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>>>>> "Timothy" == Timothy J Luoma <luomat+Lists/WU-Ftp@luomat.peak.org> writes:

Timothy> Say I wanted to setup a joint http and ftp archive (ie one which could be  
Timothy> accessed by either ftp or http and get at the same files, using apache and  
Timothy> wu-ftp).

Timothy> 1) anything to be aware of as far as security, unexpected 'gotchas', etc?

If they can upload files, you *must* make sure that "AllowOverride",
"Symlinks", "Exec" and "ExecCGI" are all disabled within any area to
which they can write.  Especially if they have a non-chrooted upload,
that means the entire filesystem basically.  What you want to prevent
is an upload of a shellscript that can get triggered by either an SSI
or CGI.

And that's just the first thing that comes to mind.  I'd say this
smells dangerous, but I may just be overly paranoid (from past
experience, I'd say I'm not :-).

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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Duncan Sterling wrote:

 >I've just installed Beta 16 on a Sun Ultra 2 running Solaris 2.6.
 >
 >Having successfully gone through the process of setting up restricted
 >guest FTP on a Sun server running Solaris 2.5.1, I had thought doing the
 >same under 2.6 would be easy, since they are (so far) binary compatible,
 >etc. Permissions, directory structures, etc are all correct and in place.

I'm using the statically linked ls from 
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/src/ftpd-ls.tar.gz with no problems here.  We're
using the latest NEWVIRT patched release, which I believe is beta-15, and
the lot was compiled with gcc 2.8.0.

HTH,

Jason Spears


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Hi
	I'm having problems configuring wu-ftpd 2.4.  Real users have no
problem getting access, but when a guest user trys to login the message
"can't set guest id " appears, what causes this ?
					Thanks
			
						Bruce

From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Fri May  1 08:18:33 1998
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You need to upgrade to the latest beta for security and stability
reasons.  The info, and a guest howto and FAQ, are below.

   -- Michael

On Fri, 1 May 1998, Bruce Ebbett, ISS wrote:

> 	I'm having problems configuring wu-ftpd 2.4.  Real users have no
> problem getting access, but when a guest user trys to login the message
> "can't set guest id " appears, what causes this ?

This is the location for the latest wu-ftpd.  You can't see the
directory contents, but get the file anyway.  It's there.

ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16.tar.Z

wu-ftpd FAQ:  http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
              OR
              send mail to wu-ftpd-faq@pizza.hvu.nl
              with a subject line: send faq

guest howto:  ftp://ftp.fni.com/pub/wu-ftpd/guest-howto
              OR
              send mail to "guesthowto@fni.com"
              (immediate autoresponder; subject does not matter)

wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

There are additional security references in the above docs.


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On 1 May 1998, Randal Schwartz wrote:

> >>>>> "Timothy" == Timothy J Luoma <luomat+Lists/WU-Ftp@luomat.peak.org> writes:
> 
> Timothy> Say I wanted to setup a joint http and ftp archive (ie one which could be  
> Timothy> accessed by either ftp or http and get at the same files, using apache and  
> Timothy> wu-ftp).
> 
> Timothy> 1) anything to be aware of as far as security, unexpected 'gotchas', etc?
> 
> If they can upload files, you *must* make sure that "AllowOverride",
> "Symlinks", "Exec" and "ExecCGI" are all disabled within any area to
> which they can write.  Especially if they have a non-chrooted upload,
> that means the entire filesystem basically.  What you want to prevent
> is an upload of a shellscript that can get triggered by either an SSI
> or CGI.

Take that one step further and use an AllowOverride none so it won't even
try reading htaccess files unless you really need to let some features be
set using htaccess files.


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How are you?

I have a question for wu-ftpd.

I installed wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16, but the anonymous account does not
work:

$ ftp 194.133.124.19
220 slnews FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1) Thu Apr 30
23:32:21 GMT 1998) ready.
Name (194.133.124.19:cecilolu): anonymous
530 User anonymous access denied.
Login failed.
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.

But the regular account works fine:

$ ftp 194.133.124.19
Connected to 194.133.124.19.
220 slnews FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1) Thu Apr 30
23:32:21 GMT 1998) ready.
Name (194.133.124.19:cecilolu): cecilolu
331 Password required for cecilolu.
Password:
230 User cecilolu logged in.
ftp>

Could anyone  help on this ?

Thank you very much.

cecil


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I have a problem.

I installed the wu-ftpd-2.4 for Solaris 2.4

When modified the ftphosts by deny the access for anonymous account,
example:
	deny anonymous academ01.mty.itesm.mx

The others hosts can't used the anonymous connections too.

What is the problem? 

Because when I used the normal account in the
ftphosts example:

	deny master academ01.mty.itesm.mx

Only academ01 can't connect at ftp using the master account and the other
hosts can do.
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     hello all,
     
     Could someone please tell me if the wu-ftpd Version 
     wu-2.4.2-academ[beta-16] is supported the year 2K 
     compliance?
     
     Thanks,
     /PC

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Hi all.  I overheard someone talking about solaris 2.7 including wu-ftpd.
Does anyone know anything about this?

Dave



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CHANTHP@cliffy.polaroid.com (PHETPHONE D CHANTHAVONG) asks:

>      Could someone please tell me if the wu-ftpd Version 
>      wu-2.4.2-academ[beta-16] is supported the year 2K 
>      compliance?

The only Y2k issue that I have discovered in any recent wu-ftpd
version is one statement in ftpcmd.y.  Briefly:
    reply(213, "19%02d ...", t->tm_year, ...);
needs to be changed to something like
    reply(213, "%04d ...", t->tm_year + 1900, ...);

See my write-up of this in the current FAQ for more detail.

-- 
Roger Wells
Sr. Project Engineer, Network Usage Measurement
rwells@illuminetSS7.com

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	At some point awhile ago I saw a short 40-50 line script which created
and setup wu-ftp directories for chrooted groups. Does anyone know where I can
get this script from, I seem to have lost my copy and need it again rather
urgently.

				Richard

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I was gonna post it, but it's long .. Get it from the list archive.
Here's the message header info ...

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On Mon, 4 May 1998 rpeiper@supernews.com wrote:

> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: rpeiper@supernews.com
> To: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
> Subject: WU-FTPD Setup script
> 
> 
> 	At some point awhile ago I saw a short 40-50 line script which created
> and setup wu-ftp directories for chrooted groups. Does anyone know where I can
> get this script from, I seem to have lost my copy and need it again rather
> urgently.
> 
> 				Richard
> 
> ==========================================================
> Richard Peiper		Supernews Inc.
> Work: 706 208 0691	Director, Web Hosting Development
> GO BRAVES!		Email: rpeiper@supernews.com
> GO CAPS!		http://www2.supernews.com
> ==========================================================
> 


----

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On Mon, 4 May 1998 rpeiper@supernews.com wrote:

> 
> 	At some point awhile ago I saw a short 40-50 line script which created
> and setup wu-ftp directories for chrooted groups. Does anyone know where I can
> get this script from, I seem to have lost my copy and need it again rather
> urgently.

I don't know where you saw yours, but this is what we use here:

---
#! /bin/csh -f
 
# A script that will create a new ftp user, create their home
directory,
# put all the right files (/dev/*, /etc/*, etc) in it, chown it,
etc
 
# Where to put all the home directories?
set homeroot = "/home" 
 
# What program to use to create the user?
set useradd = "/usr/sbin/useradd" 
 
# What shell should we use?
set shell = "/bin/true" 
 
# Where's the skeleton tar file?
set skeltar = "/usr/local/lib/skel.tar"
 
# What temporary file can I use?
set tempfile = "/tmp/create_user.$$"
 
# What group should the new user belong to?
set group = 666
 
if ($#argv != 2) then
        echo "Usage: $0 <username> <encryptedpassword>"
        exit 
endif
 
set user = $1
set pass = '$2'

set homedir = "/home/$user"
 
set homedir_inpass = "$homedir/./."
 
$useradd -d $homedir_inpass -s $shell -g $group $user
 
mkdir $homedir
cd $homedir
tar xfp $skeltar
chown  $user $homedir
 
# The home directory is ready.
# Now, we need to change the password for $user
# We'll be using ed because ed can make the changes in place.
# First, create the input file for ed
# 
# Command one: Go to the line containing our user
/usr/bin/echo "/^$user\072" >! $tempfile
# Command two: Change the password
/usr/bin/printf 's/:[^:]*/:%s/\n' '$pass' >> $tempfile
# OK, go back into command mode (.), write the file (w), and quit (q)
/usr/bin/printf ".\nw\nq\n" >> $tempfile
 
# OK, hit the shadow file with ed
/usr/bin/ed /etc/shadow < $tempfile
 
/bin/rm $tempfile

---



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	I am having a problem with passive LS on my quest FTP machine. I have
checked the FAQ. ~ftp/dev/tcp has 666 permissions, everything else works fine,
and I can't find any other hints on this problem. 

	I am using wu-ftp 2.4 on Solaris 2.51

				Richard

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What is the problem? Is the ftp server behind a firewall of some sort? Are
they timeouts? Refuses? Or other errors?

-mike

On Mon, 4 May 1998 rpeiper@supernews.com wrote:

> 
> 	I am having a problem with passive LS on my quest FTP machine. I have
> checked the FAQ. ~ftp/dev/tcp has 666 permissions, everything else works fine,
> and I can't find any other hints on this problem. 
> 
> 	I am using wu-ftp 2.4 on Solaris 2.51
> 
> 				Richard
> 
> ==========================================================
> Richard Peiper		Supernews Inc.
> Work: 706 208 0691	Director, Web Hosting Development
> GO BRAVES!		Email: rpeiper@supernews.com
> GO CAPS!		http://www2.supernews.com
> ==========================================================
> 


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Ftp auto conversions not working.

The ftpconversions is populated :
 <<...>> 
The ftpaccess file has :
compress	yes	all
tar		yes	all

Tar and compress are in ther chrooted bin.
Ckconfig verifies the correct paths to config files.

When i get a .Z file minus the extension i get file not found.
Trussing my ftpd proccess of the get just shows error code of
the file not found. It doesn't look like the compress is called at all.

Would anybody know the DILEO on this ?

I am running SunOS 5.5.1 and Academ's wu-ftp-2.4.2-beta-15

Joseph Lisowski
Fidelity Investments	Network Services



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On Mon, 4 May 1998, Lisowski, Joseph wrote:

> Ftp auto conversions not working.
> 
> The ftpconversions is populated :
>  <<...>> 
> The ftpaccess file has :
> compress	yes	all
> tar		yes	all
> 
> Tar and compress are in ther chrooted bin.
> Ckconfig verifies the correct paths to config files.
> 
> When i get a .Z file minus the extension i get file not found.
> Trussing my ftpd proccess of the get just shows error code of
> the file not found. It doesn't look like the compress is called at all.
> 
> Would anybody know the DILEO on this ?
> 
> I am running SunOS 5.5.1 and Academ's wu-ftp-2.4.2-beta-15

I had problems like this in my chroot'd guestgroup environment.  cp'ing
the ftpconversions file the the chroot'd etc directory fixed it for me.

----

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1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
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I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
connects, but nothing appears.

I've run ckconfig, checked everything against another server, and still
cannot figure out what is wrong. Any hints would be most appreciated.

-David


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First upgrade to the latest version (below) for security and stability
reasons. Then check out the FAQ and guest howto to get 'ls' running.

   -- Michael

On Mon, 4 May 1998, David C. Kovar wrote:

> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
> normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
> with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
> connects, but nothing appears.

This is the location for the latest wu-ftpd.  You can't see the
directory contents, but get the file anyway.  It's there.

ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16.tar.Z

wu-ftpd FAQ:  http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
              OR
              send mail to wu-ftpd-faq@pizza.hvu.nl
              with a subject line: send faq

guest howto:  ftp://ftp.fni.com/pub/wu-ftpd/guest-howto
              OR
              send mail to "guesthowto@fni.com"
              (immediate autoresponder; subject does not matter)

wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

There are additional security references in the above docs.


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chmod 666 ~ftp/dev/tcp

this is documented in: 

http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html

								mqh
David C. Kovar wrote:
> 
> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
> normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
> with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
> connects, but nothing appears.
> 
> I've run ckconfig, checked everything against another server, and still
> cannot figure out what is wrong. Any hints would be most appreciated.
> 
> -David

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Will do, thanks. ls *does* work, just not from Netscape. But I'll upgrade
first and then worry about it.

-David

At 08:18 PM 5/4/98 -0500, Michael Brennen wrote:
>
>First upgrade to the latest version (below) for security and stability
>reasons. Then check out the FAQ and guest howto to get 'ls' running.
>
>   -- Michael
>
>On Mon, 4 May 1998, David C. Kovar wrote:
>
>> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
>> normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
>> with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
>> connects, but nothing appears.
>
>This is the location for the latest wu-ftpd.  You can't see the
>directory contents, but get the file anyway.  It's there.
>
>ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16.tar.Z
>
>wu-ftpd FAQ:  http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
>              OR
>              send mail to wu-ftpd-faq@pizza.hvu.nl
>              with a subject line: send faq
>
>guest howto:  ftp://ftp.fni.com/pub/wu-ftpd/guest-howto
>              OR
>              send mail to "guesthowto@fni.com"
>              (immediate autoresponder; subject does not matter)
>
>wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
>wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/
>
>There are additional security references in the above docs.
> 

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It already is mode 666, alas. 'ls' works fine if you use a Unix command
line ftp. It only seems to fail when accessing the site via Netscape.

Ah! The problem is that Netscape and ws_ftp use the "dir" command, and not
the ls command. So it is the "dir" command that is failing. ls, as I said,
is working fine.

-David

At 11:49 PM 5/4/98 -0400, mike hiller wrote:
>chmod 666 ~ftp/dev/tcp
>
>this is documented in: 
>
>http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
>
>								mqh
>David C. Kovar wrote:
>> 
>> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
>> normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
>> with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
>> connects, but nothing appears.
>> 
>> I've run ckconfig, checked everything against another server, and still
>> cannot figure out what is wrong. Any hints would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> -David
> 

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> 
> It already is mode 666, alas. 'ls' works fine if you use a Unix command
> line ftp. It only seems to fail when accessing the site via Netscape.
> 
> Ah! The problem is that Netscape and ws_ftp use the "dir" command, and not
> the ls command. So it is the "dir" command that is failing. ls, as I said,
> is working fine.
> 
> -David
>
	I think I ran into this once myself.  It was a problem with the
~ftp/dev/tcp or ~ftp/dev/zero file being incorrect.  Check them CAREFULLY
and see if that helps.

			Tuc/TTSG
 
> At 11:49 PM 5/4/98 -0400, mike hiller wrote:
> >chmod 666 ~ftp/dev/tcp
> >
> >this is documented in: 
> >
> >http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
> >
> >								mqh
> >David C. Kovar wrote:
> >> 
> >> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Solaris 2.6 machine. If I connect to it from a
> >> normal Unix client, everything works as expected. However, if I connect
> >> with Netscape 4.X or WS-FTP under NT, no files or directories show up. It
> >> connects, but nothing appears.
> >> 
> >> I've run ckconfig, checked everything against another server, and still
> >> cannot figure out what is wrong. Any hints would be most appreciated.
> >> 
> >> -David
> > 
> 


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I am trying to build wu-ftpd-2.4 on a Sparc running Solaris 2.6 with
gcc-2.8.1.  When I try the build it fails with:
Making ftpd.
gcc -g -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support   -c ftpd.c -o ftpd.o
ftpd.c: In function `statcmd':
ftpd.c:1972: `typenames' undeclared (first use in this function)
ftpd.c:1972: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ftpd.c:1972: for each function it appears in.)
ftpd.c:1974: `formnames' undeclared (first use in this function)
ftpd.c:1982: `strunames' undeclared (first use in this function)
ftpd.c:1982: `modenames' undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [ftpd.o] Error 1


I remember building this a while ago under Solaris 2.5.1 with an older
gcc, but I do not remember if I had to do anything special.  What am I
doing wrong, or what do I need to do to build this?  Thanks for any help.

Rick



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Got it

thnx
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Gregory A Lundberg wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
> 
> > One of my friends starts setting up freebsd with wu-ftp 2.4.2(Beta 16)
> > and having a problem on date. It seems that when he create an account
> > with ftpsh and a user uses "ls -al", it shows GMT rather than JST, which
> > is a local time.
> > 
> > Any suggestion how to fix the problem?
> 
> Setting the TZ environment variable should fix it.
> 
> ----
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I'm trying to build wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16 with gcc-2.8.1on HP-UX b.10.20 A
  with
build CC=gcc hpx. Can anybody point me to what is wrong.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Andre


$ build CC=gcc hpx
make args are :
make opts are :  CC=gcc

Linking Makefiles.

Making support library.
gcc -O   -c fnmatch.c
gcc -O   -c strcasestr.c
gcc -O   -c strsep.c
gcc -O   -c getusershell.c
gcc -O   -c snprintf.c
rm -f libsupport.a
ar cq libsupport.a fnmatch.o strcasestr.o strsep.o getusershell.o
snprintf.o
touch libsupport.a

Making ftpd.
gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support    -c ftpd.c -o ftpd.o
*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
make: *** [ftpd.o] Error 1

Making ftpcount.
gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ftpcount ftpcount.c
vers.
o ../support/libsupport.a
gcc: vers.o: No such file or directory
*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
make: *** [ftpcount] Error 1

Making ftpshut.
gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ftpshut ftpshut.c
vers.o
../support/libsupport.a
gcc: vers.o: No such file or directory
*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
make: *** [ftpshut] Error 1

Making ckconfig.
gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ckconfig ckconfig.c
*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
make: *** [ckconfig] Error 1

Links to executables are in bin directory:
size:  bin/ftpd:  cannot open
size:  bin/ftpcount:  cannot open
size:  bin/ftpshut:  cannot open
size:  bin/ftpwho:  cannot open
size:  bin/ckconfig:  cannot open
Done






From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May  6 09:21:04 1998
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I asked this before but figured I'd give one last try before giving up. 

FTPWho doesn't display any information about where the connections are from
on Digital Unix 4.0d using enhanced security. The processes also don't
display the information (probably why FTPWho doesn't). I do have the
SETPROCTITLE option enabled in the configuration files.

Any hints where I should go?

Thx,
/Geoff

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hey there very nice people of this list.. (how can u tell I need something
>:)  )

I'm running linux 2.0.23, and decided to move to wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ-beta16.
I had a totally functional ftpd with no user problems (using wu-ftpd
2.4.2). with guest, real and anon  accounts.
I compiled, made sure all the pathnames were correct, installed it, didn't
change any config files
(except -a in inetd.conf) but when I goto connect to it locally, I get a
421 Service not avaliable. Remotely, I get socket connected.... but it just
sits there. 
Am I missing something here, or does anyone know what to do?  I've tried
several things with no success.

Thankx in advance
				Mike

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I'm guessing the answer is no, but I'm hoping I might be wrong.

Is there an argument I can give to ftpd to tell it to log to  
/usr/local/logs/hostname/ rather than /usr/local/logs/ ?

It appears to be hardcoded in.

TjL


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>I'm running linux 2.0.23, and decided to move to wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ-beta16.
>I had a totally functional ftpd with no user problems (using wu-ftpd
>2.4.2). with guest, real and anon  accounts.
>I compiled, made sure all the pathnames were correct, installed it, didn't
>change any config files
>(except -a in inetd.conf) but when I goto connect to it locally, I get a
>421 Service not avaliable. Remotely, I get socket connected.... but it just
>sits there. 

     That's probably the single-command-line bug.  Get the following patch:

ftp://achurch.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd/b16-fix.patch

and apply it to clean b16 sources, recompile, and you should be fine.  Or
you may want to look at:

ftp://achurch.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd/b16plus.patch

which adds quite a bit more functionality to beta 16.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May  6 21:55:08 1998
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The clue is here:

gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ftpshut ftpshut.c
    ^^^

The -A option in gcc is an assertion which is looking for more options, but
in the HP-UX C compiler -Aa is the switch for ansi source. It looks like
the Makefile is "tuned" for the HP-UX compilers.

Try replacing the -Aa in the Makefile with -ansi which is the ansi switch
for gcc.

--John

At 16:32 -0400 5/5/98, LalondeAE@stentor.ca wrote:
>I'm trying to build wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16 with gcc-2.8.1on HP-UX b.10.20 A
>  with
>build CC=gcc hpx. Can anybody point me to what is wrong.
>
>Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks, in advance, for your help.
>
>Andre
>
>
>$ build CC=gcc hpx
>make args are :
>make opts are :  CC=gcc
>
>Linking Makefiles.
>
>Making support library.
>gcc -O   -c fnmatch.c
>gcc -O   -c strcasestr.c
>gcc -O   -c strsep.c
>gcc -O   -c getusershell.c
>gcc -O   -c snprintf.c
>rm -f libsupport.a
>ar cq libsupport.a fnmatch.o strcasestr.o strsep.o getusershell.o
>snprintf.o
>touch libsupport.a
>
>Making ftpd.
>gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support    -c ftpd.c -o ftpd.o
>*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
>make: *** [ftpd.o] Error 1
>
>Making ftpcount.
>gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ftpcount ftpcount.c
>vers.
>o ../support/libsupport.a
>gcc: vers.o: No such file or directory
>*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
>make: *** [ftpcount] Error 1
>
>Making ftpshut.
>gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ftpshut ftpshut.c
>vers.o
>../support/libsupport.a
>gcc: vers.o: No such file or directory
>*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
>make: *** [ftpshut] Error 1
>
>Making ckconfig.
>gcc -Aa -Dunix -D_HPUX_SOURCE -O -I.. -I../support  -o ckconfig ckconfig.c
>*Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert'
>make: *** [ckconfig] Error 1
>
>Links to executables are in bin directory:
>size:  bin/ftpd:  cannot open
>size:  bin/ftpcount:  cannot open
>size:  bin/ftpshut:  cannot open
>size:  bin/ftpwho:  cannot open
>size:  bin/ckconfig:  cannot open
>Done




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> Is there an argument I can give to ftpd to tell it to log to  
> /usr/local/logs/hostname/ rather than /usr/local/logs/ ?

Dude, you got the source, man.  Just download it and take a quick look at
the config file, and rebuild it.

Dave



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> >I'm running linux 2.0.23, and decided to move to wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ-beta16.

[...]

>      That's probably the single-command-line bug.  Get the following patch:

Additionally, upgrade to at least 2.0.33, as there were several kernel
security exploits fixed in later versions, as well as better memory
management, among a ton of other fixes/features.

2.0.34 will be out any day now..

Dave



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>> >I'm running linux 2.0.23, and decided to move to wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ-beta16.
[...]
>Additionally, upgrade to at least 2.0.33, as there were several kernel
>security exploits fixed in later versions, as well as better memory
>management, among a ton of other fixes/features.

     Just for the record, 2.0.24 and later aren't as stable as 2.0.23 in my
experience; compare 12-24 hours uptime before a crash under the former to
months under the latter.  I'm waiting for 2.0.34, but I don't hold high
hopes...

     This is getting off-topic, so no more replies to the list, please.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

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hi everybody,

just wondering if wu-ftpd has the ability to limit users to go to few
directories (different file systems) without allowing them to go
outside those specific dir.

Example:

/usr1
  |- report1
  |- report2 .... reportn
/usr2
  |- report1
  |- report2 .... reportn


user abcd should only be able to go to /usr1/report1 and
/usr2/report1, but he should not be able to go to /usr1/report2 or
/usr2/report2 or to any other directories in the system i.e. /etc,
/tmp, /






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Hi!!!

Can I have virtual users in wu-ftpd?

and 

where can I obtained information about that?





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We're running some RS/6000 F50's with AIX 4.2, and I'm trying to get
guestgroups to work.

I've followed the details in the guestgroup how-to to the letter, both the
way as written as well as using GID:UID pairs that seem to mirror the way
AIX does things (ie by the FAQ, bin/ls should be chown'ed to root:bin, but
under AIX it would appear to be bin:bin.) I've done that throughout for all
directories and files in my test guestgroup user's account.

Ckconfig doesn't show any problems, and all files exist that need to be
there for wu-ftpd to work . Regardless of what I try, I never see a home
directory of '/'.  Also, it never uses the ls in the ftptest user's
directory.  What am I missing?

PLEASE RESPOND TO Matthew_Emmerton@agorainc.net.

[Inetd.conf entry]
ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/bin/ftpd          -a -i -o -L
-n

[Snippets of /etc/ftpaccess]

# Local and Remote class definitions (allow real and "guest" users)
class   local   real,guest
class   remote  real,guest
# Log information
log commands real,guest
# ensure guest users can't do anything special
# real users will still be able to do it all
delete          no      guest   # delete permission?
overwrite       no      guest   # overwrite permission?
renam           no      guest   # rename permission?
chmod           no      guest   # chmod permission?
umask           no      guest   # umask permission?

# keep "guest" users from having funky filenames
path-filter  guest      /etc/pathmsg  ^[-A-Za-z0-9_\.]*$  ^\.  ^-

# last but not least, specify which GID names are the "guests" guestgroup
ftpuser

[/etc/passwd]
ftptest:!:206:201:FTP Test User (Contact Matthew
Emmerton):/home/ftptest/./:/usr/bin/ftpon

[/etc/group]
ftpuser:!:201:ftptest





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As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.

The first resulting version, 2.6.0, has been released.
It is on ftp://ftp.croftj.net/usr/bero/wu-ftpd, and should appear on
sunsite.unc.edu, tsx-11.mit.edu and their mirrors shortly.

Major changes in 2.6.0 (relative to wu-ftpd-academ 2.4.2b16):
+ Uses Autoconf
+ Mail-to-admin on anonymous uploads added
+ Virtual FTP support improved
+ "include" ftpaccess directive added
+ UIDs/GIDs in "upload" directive can be specified by number
+ PORT argument checking can be disabled (configure --disable-portcheck)
+ Specific E-mail addresses for anonymous password can be refused
* Single-argument bug (e.g. "wu.ftpd -a") fixed
* Process title now displays "ftpd:" instead of "sendmail:" and suppresses
     any trailing newline
* Some code cleanup (unnecessary #include's removed)
* Documentation updated

We have also introduced a new version number scheme, based on the one used
for the Linux kernel.
Versions with an even minor number (2.6.x, 2.8.x, ...) are
considered stable. There will not be any major features added in them,
only bugs fixed.
Versions with odd minor numbers (2.7.x, 2.9.x, ...) are experimental
versions, primarily there to test new features and major changes. If you
need a reliable ftp server, don't use them unless you absolutely need one
of their features.

One of our future goals is to release bug fixes as soon as they're found,
and to permit access to the current development tree using anonymous CVS.
(HINT: We're still looking for a server to host this. If you have one, let
us know...)

If you find any bugs in the 2.6.0 release, contact
wu-ftpd-bugs@linux.net.eu.org.

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Hello,

I posted this a few weeks back buut didn't get any reply to it except from
someone who would like to use the same thing. :-)

I'd like to use the same username on different virtual servers.

Like:

user1, ftp.domain1.com: /home/domain1/user1
user1, ftp.domain2.com: /home/domain2/user1
user1, ftp.domain3.com: /home/domain3/user1
user2, ftp.domain1.com: /home/domain1/user2
user2, ftp.domain3.com: /home/domain3/user3

The advantage of this would be, that I could assign 1 login name to some users
and the host they connect to makes the difference about what directory they
start in.

Up to now those users have to deal with many different login names and
passwords. It's kinda ugly. :-(

Any ideas? Maybe it's possible with the latest releaso of 2.6.0? :-)

Harry


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Gentlemen,
 Was curious if Pedro Melo's Passive Port Patch made it into your
version. I know it is being used by a number of us who have to
keep our servers behind firewalls. Didnt see it in your list but since 
it has been on Stan's list for awhile was hoping it might be in there?
By the way, what did happen to Stan?
	Roger Hanke

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [SMTP:bero@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de]
>Sent:	Thursday, May 07, 1998 4:03 PM
>To:	wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
>Cc:	achurch@dragonfire.net
>Subject:	wu-ftpd 2.6.0 released
>
>As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
>Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
>bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.
>
>The first resulting version, 2.6.0, has been released.
>It is on ftp://ftp.croftj.net/usr/bero/wu-ftpd, and should appear on
>sunsite.unc.edu, tsx-11.mit.edu and their mirrors shortly.
>
>Major changes in 2.6.0 (relative to wu-ftpd-academ 2.4.2b16):
>+ Uses Autoconf
>+ Mail-to-admin on anonymous uploads added
>+ Virtual FTP support improved
>+ "include" ftpaccess directive added
>+ UIDs/GIDs in "upload" directive can be specified by number
>+ PORT argument checking can be disabled (configure --disable-portcheck)
>+ Specific E-mail addresses for anonymous password can be refused
>* Single-argument bug (e.g. "wu.ftpd -a") fixed
>* Process title now displays "ftpd:" instead of "sendmail:" and suppresses
>     any trailing newline
>* Some code cleanup (unnecessary #include's removed)
>* Documentation updated
>
>We have also introduced a new version number scheme, based on the one used
>for the Linux kernel.
>Versions with an even minor number (2.6.x, 2.8.x, ...) are
>considered stable. There will not be any major features added in them,
>only bugs fixed.
>Versions with odd minor numbers (2.7.x, 2.9.x, ...) are experimental
>versions, primarily there to test new features and major changes. If you
>need a reliable ftp server, don't use them unless you absolutely need one
>of their features.
>
>One of our future goals is to release bug fixes as soon as they're found,
>and to permit access to the current development tree using anonymous CVS.
>(HINT: We're still looking for a server to host this. If you have one, let
>us know...)
>
>If you find any bugs in the 2.6.0 release, contact
>wu-ftpd-bugs@linux.net.eu.org.
>
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>Anyone sending unwanted advertising e-mail to this address will be charged
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> Was curious if Pedro Melo's Passive Port Patch made it into your
>version. I know it is being used by a number of us who have to
>keep our servers behind firewalls. Didnt see it in your list but since 
>it has been on Stan's list for awhile was hoping it might be in there?

     If it was in b16, it's in 2.6.0, else not.  If not, could you send it
to me?

>By the way, what did happen to Stan?

     I actually talked to him a little while back, and for all practical
purposes, he said his intention was to let wu-ftpd stagnate.  (Sorry, Stan,
but that's how it came across.)

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

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Andy,
 Here is Pedro's last passive mode patch 
I saw posted to the mailing list. This is the version
he had submitted to the official bug list.
Since then most people have been just making these same
changes below by hand to each new beta version
from what I could tell.
So as far as I knew this was still not in any beta version
including B16.

When you say the new 2.6.0 includes improved virtual
server support, I hope that means you have incorporated
Kent Landfields new virtual support that he had been adding
to each beta version for many of us?
	Thanx,
	Roger Hanke

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Pedro Melo [SMTP:melo@co.telenet.pt]
>Sent:	Wednesday, March 26, 1997 7:42 AM
>To:	wu-ftpd-bugs@academ.com
>Cc:	rah@lynxhub; wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
>Subject:	Patch for passive mode in Beta13
>
>Hi!
>
>Some time ago I made a patch for beta12 that allows you to restrict the
>port ranges used by passive mode ftp. 
>
>This is helpfull for people who dont want to open just a part of their port
>space in their firewall.
>
>So far, the pacth is compile time only. You cannot specify in the  config
>file the port range to use. You have to change the values of PASSIVE_BASE
>and PASSIVE_SPAN in the patched ftpd.c and recompile... For ex, if you want
>to open ports 4000 to 5000, use PASSIVE_BASE 4000 and PASSIVE_SPAN 1000
>
>Apply to the ftpd.c in the src directory...
>
>I've been working with this patch for a coupple of month now, no problems.
>
>*** ftpd.c.orig	Fri Mar 21 02:15:09 1997
>--- ftpd.c	Fri Mar 21 02:19:00 1997
>***************
>*** 394,399 ****
>--- 394,401 ----
>      struct sockaddr_in *virtual_ptr;
>  #endif
>  
>+     srandom(getpid());
>+ 
>  #ifdef AUX
>      setcompat(COMPAT_POSIX | COMPAT_BSDSETUGID);
>  #endif
>***************
>*** 3246,3251 ****
>--- 3248,3256 ----
>   * response by Jon Postel in a telephone conversation with Rick Adams on
>25
>   * Jan 89. */
>  
>+ #define PASSIVE_BASE 3000
>+ #define PASSIVE_SPAN 500
>+ 
>  void
>  #ifdef __STDC__
>  passive(void)
>***************
>*** 3253,3259 ****
>  passive()
>  #endif
>  {
>!     int len;
>      register char *p,
>       *a;
>  
>--- 3258,3264 ----
>  passive()
>  #endif
>  {
>!     int len, bind_error;
>      register char *p,
>       *a;
>  
>***************
>*** 3268,3281 ****
>          return;
>      }
>      pasv_addr = ctrl_addr;
>!     pasv_addr.sin_port = 0;
>      delay_signaling(); /* we can't allow any signals while euid==0: kinch
>*/
>      (void) seteuid((uid_t) 0);		/* XXX: not needed if >
>1024 */
>!     if (bind(pdata, (struct sockaddr *) &pasv_addr, sizeof(pasv_addr)) <
>0) {
>!         (void) seteuid((uid_t) pw->pw_uid);
>!         enable_signaling(); /* we can allow signals once again: kinch */
>!         goto pasv_error;
>      }
>      (void) seteuid((uid_t) pw->pw_uid);
>      enable_signaling(); /* we can allow signals once again: kinch */
>      len = sizeof(pasv_addr);
>--- 3273,3293 ----
>          return;
>      }
>      pasv_addr = ctrl_addr;
>! 
>      delay_signaling(); /* we can't allow any signals while euid==0: kinch
>*/
>      (void) seteuid((uid_t) 0);		/* XXX: not needed if >
>1024 */
>!     do {
>!         pasv_addr.sin_port = PASSIVE_BASE + random() % PASSIVE_SPAN;
>!         if (log_commands) syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "PASV trying %d",
>pasv_addr.sin_port);
>!         bind_error = bind(pdata, (struct sockaddr *) &pasv_addr,
>sizeof(pasv_addr));
>!     } while(errno==EADDRINUSE);
>!     if (bind_error < 0) {
>!               (void) seteuid((uid_t) pw->pw_uid);
>!               enable_signaling(); /* we can allow signals once again:
>kinch */
>!               goto pasv_error;
>      }
>+     if (log_commands) syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "PASV got %d",
>pasv_addr.sin_port);
>+ 
>      (void) seteuid((uid_t) pw->pw_uid);
>      enable_signaling(); /* we can allow signals once again: kinch */
>      len = sizeof(pasv_addr);
>--
>************** Pedro Melo (melo@co.telenet.pt) BOFH ******************
>*   TELENET, Servicos de Telecomunicacoes, SA - Tel +351 1 3139190   *
>* finger melo@finger.co.telenet.pt or search key servers for PGP key *
>*           It's management's job to support the geniuses,           *
>*                      not to tell them what to do                   *
>**********************************************************************
>
>

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It is not very elegant, but it works for me.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions would be welcome.
Note that the script assumes a certain configuration for the install that 
requires tweaking config.h paths  for ftpconversions, ftpaccess, ftpusers, 
ftphosts, and ftpgroups. It also installs all the binaries in ~/ftp/bin and ls 
in ~/ftp/bin/ftp-exec.  This also requires some config.h path tweaking.
This script is provided without warranties or representations of any kind and 
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> Here is Pedro's last passive mode patch 
>I saw posted to the mailing list. This is the version
>he had submitted to the official bug list.

     Thanks; this (or something much like it) should appear in version
2.6.1.

>When you say the new 2.6.0 includes improved virtual
>server support, I hope that means you have incorporated
>Kent Landfields new virtual support that he had been adding
>to each beta version for many of us?

     No; however, the virtual FTP support in 2.6.0 accomplishes the same
goals with more flexibility and easier transitions from existing setups.
(In fact, it's just my include-virtual patch for 2.4.2b16.)

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
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> 
> As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
> Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
> bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.
> 
> The first resulting version, 2.6.0, has been released.
> It is on ftp://ftp.croftj.net/usr/bero/wu-ftpd, and should appear on
> sunsite.unc.edu, tsx-11.mit.edu and their mirrors shortly.
> 
> Major changes in 2.6.0 (relative to wu-ftpd-academ 2.4.2b16):
> + Uses Autoconf
> + Mail-to-admin on anonymous uploads added
> + Virtual FTP support improved
> + "include" ftpaccess directive added
> + UIDs/GIDs in "upload" directive can be specified by number
> + PORT argument checking can be disabled (configure --disable-portcheck)
> + Specific E-mail addresses for anonymous password can be refused
> * Single-argument bug (e.g. "wu.ftpd -a") fixed
> * Process title now displays "ftpd:" instead of "sendmail:" and suppresses
>      any trailing newline
> * Some code cleanup (unnecessary #include's removed)
> * Documentation updated
> 
> We have also introduced a new version number scheme, based on the one used
> for the Linux kernel.
> Versions with an even minor number (2.6.x, 2.8.x, ...) are
> considered stable. There will not be any major features added in them,
> only bugs fixed.
> Versions with odd minor numbers (2.7.x, 2.9.x, ...) are experimental
> versions, primarily there to test new features and major changes. If you
> need a reliable ftp server, don't use them unless you absolutely need one
> of their features.
> 
> One of our future goals is to release bug fixes as soon as they're found,
> and to permit access to the current development tree using anonymous CVS.
> (HINT: We're still looking for a server to host this. If you have one, let
> us know...)
> 
> If you find any bugs in the 2.6.0 release, contact
> wu-ftpd-bugs@linux.net.eu.org.

Bugs it is compiling for BSDI 3.1.

I have released a working package for BSDI 3.1 but
check on ftp.nl2k.ab.ca/pub/Unix and pick up the copy I have
and call me for the necessary modifications.

Also, and BSD Unix who is having Out-of-the-box problems can grab
the above package and see how I compile wu-ftpd 2.6.0
> 
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On Thu, 7 May 1998, The Doctor wrote:

> Bugs it is compiling for BSDI 3.1.
> 
> I have released a working package for BSDI 3.1 but
> check on ftp.nl2k.ab.ca/pub/Unix and pick up the copy I have
> and call me for the necessary modifications.

Please send us a diff (diff -urN original-copy modified-copy >patch.diff).

LLaP
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     >We're running some RS/6000 F50's with AIX 4.2, and I'm trying to get 
     >guestgroups to work
     
     Matthew,
     
     I'm not quite sur of what your question is but I' assuming that when 
     your "guests" login, they go to the root directory instead of the 
     directory that you want them to go to.  I'm using the same hardware 
     and oslevel as you and beta 15 works fine for me.  What I have found 
     out (and have never been able to overcome) is the way that the "guest" 
     user appears in the real /etc/passwd file.  If I put 
     /home/ftptest/./:/usr/bin/ftpon in the passwd file the chroot does not 
     work and they go to the real root directory.  If I simply put 
     /home/ftptest in the real passwd directory it works just fine.  Feel 
     free to contact me offline.
     
     Hope this helps....
     
     
                                
joe matusiewicz                            
national weather service       
silver spring, md 20910       
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joseph.matusiewicz@noaa.gov    
     
     
     
      
     
     
     

From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Fri May  8 10:33:12 1998
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Dear wu-ftpd crowd,

I help run a site that offers free downloads of patches
and demos for my company's games.  We often have hundreds of
people downloading, and I'd like to support 1000 simultaneous users.
The server is rather underpowered (a Pentium 200 with 64MB RAM), so I'm
interested in decreasing the resources needed to serve each user.

For http transfers, I gained a lot by switching from Apache to thttpd; see
http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~dank/fixing-overloaded-web-server.html
Is there a similar stripped-down, highly efficient, nonforking ftp
server?

I've read http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html#QA60
but the 'large site' patch for wu-ftpd still forks a new copy of ftpd
for each incoming connection.

Thanks,
Dan

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I wrote:
>Is there a similar stripped-down, highly efficient, 
>nonforking ftp server?

Of course, as soon as I posted that, the right search keys
occurred to me, and I found two:
1. Troll Ftpd; free; http://www.troll.no/freebies/ftpd.html
2. nc-ftpd; nonfree; http://www.probe.net/~mgleason/ncftpd/

- Dan

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I haven't received anything from this list in several days so I don't know if 
it's still up or if anyone will get this.  But I'll give it a try anyway.

I have a script that creates new ftp clients and have used it several times. 
 The first clients I created have no problems at all.  The last client I 
created has one problem, when he uploads a file the file is showing 0 size. 
 The upload shows that it is transferring 8 megs but once there it shows zippo 
(I can see the file just no file size).  If I download it I get 8 megs and the 
file seems to be completely intact.  Put the same file back and it shows squat 
again.  But again I can get it and see 8 megs locally.

Not sure what might be the problem.  Nothing has changed in the script, no one 
else has permissions to it.  I double checked it anyway, just to make sure (I 
have the original copy in my home directory).  I'm wondering if the client 
software might be the culprit.  Any input is appreciated.

Thanks

Jeff Kennedy
jkennedy@eiq.com

PS.	Please e-mail me directly as well as replying to the list.


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Hi,

I´m providing ftp service for a limited group. The files are usually
very big
and the transfer is done via ISDN line. The problem I have is that for
me
the transfer was successful (correct line in xferlog, download time
looks ok)
but the last part of the file doesn´t reach the partner. The syslog
(debug all)
shows "transfer complete" but also "lost connection".
Is there any hint to look on either my or the partners side ?

    Thilo


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On Thu, 7 May 1998, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:

 >As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
 >Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
 >bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.

I'm curious why the virtual ftpd support put together by Kent Landfield
hasn't been included in this release; instead you have introduced yet
another completely new way of doing this, and sites that already use
'The Landfield Method' will either have to painfully restructure their
configurations or stop using wu-ftpd.

Jason Spears


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>I'm curious why the virtual ftpd support put together by Kent Landfield
>hasn't been included in this release; instead you have introduced yet
>another completely new way of doing this, and sites that already use
>'The Landfield Method' will either have to painfully restructure their
>configurations or stop using wu-ftpd.

     First of all, wu-ftpd 2.6.0's method is not "another completely new
way" of implementing virtual server support; it's _directly_ derived from
the 2.4.2b16 virtual support.  Also, seeing as the two methods (Kent's and
ours) are not compatible, whichever one we included would have forced
people using the other method to switch.  And, to be honest, I have a
couple of problems with Kent's implementation of virtual servers
(particularly with the number of files it requires.)

     I will say that virtual server support in 2.7 is going to be improved
something along the lines of Kent's patch, alongside a partial remake of
the entire configuration scheme.  However, I'm afraid that won't be
appearing in 2.6, unless Kent wants to write a patch for it.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

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> 
> >I'm curious why the virtual ftpd support put together by Kent Landfield
> >hasn't been included in this release; instead you have introduced yet
> >another completely new way of doing this, and sites that already use
> >'The Landfield Method' will either have to painfully restructure their
> >configurations or stop using wu-ftpd.
> 
>      First of all, wu-ftpd 2.6.0's method is not "another completely new
> way" of implementing virtual server support; it's _directly_ derived from
> the 2.4.2b16 virtual support.  Also, seeing as the two methods (Kent's and
> ours) are not compatible, whichever one we included would have forced
> people using the other method to switch.  And, to be honest, I have a
> couple of problems with Kent's implementation of virtual servers
> (particularly with the number of files it requires.)
> 
>      I will say that virtual server support in 2.7 is going to be improved
> something along the lines of Kent's patch, alongside a partial remake of
> the entire configuration scheme.  However, I'm afraid that won't be
> appearing in 2.6, unless Kent wants to write a patch for it.

AFAIK, the virtual support works like a charm no problem at all.

Where are potential problems?

> 
>   --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
>     achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
>     www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.
> 


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In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.980507215330.2244A-100000@k6.bero> bero@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes:
>As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
>Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
>bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.

Andy, I am still here. The web site at academ.com is still here. Nothing I
have been doing has changed. You are welcome to maintain your own development
in this area, but please don't confuse people by having them believe that
the work I have been doing has ceased. 

You and I may disagree on how the development of wu-ftpd should progress. That
is why I have no objection to someone else doing their own off-shoot of the
work. However, your assertion that you are "taking over" because "the
maintaineers have aparently disappeared" is just plain off-base. 

My goals have been published for along time. I expect to meet those goals.
Once that is completed, it may make sense for the work to pass to someone
else. However, that type of transition should involve public discussions
here in the mailing list. I have not witnessed that with respect to your
work.

STAN BARBER


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In article <199805072122.RAA12890@Bahamut.dragonfire.net> achurch@dragonfire.net writes:
>>By the way, what did happen to Stan?
>
>     I actually talked to him a little while back, and for all practical
>purposes, he said his intention was to let wu-ftpd stagnate.  (Sorry, Stan,
>but that's how it came across.)

It's clear your insight into me is limited. Where did I say in any mail that
sent you that I intended to do anything other than following the development
plan as I had outlined it on the web site? 

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> 
> In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.980507215330.2244A-100000@k6.bero> bero@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes:
> >As the original wu-ftpd maintainers have apparently disappeared, we (Andy
> >Church, achurch@dragonfire.net and Bernhard Rosenkränzer,
> >bero@linux.net.eu.org) have taken over maintenance of wu-ftpd.
> 
> Andy, I am still here. The web site at academ.com is still here. Nothing I
> have been doing has changed. You are welcome to maintain your own development
> in this area, but please don't confuse people by having them believe that
> the work I have been doing has ceased. 
> 
> You and I may disagree on how the development of wu-ftpd should progress. That
> is why I have no objection to someone else doing their own off-shoot of the
> work. However, your assertion that you are "taking over" because "the
> maintaineers have aparently disappeared" is just plain off-base. 
> 
> My goals have been published for along time. I expect to meet those goals.
> Once that is completed, it may make sense for the work to pass to someone
> else. However, that type of transition should involve public discussions
> here in the mailing list. I have not witnessed that with respect to your
> work.
> 
> STAN BARBER
> 
> 

So what is the story?

Is wu-ftpd in the hands of 2 dissident or still with Stan?

I HATE Hijackings!!!

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> So what is the story?
> 
> Is wu-ftpd in the hands of 2 dissident or still with Stan?
> 
> I HATE Hijackings!!!

I am still doing wu-ftpd work. In fact, a beta-17 is coming out in the next
couple of days that addresses a few critical problems in beta-16. The
reason I am doing that is because Andy asked me to consider doing it and
sent me some of the patches I will be releasing in beta-17. He didn't say
anything in his mail to me about taking over wu-ftpd. The announcement in
the mailing list is the first I saw about it.

To be clear, I don't care if Andy and Bernard want to do wu-ftpd development.
However, their assertion that I have apparently abandoned the work is just
flat wrong.

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On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:

> You and I may disagree on how the development of wu-ftpd should progress. That
> is why I have no objection to someone else doing their own off-shoot of the
> work. However, your assertion that you are "taking over" because "the
> maintaineers have aparently disappeared" is just plain off-base. 

Sorry. I have to take the blame here - I made the announcement. Not
because I wanted people to move to our work or something, but because it
is what I heard from a few different sources; primarily as feedback for
the wu-ftpd based BeroFTPD I released a while before.

Andy: do we move our version to a different name?

LLaP
bero

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On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 10:51:38PM +0200, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
> 
> Andy: do we move our version to a different name?
> 
Please do. It already created much confusion.

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In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.980509224915.367A-100000@k6.bero> bero@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes:
>On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
>
>> You and I may disagree on how the development of wu-ftpd should progress. That
>> is why I have no objection to someone else doing their own off-shoot of the
>> work. However, your assertion that you are "taking over" because "the
>> maintaineers have aparently disappeared" is just plain off-base. 
>
>Sorry. I have to take the blame here - I made the announcement. Not
>because I wanted people to move to our work or something, but because it
>is what I heard from a few different sources; primarily as feedback for
>the wu-ftpd based BeroFTPD I released a while before.

What's wrong with calling it BeroFTPD? You already have started with that
name. Why not continue to use it?

Or, do you intend to continue to do that and then the version that you and Andy
can have yet a third version?
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> 
> In article <199805072345.RAA15831@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca writes:
> >Bugs it is compiling for BSDI 3.1.
> 
> Since that is one of the primary development platforms here, I would have
> already cheched this in any release I do. I don't know if Andy and Bernard
> have local copies of Solaris x86, Unixware, SCO, BSD/OS, or FreeBSD running
> to test compile (as well as limited functionality testing, which didn't catch
> the command line bug in beta-16, but is being checked in the testing
> for beta-17).
>  
> 
> 
> 

Build work better than autoconf ANY day!!  That is what I tell INN

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> 
> On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
> 
> > You and I may disagree on how the development of wu-ftpd should progress. That
> > is why I have no objection to someone else doing their own off-shoot of the
> > work. However, your assertion that you are "taking over" because "the
> > maintaineers have aparently disappeared" is just plain off-base. 
> 
> Sorry. I have to take the blame here - I made the announcement. Not
> because I wanted people to move to our work or something, but because it
> is what I heard from a few different sources; primarily as feedback for
> the wu-ftpd based BeroFTPD I released a while before.
> 
> Andy: do we move our version to a different name?
> 
> LLaP
> bero

Take a hint:  Name something based on yours and quit confusing the community
AT LARGE!

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> > Andy: do we move our version to a different name?
> > 
> Please do. It already created much confusion.

I'm sorry to cc: everyone, but I unfortunately must have missed a message
or two, and now I'm confused.

Does b15 still remain the most curent/stable?  I just don't have the
resources to do testing, and require stability.

Perhaps someone would write up a summary of the recent happenings, and who
is the maintainer?

Thanks much,
Dave Wreski



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Beta-17 will be released in less than 48 hours. It fixes the three bugs
that Andy says are the worst (plus a little more) and should prove to
be as stable (if not more so) than beta 15.

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Hi,
   I don't really care who supports the main-line version, but I'd really
prefer it if bugs like the 'sendmail' proctitle and single argument bugs
get patched and an updated version get released right away with these
fixes.. I mean it's been 5 months since these bugs have been reported, and
all first time users in that time have had to encouter the bugs, report
them to the list, and then be told the work arounds or where to find
patches.. I'm not advocating a linux style release of the day, I'd just
like to see relatively significant bugs trigger a new release.. 
(i wouldn't consider the proctitle significant, but the single argument
bug is pretty serious..)

nm

On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:

> Beta-17 will be released in less than 48 hours. It fixes the three bugs
> that Andy says are the worst (plus a little more) and should prove to
> be as stable (if not more so) than beta 15.
> 
> -- 
> Stan   | Academ Consulting Services        |internet: sob@academ.com
> Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
> Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.
> 


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I'd second that. My main desire is to pick up the pace, particularly wrt 
to getting new capabilities added and moving to autoconf. In particular, 
patches for a couple of authentication types (afs/krb5). 

It's one thing to put off adding new features till the next version if 
it's going to be 2 months away, but the current beta cycle has been going 
on for ages.

-- Nathan

On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 07:48:17PM -0500, Nikos Mouat wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>    I don't really care who supports the main-line version, but I'd really
> prefer it if bugs like the 'sendmail' proctitle and single argument bugs
> get patched and an updated version get released right away with these
> fixes.. I mean it's been 5 months since these bugs have been reported, and
> all first time users in that time have had to encouter the bugs, report
> them to the list, and then be told the work arounds or where to find
> patches.. I'm not advocating a linux style release of the day, I'd just
> like to see relatively significant bugs trigger a new release.. 
> (i wouldn't consider the proctitle significant, but the single argument
> bug is pretty serious..)
> 
> nm
> 
> On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
> 
> > Beta-17 will be released in less than 48 hours. It fixes the three bugs
> > that Andy says are the worst (plus a little more) and should prove to
> > be as stable (if not more so) than beta 15.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Stan   | Academ Consulting Services        |internet: sob@academ.com
> > Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
> > Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.
> > 


------------------------------------------------------------
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At the very least, put the source in CVS, fork at 2.4.2b16, and only do
bug fixes on the 2.4.x releases. 

That way, people who want to can work on continued development, and you 
can still maintain slow gradual progress on the main release.

-- Nathan


On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 08:27:27PM -0500, Neulinger, Nathan R wrote:
> I'd second that. My main desire is to pick up the pace, particularly wrt 
> to getting new capabilities added and moving to autoconf. In particular, 
> patches for a couple of authentication types (afs/krb5). 
> 
> It's one thing to put off adding new features till the next version if 
> it's going to be 2 months away, but the current beta cycle has been going 
> on for ages.
> 
> -- Nathan
> 
> On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 07:48:17PM -0500, Nikos Mouat wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> >    I don't really care who supports the main-line version, but I'd really
> > prefer it if bugs like the 'sendmail' proctitle and single argument bugs
> > get patched and an updated version get released right away with these
> > fixes.. I mean it's been 5 months since these bugs have been reported, and
> > all first time users in that time have had to encouter the bugs, report
> > them to the list, and then be told the work arounds or where to find
> > patches.. I'm not advocating a linux style release of the day, I'd just
> > like to see relatively significant bugs trigger a new release.. 
> > (i wouldn't consider the proctitle significant, but the single argument
> > bug is pretty serious..)
> > 
> > nm
> > 
> > On Sat, 9 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
> > 
> > > Beta-17 will be released in less than 48 hours. It fixes the three bugs
> > > that Andy says are the worst (plus a little more) and should prove to
> > > be as stable (if not more so) than beta 15.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Stan   | Academ Consulting Services        |internet: sob@academ.com
> > > Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
> > > Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.
> > > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@umr.edu
> University of Missouri - Rolla         Phone: (573) 341-4841
> Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216


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Stan Barber wrote (quoting me):
>>     I actually talked to [Stan] a little while back, and for all practical
>>purposes, he said his intention was to let wu-ftpd stagnate.  (Sorry, Stan,
>>but that's how it came across.)
>
>It's clear your insight into me is limited. Where did I say in any mail that
>sent you that I intended to do anything other than following the development
>plan as I had outlined it on the web site? 

     Exactly.  And the problem with that is, your development plan doesn't
seem to include bug fixes as soon as they're found.  Witness b16:  The
setproctitle bugs were found mere _days_ after b16 was released, and yet
it's taken five _months_ for you to just announce another beta--and that a
week and a half after you told me personally that you'd get b17 out "in a
few days".

     What you said was that you intended to continue following your
development plan.  What I concluded from that and from the release history
of 2.4.2 was that wu-ftpd wasn't going to go anywhere unless someone else
took over its development.

     I will say that straight-out announcing "wu-ftpd is now at version
2.6.0" was a bad idea.  However, to be frank, I'm quite tired of wu-ftpd
going essentially nowhere over two years, and I want to see its development
continued.  If you can do that, Stan, I'd be more than happy to let you go
ahead and do it--but the past two years have not suggested to me that you
are willing to continue development at a reasonable pace, which is why I
decided to get to work on it myself.  The original idea to create and make
available a new release of wu-ftpd was mine, though Bernhard was the one
that wrote the announcement.  And I intend to continue development--whether
the 2.6 series that Bernhard and I have set up is accepted or not (though I
sincerely hope it will be in spite of its rather rude introduction).

     Like I said, Stan, sorry, but you've done a good job of convincing me
you're not particularly interested in wu-ftpd development.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
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     I realize this may be a bad time, but...

     An updated version of the archive Bernhard and I made available
recently, which fixes most (hopefully all) of the bugs reported to us plus
a few others, can be found at this URL:

ftp://wuftpd.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd-2.6.1.tar.gz

In the midst of the current controversy, I should state that this is simply
our effort to continue development and fix bugs in wu-ftpd; this release is
numbered 2.6.1 simply because the last one was numbered 2.6.0, for better
or for worse.  Use it if you like, or use Stan's latest release (currently
2.4.2 beta 16) if you like.

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In article <Pine.C=64.3.96.980509194237.22267C-100000@mail.savvis.com> nikm@savvis.com writes:
>
>Hi,
>   I don't really care who supports the main-line version, but I'd really
>prefer it if bugs like the 'sendmail' proctitle and single argument bugs
>get patched and an updated version get released right away with these
>fixes.. I mean it's been 5 months since these bugs have been reported, and
>all first time users in that time have had to encouter the bugs, report
>them to the list, and then be told the work arounds or where to find
>patches.. I'm not advocating a linux style release of the day, I'd just
>like to see relatively significant bugs trigger a new release.. 
>(i wouldn't consider the proctitle significant, but the single argument
>bug is pretty serious..)
>
>nm

I guess my sense of time is bad. Beta-16 was release on December 21. Today is 
May 9. That's less than five months by my calculations. Please help me under
stand how it can be five months since the bugs have been reported when it
has been less than five months since the release of beta 16.

By the way, security bugs have always triggered a new bug release. Those
are critical bugs. Bugs like the ones you list are not security bugs and are 
therefore not critical. 

In any case, I had anticipated that people with the source would be able to 
take the information on the bug page and patch their own sources until I was
able to find time to get a beta through a release cycle. Obviously, I
that was a terrible assumption on may part. I will not do that again.
That being said, I am still sticking to my development plan as outlined
previously.  So, if you need new features in the software (as opposed to
bug fixes), using an alternative source may be your best solution.




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In article <199805100231.WAA31156@Bahamut.dragonfire.net> achurch@dragonfire.net writes:
>
> And the problem with that is, your development plan doesn't
>seem to include bug fixes as soon as they're found.  Witness b16:  The
>setproctitle bugs were found mere _days_ after b16 was released, and yet
>it's taken five _months_ for you to just announce another beta--and that a
>week and a half after you told me personally that you'd get b17 out "in a
>few days".

I will fix any security related bugs as soon as they are found and a rational 
fix is developed. I have proved that time and time again. Thes are critical 
bugs and they are addressed quicktly. Other bugs are detailed on the bug page 
and suggested fixes are provided where available. They are not critical and 
I will release software containing non-critical bug fixes as time is available.

>     What you said was that you intended to continue following your
>development plan.  What I concluded from that and from the release history
>of 2.4.2 was that wu-ftpd wasn't going to go anywhere unless someone else
>took over its development.

I guess that's were we differ. I believe a bug-free stable release is better
than some release that has lots of features that may not compile on all
versions of *nix that the various 2.4.2 beta have compiled on in the past. 
Again, folks are welcome to choose what they want. I will finish what I have
started. 

>...
>     Like I said, Stan, sorry, but you've done a good job of convincing me
>you're not particularly interested in wu-ftpd development.

You are welcome to your opinion. I disagree and will continue to do so.
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On 10 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:

> >I mean it's been 5 months since these bugs have been reported, and
> >all first time users in that time have had to encouter the bugs, report
> >them to the list, and then be told the work arounds or where to find
> >patches.. 
> 
> I guess my sense of time is bad. Beta-16 was release on December 21. Today is 
> May 9. That's less than five months by my calculations. Please help me under
> stand how it can be five months since the bugs have been reported when it
> has been less than five months since the release of beta 16.

fine, 'over four months' - either way, it's still a very long time.


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> >     What you said was that you intended to continue following your
> >development plan.  What I concluded from that and from the release history
> >of 2.4.2 was that wu-ftpd wasn't going to go anywhere unless someone else
> >took over its development.
> 
> I guess that's were we differ. I believe a bug-free stable release is better
> than some release that has lots of features that may not compile on all
> versions of *nix that the various 2.4.2 beta have compiled on in the past. 
> Again, folks are welcome to choose what they want. I will finish what I have
> started. 

Then quit calling it a beta. Freeze it where it's reasonably stable, and 
don't screw with it except for bug fixes.

Last I heard, alphas and beta WERE for testing new features and
functionality, not for stable releases. 

-- Nathan

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> Then quit calling it a beta. Freeze it where it's reasonably stable, and 
> don't screw with it except for bug fixes.

I will be happy to freeze it when it's stable. It's not, yet.

> Last I heard, alphas and beta WERE for testing new features and
> functionality, not for stable releases. 

I think alphas and betas are for testing anything, features or fixes. So, you
are partially right, but your picture is incomplete.


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On 10 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:

> I guess my sense of time is bad. Beta-16 was release on December 21. Today is 
> May 9. That's less than five months by my calculations. Please help me under
> stand how it can be five months since the bugs have been reported when it
> has been less than five months since the release of beta 16.

Sheesh, Stan, get a life!  You're quibbling over less than two weeks out
of, what, a 16 week period?  

> By the way, security bugs have always triggered a new bug release. Those
> are critical bugs. Bugs like the ones you list are not security bugs and are 
> therefore not critical. 

No, they just confuse users making them wonder what kind of programmer
would make such a STUPID mistake.  Didn't you even RUN the code before you
rolled the release?  Oh of course you did.  Didn't blow up so you shipped.
Good QA plan there, real good.

So, he didn't mention the fact that hidden amonst all your other mistakes
and typos in Beta 16 was the accidental removal of all security for the
upload directive.  But I can see your point, Stan.  File system integrity
has nothing to do with security after all, so any problems in it can wait
months until you get arround to looking into it.  No need to panic, Warez
traders are so afraid of the security features of wu-ftpd they'll _never_
notice they were accidentially removed, will they?

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On Sun, 10 May 1998, Nathan Neulinger wrote:

> Then quit calling it a beta. Freeze it where it's reasonably stable, and 
> don't screw with it except for bug fixes.
> 
> Last I heard, alphas and beta WERE for testing new features and
> functionality, not for stable releases. 

You're not reading what Stan said.  He said 'bug-free'.  He has no
intention of declaring a release until he attains it.  That means NEVER!
He can't do it.  Nobody can.  One can only hope that someday he grows up
and realizes it.  Until then, anyone wanna talk about the problems in
wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-6245?

----

Gregory A Lundberg		Senior Partner, VRnet Company
1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
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> Sheesh, Stan, get a life!  You're quibbling over less than two weeks out
> of, what, a 16 week period?  

No, I am not quibbling. I am trying to point out that time is relative.
Someone says that it's been 5 months, when it hasn't. Another points out
that I said I'd release after a few days and then are upset when I take
"a week and a half" to get a beta out. 

> > By the way, security bugs have always triggered a new bug release. Those
> > are critical bugs. Bugs like the ones you list are not security bugs and are 
> > therefore not critical. 
> 
> No, they just confuse users making them wonder what kind of programmer
> would make such a STUPID mistake.  Didn't you even RUN the code before you
> rolled the release?  Oh of course you did.  Didn't blow up so you shipped.
> Good QA plan there, real good.

At least you admit they are not critical. And yes, I do run the code. I even 
run it for many days. I have been known to do pre-beta releases to a limited 
set of folks to check things out. However, just like Andy and Bernhard, I do 
make mistakes. Beta-16 had more than usual for me. Unfortunately, I didn't
have the time available at the beginning of 1998 to work on getting another
release out, so I documented the bugs on the web page. I expected that folks
would be able to patch their code from that information. I was wrong. I have
admitted that and am now working on a release that will fix that.


> So, he didn't mention the fact that hidden amonst all your other mistakes
> and typos in Beta 16 was the accidental removal of all security for the
> upload directive.  But I can see your point, Stan.  File system integrity
> has nothing to do with security after all, so any problems in it can wait
> months until you get arround to looking into it.  No need to panic, Warez
> traders are so afraid of the security features of wu-ftpd they'll _never_
> notice they were accidentially removed, will they?

Have you reported this? I have a ticket 535 from you that concerns the 
interpretation of "cd ~", but that does not seem to relate to the upload
directive in the ftpaccess file. If you are going to accuse me of doing
something, at least have the courtesy of filing a bug report so that problems
can be corrected.


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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Sun May 10 01:41:42 1998
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Well... I have been quiet up until now because it was Stan's place to 
respond initially.  He has so I have no problem jumping in... ;)

The term hijacked, used here earlier, was an appropriate one. That is what 
was attempted here. Plain and simple. While the intention might have been
good, the way that this was executed showed a total lack of understanding 
of the community that they wanted so much to support...  Let's look at it.

First was the declaration to us that they had the only acceptable way 
to improve wu-ftpd.  They didn't discuss it here, they just said wu-ftpd
2.6 was THE WU-FTPD. Sorry, but most people (especially those who have been 
spending many years with wu-ftpd development) would much rather see actions 
that are positive for the wu-ftpd installed community than grandstanding.

Second was the depiction that they had no qualms leaving a large number 
of sites high and dry functionality-wise; that their way was the only 
way and it did not matter what the community was currently using. It was 
their patch or no patch.  

Third, they showed a real lack of understanding about what it takes
to manage large sets of virtual domains. 

Andy wrote:
# What I don't like about your patch is that it adds yet another 
# configuration file, and requires a separate directory for each
# v-host.  

Oh, let's not talk about the added functionality that it provides, (like
independent support for all wu-ftpd configuration files which their patch
does not) let's count configuration files. This must have been said with 
little understanding about the newvirt patch. It DOES require an additional
ftpservers file but beyond that everything can be done in the master 
ftpaccess file.  If a site then needs to have extra support, they can by 
creating a separate area (while not affecting any or the other virtual 
domains specified in the master ftpaccess file).  

The newvirt patch has had over 3500 sites download it, over 300 in April 
alone.  It is being used because it supports ALL config files and it is 
easy to admin.  Andy and crowd would have us (the sites that really need 
newvirt) go back to the minimal virtual support of the baselined wu-ftpd 
functionality simply because it requires another config file ?  I really 
do not care if it requires additional config files as long as it provides 
the functionality needed and it is easy to administer. Both are the case
in the existing newvirt patch.

The biggest problem I have with all that has transpired is one of trust.
I have seen grandstanding, a deliberate attempt to hijack development,
no attempt made to talk this out with the community and being told that 
they really don't care about the installed base... This is not the group 
that I'd throw my hat in with. Who knows what direction we would be yanked
next month........

Now let's look at the reasons behind why they felt they needed to make 
this ill attempt at "rescuing wu-ftpd development".  There is no doubt 
that wu-ftpd development could move much faster. 

There are some risks with moving it REALLY fast.  First is the installed 
base and upgrading. It is hard enough to get sites to take the time to 
upgrade their installations.  Moving too fast will not matter to a large 
segment of the community that can't or won't keep playing the "weekly 
upgrade game". Second is the potential for introduction of bugs and 
security problems due to minimal testing.  We need to be very careful 
about wu-ftpd and it's security.  It is a program that provides access 
to our systems and it would be easy enough to drop the ball, open a hole 
and sink wu-ftpd into the muck of Internet bad-press. (Not counting the 
loss of business due to lack of customer confidence in our facilities.)

That said, I too have been frustrated at times with the pace of development.
That is not a secret. I floated ideas of an Apache development in December
and for all the grumblings that I heard, (except for one person) no one was 
willing to be able to spend the amount of time and money that it takes to 
get an effort (as organized as Apache's) set up and running.  I wanted to 
see a set of people, i.e. 10+ active developers, and thought that would 
happen. It didn't and while Stan has been slow at times, replacing one
stable and steady for another (seeming unknown) didn't make sense EVEN
when it was I who was the unknown.  And now we have Andy. Sorry...

If there is to be the type of improvement that Andy and others have
wanted then it needs to be done right if it is expected to be called
wu-ftpd. What we just saw was not the right way.  What needs to be setup 
is an Apache-style development with resources and commitment from an 
active set of developers. 

I have no problem with anyone going off and improving wu-ftpd. Look at me.
I did the newvirt patches and have been supporting them. Someday I expect
them to be merged into the baseline sources. Until then I'll support them.
I went off and improved wu-ftpd but I did it within the structure of the
community. I have tried to get an Apache-style development going and would 
be willing to participate in one. It WOULD NOT be a dictatorship, it WOULD 
BE a real group effort. 

Andy, if you want to develop BeroFTPD, do so, but don't change its name 
to wu-ftpd just to gain user acceptance.  Maybe when/if an Apache-type 
development gets started you can come back constructively and contribute 
your sources to the effort.  Until then, don't call it WU-FTPD because
it ain't.

And to all the NEWVIRT sites... I WILL keep supporting the NEWVIRT
version and as soon as Beta-17 is up I'll make a patch available for it.
(Virtual Passwd file support is coming as well. :))

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> You're not reading what Stan said.  He said 'bug-free'.  He has no
> intention of declaring a release until he attains it.  That means NEVER!
> He can't do it.  Nobody can.  One can only hope that someday he grows up
> and realizes it.  Until then, anyone wanna talk about the problems in
> wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-6245?

Clearly, you have a personal beef with me with comments like "get a life"
and "one can only hope that someday he grows up". 

If you have something constructive to contibute (like the bug fix I referred
to in my previous message involving you), please do. Otherwise, the rest of
your commentary concerning me is irrelevant to the work at hand.


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bero@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de writes:
#
# Sorry. I have to take the blame here - I made the announcement. Not
# because I wanted people to move to our work or something, but because it
# is what I heard from a few different sources; primarily as feedback for
# the wu-ftpd based BeroFTPD I released a while before.
# 
# Andy: do we move our version to a different name?

That seems to be a given. ;) I sort of liked BeroFTPD.  Thanks for being 
up front about it.

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# 
#      I realize this may be a bad time, but...

Then do something about it and don't make it worse.

#      An updated version of the archive Bernhard and I made available
# recently, which fixes most (hopefully all) of the bugs reported to us plus
# a few others, can be found at this URL:

It started out as BeroFTPD and you changed the name to WU-FTPD. This 
was a mistake and is currently at the center of the problem.

# ftp://wuftpd.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd-2.6.1.tar.gz

Should be

# ftp://wuftpd.dragonfire.net/beroftpd-2.6.1.tar.gz
#
# In the midst of the current controversy, I should state that this is simply
# our effort to continue development and fix bugs in wu-ftpd; this release is
# numbered 2.6.1 simply because the last one was numbered 2.6.0, for better
# or for worse.  Use it if you like, or use Stan's latest release (currently
# 2.4.2 beta 16) if you like.

Do you intend to continue to intentionally confuse and splinter the
wu-ftpd community ? If so, this is not productive. Do us all a favor and
change the name back to beroftpd.  You can still continue development 
and fix bugs. That doen't need to change, just the name (back to what
it started as.) Thanks.

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On Sun, 10 May 1998, Gregory A Lundberg wrote:

> On 10 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
> 
> > I guess my sense of time is bad. Beta-16 was release on December 21. Today is 
> > May 9. That's less than five months by my calculations. Please help me under
> > stand how it can be five months since the bugs have been reported when it
> > has been less than five months since the release of beta 16.
> 
> Sheesh, Stan, get a life!  You're quibbling over less than two weeks out
> of, what, a 16 week period?  
> 
> > By the way, security bugs have always triggered a new bug release. Those
> > are critical bugs. Bugs like the ones you list are not security bugs and are 
> > therefore not critical. 
> 
> No, they just confuse users making them wonder what kind of programmer
> would make such a STUPID mistake.  Didn't you even RUN the code before you
> rolled the release?  Oh of course you did.  Didn't blow up so you shipped.
> Good QA plan there, real good.

Without commenting on Stan's releases either way, the "2.6.0" release is a
prime example of shipping code that doesn't even compile on most
platforms.  Heck, nearly the only platform it will compile on is Linux.
It seems silly to take a bit of code that runs on a wide number of
platforms and introduce needless platform-specific things.


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Kent,

    As a very happy user of the wu-ftpd software, I wanted to say 'Thanks,
Man' for your comments about the ill-will that's been flying back and forth
in regarding Stan's development efforts.

    And Stan, if you're reading this -- hang in there!  Not all of us are
nearly as quick to condemn the efforts you've given in support of this
software, and please continue to do what you have to do to make this
package something that the whole wu-ftpd user community can have confidence
in.

    Good luck with the Apache development arrangement!  I think it would be
of great benefit, also!

    Regards,

    Marcus E. Harris
    (Content wu-ftpd user/admin)

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     Kent, BeroFTPD was Bernhard's invention, not mine.  My intention from
the start was to work on wu-ftpd--while still calling it wu-ftpd.  I agree
(and it seems Bernhard does too) that the announcement of 2.6.0 was badly
timed and in bad taste (not to mention the compiling problems).  If
Bernhard wants to rename his copy back to BeroFTPD, that's fine with me,
but I plan to keep working on wu-ftpd as it is.  (I suppose I could be
convinced to rename mine to something like wu-ftpd-plus...)

     And for those people who _are_ using **-ftpd 2.6.0, it seemed
reasonable to let them know the problems in 2.6.0 were fixed.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
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># 
>#      I realize this may be a bad time, but...
>
>Then do something about it and don't make it worse.
>
>#      An updated version of the archive Bernhard and I made available
># recently, which fixes most (hopefully all) of the bugs reported to us plus
># a few others, can be found at this URL:
>
>It started out as BeroFTPD and you changed the name to WU-FTPD. This 
>was a mistake and is currently at the center of the problem.
>
># ftp://wuftpd.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd-2.6.1.tar.gz
>
>Should be
>
># ftp://wuftpd.dragonfire.net/beroftpd-2.6.1.tar.gz
>#
># In the midst of the current controversy, I should state that this is simply
># our effort to continue development and fix bugs in wu-ftpd; this release is
># numbered 2.6.1 simply because the last one was numbered 2.6.0, for better
># or for worse.  Use it if you like, or use Stan's latest release (currently
># 2.4.2 beta 16) if you like.
>
>Do you intend to continue to intentionally confuse and splinter the
>wu-ftpd community ? If so, this is not productive. Do us all a favor and
>change the name back to beroftpd.  You can still continue development 
>and fix bugs. That doen't need to change, just the name (back to what
>it started as.) Thanks.
>
>#   --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
>#     achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
>#     www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.
>
>-- 
>Kent Landfield                        Phone: 1-817-545-2502             
>Email: kent@landfield.com             http://www.landfield.com/
>Email: kent@nfr.net                   http://www.nfr.net/
>Please send comp.sources.misc related mail to kent@landfield.com
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     Just for the record, back in December or so, Kent mailed me (among
others) about such a development setup.  I of course was interested, and
told him so; but after that, it seemed to more or less disappear; I mailed
him about it (back in March or so, if memory serves), but didn't get a
reply--I've since been told he was off doing paid work.  Eventually I
decided to work on it myself, and Bernhard decided to join his BeroFTPD
project with what I was doing.  (Kent, I'm _not_ trying to lay any blame on
you; the timing and method of our release were completely our fault.)

     If everyone can agree using on _someone's_ distributed development
setup--ours, Kent's, someone else's--I'd be happy to join it.  But as I've
said before, I want to get something done with wu-ftpd.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

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     Well, apparently my reasoning ability is not at its peak at the
moment.  I'm going to say this (speaking ONLY for myself here) and then
shut up.

     I think we goofed, and goofed in a rather spectacular way.  Dropping
this on the list was NOT the way to go.  Moreover, since then, tensions
have been running pretty high, and as most of you probably realize, that
causes common sense and coolness to fall by the wayside sometimes.  I want
to apologize personally for adding to the confusion by dropping the 2.6.1
notice on everyone as well.

     I'll let Bernhard say the rest (seeing as he's smartly not been
getting involved in the brouhaha).

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
    achurch@dragonfire.net       | of communication, then it desperately
    www.dragonfire.net/~achurch/ | needs a quadruple bypass.

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Topic change! :-)

A short time ago, I approached Stan about possibly considering a rehash of
the FTPACCESS file in wu-ftpd.  I suggested that perhaps we adopt a
configuration file format similar to what the new BIND-8.x.x uses.  I think
the present format is a little confusing, first off, but adopting a new
configuration method might offer not only easier reading, but perhaps more
control over what's going on.

Stan suggested that I come up with a coded prototype, but my programming
skills are just not up-to-par at the moment to do this.  So, as a better
approach, I thought I would toss the idea into the group and see what happens.

For example, we could implement per-directory permissions in the form:

directory		incoming  {
		ROOT		=	FTPHOME		// indicates the path is relative to ~ftp
		UPLOAD	= 	0600			// if set to anything other than NO, use these permissions
		interface	= 	0.0.0.0			// for machines that have more than one interface
		security	=	normal			// perhaps for specifying/enforcing SSL transactions ?
		group		= 	staff
		chroot		=	yes
		LOG		=	FILE  /some/path	// logs can be customized and located separately
if needed
		LOGOPT	= 	in:out			// logging parameters
		HOSTS		= 	0.0.0.0:time-string; 	// include FTPACCESS functionality ?
}

You could also have, at the top, some default definitions that would take
place if not overridden below.

Yes, this is probably not the best example, and I could have put more
thought into it before posting... but my time is a little limited at the
moment :-)

I realize that this opens up a plethora of options, and will take some
significant coding time to implement.  As such, it's probably more
appropriate for a future revision of wu-ftpd.  It might also make it
feasible to integrate the FTPACCESS functionality into this configuration
file--which can be tailored on a per-directory basis.

Comments?


Forrest


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>      I think we goofed, and goofed in a rather spectacular way.  Dropping
> this on the list was NOT the way to go.

Good technical people are often driven by inner forces that cause them to
be volatile or just plain abrasive - especially when their work is called
into question.

Although we've seen a few hard fouls, and probably a few relationships will
remain tense, I don't think anybody has anything to apologize for.

The fact is that, despite the inevitable failures and missteps, some very
good work has been done.  And we recognize the individuals that have done
it (patches, ideas, and all).

Thanks,

Richard Goerwitz
Brown University

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On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 01:00:59AM -0500, Stan Barber wrote:
> > You're not reading what Stan said.  He said 'bug-free'.  He has no
> > intention of declaring a release until he attains it.  That means NEVER!
> > He can't do it.  Nobody can.  One can only hope that someday he grows up
> > and realizes it.  Until then, anyone wanna talk about the problems in
> > wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-6245?
> 
> Clearly, you have a personal beef with me with comments like "get a life"
> and "one can only hope that someday he grows up". 
> 
> If you have something constructive to contibute (like the bug fix I referred
> to in my previous message involving you), please do. Otherwise, the rest of
> your commentary concerning me is irrelevant to the work at hand.
> 
Will you please stop fighting.

Stan,
  If you continue replying to flames on this mailing list you wont be
able to even let out the B17.

  I think we all agree on the fact that there should be two separate
project instead of one with two unrelated versions. There is not point
in this argument.

> 
> -- 
> Stan   | Academ Consulting Services        |internet: sob@academ.com
> Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
> Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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At 11:08 PM 06/05/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>> >I'm running linux 2.0.23, and decided to move to
wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ-beta16.
>
>[...]
>
>>      That's probably the single-command-line bug.  Get the following patch:
>
Got the patch, works great, but after upgrading to 2.4.2-academ-beta-16 and
also to wu-ftpd 2.6.1, each new version denied logins from real and guest
users. Only anon users could log in. Was working great with the regular
2.4.2-beta-16. Am I missing a switch (already using -a) or did I forget
something when I compiled the source???
		Thankx in advance
						Mike Lowrie 

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In article <19980510222406.A15207@aristo.tau.ac.il> eilon@aristo.tau.ac.il writes:
>Will you please stop fighting.

I am not fighting. My comments were meant to say that I believe that
the original comments were not constructive and not relevant. I didn't 
say the person who wrote the comments was a bad person or that he was not
entitled to his opinion.


>Stan,
>  If you continue replying to flames on this mailing list you wont be
>able to even let out the B17.

I will respond to any comments from anyone where I believe those comments
misrepresents my interests or intentions. It's unfortunate if you have a 
problem with that. But, I will continue to respond if I believe I need to do 
so. As for the release of b17, these responses have not affected that. I have
been compiling up gcc on Solaris 2.6 x86 and that takes time.


-- 
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Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
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BETA 17 is now available. It has been tested on the following systems:

BSD/OS 3.1
BSDI BSD/386 1.1
FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE
Redhat Linux 3.0.3
Redhat Linux 5.0
SCO Open Server 5
Solaris 2.4 x86 (gcc  2.7.2.1)
Solaris 2.5.1 x86 (gcc  2.7.2.3)
Solaris 2.6 sparc (SunC 3.0.1)
Solaris 2.6 x86 (gcc 2.7.2.3)
SunOS 4.1.4 sparc (bundled cc)
UnixWare 2.1

I would like to hear from folks with access to HP-UX, Digital Unix, IRIX
and AIX in particular. Please send mail to the wu-ftpd-bugs@academ.com
address. 

If hardware companies wish to donate equipment running their proprietary
UNIX derivatives to me for doing maintenance work on this and the other
packages I maintain (NNTP, RN, etc), please contact me directly to discuss.

If software companies that sell UNIX derivatives I don't to which I don't
have access wish to donain copies of their UNIX derivative to me for the
purposes of doing maintenace work on this and the other packages I maintain,
please contact me directly to discuss.

This is not a release candidate. Beta 18 will be the next release candidate.

The location is: 
	ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-17.tar.Z

NOTE: This directory is protected. Attempts to use a directory listing 
command will fail.

You can also check http://www.academ.com/academ/wu-ftpd for more information.

** FIXES IN THIS RELEASE**
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This release contains only four fixes. The first is a cosmetic fix to
change what setproctitle() puts in the line returned when you do a
ps from "sendmail:" to "ftpd:". This was a mistake I made when I integrated
the new sendmail 8.8.7 proctitle stuff into beta-16. 

The second is to move "initsetproctitle" from one location in the ftpd.c 
file to another and remove some code that duplicated some of the functions
of "initsetproctitle" from ftpd.c. This should fix the problem many people 
reports on some operating systems concerning the use of command line 
arguements.

The third is to remove a declaration atol()  in ftpcmd.y so that wu-ftpd
will compile properly on systems that declare atol as a macro. 

The fourth is to fix the hostacc.c introduced in beta-16. This fixes all the
various alloc/free problems in the memory allocation and retains the 
dynamic feature introduced in beta-16.

There are also a few portability fixes to make it easy to compile the
software on Solaris 2.6.
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I appreciate getting bug fixes or bug reports, but please read the bugs page 
before sending me a report of a bug already listed there. The URL is 
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Andy and I fully support Kent's call for an open development group
for wu-ftpd and look forward to its formation.

Until that time, when our work will hopefully be folded into the
base code, we will continue development of our version of the
software under the name BeroFTPD.  A slightly modified version of 2.6.1
has been made available from:

         ftp://linux.net.eu.org/pub/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz
         ftp://croftj.net/usr/bero/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz

We wish to close with our appologies to the wu-ftpd community for
any confusion which may have resulted from our hastily-worded
earlier postings. It was not our intent to confuse but to support
a valuable piece of net.software.

Sincerely,

Andy Church
Bernhard Rosenkraenzer


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# 
# Andy and I fully support Kent's call for an open development group
# for wu-ftpd and look forward to its formation.
# 
# Until that time, when our work will hopefully be folded into the
# base code, we will continue development of our version of the
# software under the name BeroFTPD.  A slightly modified version of 2.6.1
# has been made available from:
# 
#          ftp://linux.net.eu.org/pub/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz
#          ftp://croftj.net/usr/bero/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz
# 
# We wish to close with our appologies to the wu-ftpd community for
# any confusion which may have resulted from our hastily-worded
# earlier postings. It was not our intent to confuse but to support
# a valuable piece of net.software.
# 
# Sincerely,
# 
# Andy Church
# Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

Andy and Bernard,
	
I just want to publicly thank you for doing the right thing.  I know it 
wasn't easy. This will cut down on the community's confusion greatly. 
Most here realize that the intent was good. 

I am pleased to hear of your support for an open development process for
a next generation wu-ftpd.  Looks like some good did come from last week's 
"fun". ;) I'll post a description of what I had in mind last December in a 
separate message.

Once again, thanks for doing the right thing.

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Dusting it off.... ;)

Background:
-----------

For quite a few years there has been a rather stable FTP protocol
specification.  In the past few years a great deal of work has gone
into creating an FTP server that provided functionality beyond just 
the FTP protocol.  The result was the WU-FTPD server.  The WU-FTPD 
server was initially developed under a grant funded by the National 
Science Foundation.  It has since taken on a life of its own and has 
been reported by one FTP software vendor to be the number one ftpd 
server on the Internet fielded at over 60% of the sites offering 
anonymous ftp.

There are currently multiple efforts to:
	- extend the base FTP protocol,
	- to integrate new means of access authentication,
	- to add the features needed to effectively administer 
	  an FTP server in today's Internet.  

These efforts seem to be going in different directions. There has 
been no attempt to produce a unified FTP Server that is capable of 
satisfying the needs of these currently divergent projects.

Current efforts underway consist of:
	WU-FTPD
	RFC 2228 work
	Kerberos base FTP/FTPD
	IETF FTPEXT Working Group
	Virtual Hosted FTPD
	Vendor FTPD Extensions
	FTP Security tunneling
	Server Performance Enhancements
	Server Administration Tool Development

In order to continue the evolution of the WU-FTPD server functionality,
it is important that it keep up with the advancements in the protocol 
as well as the features needed to manage ftp services in our changing 
networked environments.

This is a request for participation in an effort to create the next
generation of WU-FTPD enhancements.  The purpose of the project is 
to integrate new capabilities requested by the Internet community as 
well as the ongoing work of the IETF FTPEXT working group and other 
FTP related development efforts. This effort is being established 
using basically the same model that is used for the Apache web server 
development.  What follows are general thoughts on how we can get this 
set up effectively.  This is just an initial stab at it so everything 
here is fair game at present.  This was patterned after (and some 
words taken from) the Apache project management documentation. While 
this model is not perfect, it is a starting point for discussion and 
it is expected we will tailor it to suit our needs.

Core membership:
----------------

There will be a team of core developers. These people will be given 
logins and access on a central developmental system.

Access to the project baseline:
-------------------------------

Developmental access to the baseline will accomplished be via CVS. 
This is to be used to make it easier to apply and track patches. The 
project's current software base, documentation, and information files 
are to be held in CVS repositories. Core developers will be able to 
check out a copy of the repository, in essence replicating it on their 
own machines. The developers can change files and test as needed, and 
selectively commit those changes back to the central repository using 
a single CVS command. A change to the repository triggers an e-mail 
message describing the change. This message is then sent to a separate 
mailing list. Other developers can then use a CVS command that searches 
for modifications to the remote repository and merges them into the copy 
on their machine.

To assure that we do not have problems with security, it is proposed 
that SSH be used so developers do not need to send their passwords in 
the clear over the Internet.  SSH client software will need to be 
installed on all development systems in order to allow transparent 
execution of remote CVS commands or logins on the project server.  
SSH will also automatically encrypt all traffic as well.

Mailing lists: 
---------------

There will be a few mailing lists needed to support the project.  

First there will be a core developer list. This will be the primary 
means of communication for active developers.  Subscription to the 
developer's mailing list will be open to the public.

Topics will include designs for new features, bug fixes, user problems, 
important news about the ftp community, product release dates, and 
project strategy etc.  Private e-mail will be used for resolving 
localized conflicts between group members, or when the discussion 
includes confidential information. 

All list traffic will be archived in Unix mailbox format and using a 
modified hypermail with search capabilities so that all can see what 
has been said when they need to or have time to.

The second list will be a public announcement-only list that anyone 
can subscribe to so that people can be alerted to important project 
progress, patches or new releases.

The third list will be a change announcement list where CVS change
notifications (described above) will be sent. Subscription to this 
list is closed to the general public, only core members (or the CVS 
system) may post.  Redistribution of traffic on this list is 
discouraged.

The fourth list will be a private announcement list notifying 
interested core members of all postings to the problem tracking 
system. An archive of submitted problem reports will be publically 
available.

Problem Tracking:
-----------------

We need a way to track unsolved problems. To do this we need a 
central problem-tracking system that is accessible via both Web 
and e-mail.  Initially it is envisioned that GNATS (the Gnu Problem 
Report Management System developed by Cygnus) will be used.  There 
others, for example another system is called PTS (Project Tracking 
System) that embeds directly into an Apache server and uses a back-end 
database system for all transactions.  This may be something for us 
to consider using as well. 

Voting:
-------

There is no project CEO, president, manager, or even secretary. 

People volunteer for needed tasks and rotate tasks when they get 
tired or are too busy to continue. 

Decisions are to be made by consensus (for code changes or legal 
issues) or by majority vote, with the voting taking place via the 
core developers mailing list.  Core developers are the only people 
who have a vote. Serious decisions  such as release readiness and
leagal issues requires input from all of the active members.

To be committed on the baseline system's CVS tree, at least three 
positive votes are required and there can be no negative (or veto) 
votes.

Adding Members:
---------------

New members of the core group will be added when a frequent contributor 
is nominated by one core member and approved by a simple majority of the 
core members.  In most cases, this "new" member should have been actively 
contributing to the group's work for some period of time. 

Developer Community:
--------------------

It is the intention of the project to foster continued development 
of a full functioned ftpd and to assure that all suggestions are 
heard and responded to.  It is expected that there will be suggestions, 
enhancements and fixes coming from the Internet community.  It is 
our intention to try to respond to the needs of a changing network 
environment.

Source Archives:
----------------

There are two different baselines here, the developmental one using 
CVS and the public version.  The public version will be available via 
ftp, http and anonymous CVS and will be mirrored in various places around 
the net.

The CVS tree will be publicly available for read-only access to foster 
the development efforts of new participants in the project.

Initial areas of work:
----------------------

Before we can write a line of code we need to accomplish a few things.
First is to establish the core developer team.  Second we need to get
a system setup to act as the central repository, mail hub and web site
for the project.  The CVS repository needs to be created and the core
developer accounts need to be established.  Core developers will need
to assure ssh client software is setup on their systems.  We will then 
need to develop the working guidelines of the project that all can agree 
on. (Note: the above is a think piece to get us started.)

The above is needed from an administrative perspective simply to get 
the project started.  At that point we need to

   * Review of the current wu-ftpd code structure with suggestions 
     as to its reorganization to support modular additions,

   * Document an API to allow easily added feature modules,

   * Examine of the feature set of emerging functionality to be added,

   * Determine which features should be developed in parallel or in 
     sequence and in what general order,

   * Start working on it.

This will require that the project track the work of the various FTP
related development efforts that are occurring, most notably the IETF
FTPEXT working group.

Summary:
---------

If you would like to participate as a member of the project, or 
if you would like to recommend another person as a prospective member, 
please let me know. If you have questions don't hesitate to ask.  

Thanks.

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> 
> Andy and I fully support Kent's call for an open development group
> for wu-ftpd and look forward to its formation.
> 
> Until that time, when our work will hopefully be folded into the
> base code, we will continue development of our version of the
> software under the name BeroFTPD.  A slightly modified version of 2.6.1
> has been made available from:
> 
>          ftp://linux.net.eu.org/pub/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz
>          ftp://croftj.net/usr/bero/BeroFTPD/BeroFTPD-1.0.5.tar.gz
> 
> We wish to close with our appologies to the wu-ftpd community for
> any confusion which may have resulted from our hastily-worded
> earlier postings. It was not our intent to confuse but to support
> a valuable piece of net.software.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andy Church
> Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
>

I too thank you, and letting us have an option.

Hence we have wu-ftpd still with stand under beta
and Church/Rosenkraenzer developing BeroFTPD BASED on wu-ftpd.

That being said and after this weekend's confusion, can we have a 
wu-ftpd-2.7.0-BETA1 due to this weekend confusion Stan?
 
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I am checking out the wu-ftpd configuration that someone else set up and I was
looking for the xferstats script that is supposed to be in the util directory.

I don't see a util directory under the ftp file structure. Can anyone point me
to where I could get a copy of this script? Out of curiosity, is the util
directory supposed to be there along with the bin, dev, etc, pub and usr dirs?

Thanks,

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On Mon, 11 May 1998, Jack Lampley wrote:

> I don't see a util directory under the ftp file structure. Can anyone point me
> to where I could get a copy of this script? Out of curiosity, is the util
> directory supposed to be there along with the bin, dev, etc, pub and usr dirs?

You're looking in the wrong place.  It should be in the ftp source kit
directory not the ftp site directory.  Last time I looked (b16) it was in
the dsource kit.  Haven't looked in B17 yet today.

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In article <199805111453.IAA24790@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca writes:
>That being said and after this weekend's confusion, can we have a 
>wu-ftpd-2.7.0-BETA1 due to this weekend confusion Stan?

Huh? I just let out beta-17. There is what was to be beta-17 that will
be beta-18 that will have some more fixes that I had not gotten all the
testing done on. I expect to release beta-18 around July 4th, barring
something that come along and eats all my spare time.


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> 
> In article <199805111453.IAA24790@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca writes:
> >That being said and after this weekend's confusion, can we have a 
> >wu-ftpd-2.7.0-BETA1 due to this weekend confusion Stan?
> 
> Huh? I just let out beta-17. There is what was to be beta-17 that will
> be beta-18 that will have some more fixes that I had not gotten all the
> testing done on. I expect to release beta-18 around July 4th, barring
> something that come along and eats all my spare time.

What am I saying is thanks to the BERO team screwing up the numbering,
instead of wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-18 got with wu-ftpd-2.7.0-beta-1.

Happened to INN.

> 
> 
> -- 
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> 


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On 11 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:

> >That being said and after this weekend's confusion, can we have a 
> >wu-ftpd-2.7.0-BETA1 due to this weekend confusion Stan?
> 
> Huh? I just let out beta-17. There is what was to be beta-17 that will
> be beta-18 that will have some more fixes that I had not gotten all the
> testing done on. I expect to release beta-18 around July 4th, barring
> something that come along and eats all my spare time.

I think I can see where he's coming from, Stan, but it sounded more like
sarcasm to me.  His point was that by bumping past the confusion, your
version would appear the latest and greatest.  Somehow I doubt it'll
matter given the short life of the confusion.

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It appears that the message directive is not working.

I've tried, in ftpaccess:

message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	
message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	all
message	/.login			login	all

And it doesn't work when the user logs in.  It does, however, display the
banner (before login) without trouble.


forrest



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> 
> On 11 May 1998, Stan Barber wrote:
> 
> > >That being said and after this weekend's confusion, can we have a 
> > >wu-ftpd-2.7.0-BETA1 due to this weekend confusion Stan?
> > 
> > Huh? I just let out beta-17. There is what was to be beta-17 that will
> > be beta-18 that will have some more fixes that I had not gotten all the
> > testing done on. I expect to release beta-18 around July 4th, barring
> > something that come along and eats all my spare time.
> 
> I think I can see where he's coming from, Stan, but it sounded more like
> sarcasm to me.  His point was that by bumping past the confusion, your
> version would appear the latest and greatest.  Somehow I doubt it'll
> matter given the short life of the confusion.
> 
> ----
> 
> Gregory A Lundberg		Senior Partner, VRnet Company
> 1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
> Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195
> 
> 

And of course BERO 1.0.5 has a hard time with BSDI 3.1

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In article <199805111835.OAA00571@navinet.net> forrie@tiac.net writes:
>It appears that the message directive is not working.
>
>I've tried, in ftpaccess:
>
>message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	
>message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	all
>message	/.login			login	all
>
>And it doesn't work when the user logs in.  It does, however, display the
>banner (before login) without trouble.
>
>
>forrest
>
>

Remember that -a is required on the command line to get this to work.

Check "ftp.sesqui.net" for an example of beta-17 with messages on 
a Solaris 2.6 system. ftp.academ.com is a BSD/OS 3.1 system with beta-17
and messages are working there.

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On Mon, 11 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> It appears that the message directive is not working.
> 
> I've tried, in ftpaccess:
> 
> message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	
> message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	all
> message	/.login			login	all
> 
> And it doesn't work when the user logs in.  It does, however, display the
> banner (before login) without trouble.

Looks broken to me too.  And for some time.  Just tried it on beta-12 and
get the same results.  'readme' works, 'message' doesn't.  Tried for anon
and guestgroups, my current site config doesn't have any non-chroot'd
users.  Maybe someone can test against beta 16 or 17 and with normal
users?

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I'm running this on FreeBSD-2.2.6-STABLE.  And according to the manpage, my
setup in FTPACCESS is correct.  The message should be displayed upon a user
login, and it doesn't happen.  It's not super critical, but thought I would
mention that there appears to be a problem with it.  I've tried changing
"login" to "LOGIN" just in case :-)

>From the manpage:
                
        message <path> {<when> {<class> ...}}
                Define a file with <path> such that ftpd will display
                the contents of the file to the user login time or
                upon using the change working directory command.  The
                <when> parameter may be "LOGIN" or "CWD=<dir>".  If
                <when> is "CWD=<dir>", <dir> specifies the new
                default directory which will trigger the notification.


For what it's worth, I've experienced odd problems with XINETD (the
precompiled
package) on FreeBSD... it wasn't parsing the configuration file (or didn't
seem
to be correctly).  So, I recompiled it myself and it worked fine.  Point
being,
maybe we have a system call bug?  Just speculation....


Forrie

At 06:54 PM 5/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
>In article <199805111835.OAA00571@navinet.net> forrie@tiac.net writes:
>>It appears that the message directive is not working.
>>
>>I've tried, in ftpaccess:
>>
>>message       /local/home/ftp/.login  login   
>>message       /local/home/ftp/.login  login   all
>>message       /.login                 login   all
>>
>>And it doesn't work when the user logs in.  It does, however, display the
>>banner (before login) without trouble.
>>
>>
>>forrest
>>
>>
>
>Remember that -a is required on the command line to get this to work.
>
>Check "ftp.sesqui.net" for an example of beta-17 with messages on 
>a Solaris 2.6 system. ftp.academ.com is a BSD/OS 3.1 system with beta-17
>and messages are working there.
>
>-- 
>Stan   | Academ Consulting Services        |internet: sob@academ.com
>Olan   | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: mcsun!academ!sob
>Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.
>  


From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Mon May 11 15:44:01 1998
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On Mon, 11 May 1998, Gregory A Lundberg wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> > It appears that the message directive is not working.
> > I've tried, in ftpaccess:
> > message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	
> > message	/local/home/ftp/.login	login	all
> > message	/.login			login	all
> > And it doesn't work when the user logs in.  It does, however, display the
> > banner (before login) without trouble.
> Looks broken to me too.  And for some time.  Just tried it on beta-12 and
> get the same results.  'readme' works, 'message' doesn't.  Tried for anon
> and guestgroups, my current site config doesn't have any non-chroot'd
> users.  Maybe someone can test against beta 16 or 17 and with normal
> users?


The following seems to be working here on Solaris2.5.1 w/ beta16 for
anonymous and real logins:  
  message /welcome.msg login 
  message welcome.msg cwd=* 


FWIW--Good things take time. Testing takes even longer. Thanks for
your efforts Stan, Kent, and others who contribute to wu-ftpd.


If anyone here still uses "iisstat.pl" to generate statistics
and graphs, I've made some updates for our site.
For my changes/patches(?) and config file example, see
  ftp://ftp.acesag.auburn.edu/pub/unix/iisstat
For an example of stats produced, see
  http://www.acesag.auburn.edu/stats

The original iisstat.pl code is available from 
ftp://ftp.ccmail.com/pub/utils/InternetServices/iisstat/iisstat.html

-greg


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Bonjour

  I don't follow the In/Out's of Wu-Ftpd, but was quite please
to see the post from Mr Church.  Obviously the manner was rude.
But I applaude such initiative... It is a breath of fresh air.

I once received a long Email from Mr Landfield about a project
but no news since and no answers from him when asked.

Hopefully M. Church and his colleague could pump
some new blood into a dying code.

Keep it up.

-- 
au revoir, alain
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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Tue May 12 06:01:03 1998
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Helo, everybody!

I'd like to ask you what is the single-command-line bug 
(or crash-on-one-parameter bug). I didn't patch my 2.4.2-b16 
for this bug and I am not sure, whether I need to do so.

I looked at
ftp://achurch.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd/
but wasn't able to find the explanation there (only the patch).

Thanks in advance,
Martin





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Hello,

I am having a problem with wu-ftp 2.4.2, where I need to use multiple
incoming directories on the same ftp server, so that various people can
maintain their own incoming directories and I also want users to be able to
create directories within the incoming directories. In order to do this
safely we have to ensure that the new directory itself is created and
chowned.

Heres an exerpt from ftpaccess:

upload /export/ftp * no
upload /export/ftp /pub/www/incoming* yes www infoserv 0660 dirs

Now if an anonymous user wishes to put a whole load of files into
/pub/www/incoming, they normally create a directory say
/pub/www/incoming/myfiles/ to put the files in and to keep things tidy. I do
not know what the directory name is going to be beforehand. The myfiles
directory is created as owned by ftp, group other, I want it to be owned by
www, public write only, no public read access.

My second problem is that the files put in /pub/www/incoming/myfiles are not
chowned to www once they have been put in that directory, leaving the
directory owner (www) unable to delete files. Files placed in
/pub/www/incoming are correctly chowned after uploading.

Hope someone has some ideas how to get round this?

Thanks

Andy


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Hi Andy,

about two years ago, I modified beta13 to allow explicit specification 
of permissions and ownership of newly created directories.  I haven't
upgraded it later on because our ftp server runs Solaris 2.5.1 and I
can now obtain the desired behaviour--at least as far as is important
to me--with POSIX ACLs.


Anyhow, here is my patch, but remember, it was for beta13.

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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Tue May 12 09:17:22 1998
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Hi,

	If you specify only one option with ftpd then it won't 
	work. You have to specify atleast two option with ftpd.
	That's single-command-ling bug.

Regards,
Harshal
> 
> Helo, everybody!
> 
> I'd like to ask you what is the single-command-line bug 
> (or crash-on-one-parameter bug). I didn't patch my 2.4.2-b16 
> for this bug and I am not sure, whether I need to do so.
> 
> I looked at
> ftp://achurch.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd/
> but wasn't able to find the explanation there (only the patch).
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Tue May 12 09:17:27 1998
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>I'd like to ask you what is the single-command-line bug 
>(or crash-on-one-parameter bug). I didn't patch my 2.4.2-b16 
>for this bug and I am not sure, whether I need to do so.

     If you try starting an unpatched wu-ftpd 2.4.2b16 with a single
command-line parameter, like:

/usr/sbin/wu.ftpd -a

or

/usr/sbin/wu-ftpd -liao

then it will crash.  Stan says 2.4.2b17 (just released) is patched against
this bug.

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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Tue May 12 09:21:06 1998
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On Tue, 12 May 1998, Martin Vysohlid wrote:

> I'd like to ask you what is the single-command-line bug 
> (or crash-on-one-parameter bug). I didn't patch my 2.4.2-b16 
> for this bug and I am not sure, whether I need to do so.
> 
> I looked at
> ftp://achurch.dragonfire.net/wu-ftpd/
> but wasn't able to find the explanation there (only the patch).

You only absolutely need to patch if you're using exactly one command-line
parameter, typically just -a to use ftpaccess.  Since it's not unusual for
sites to also log the bug is avoided by using -a -l, which is probably
what the problem isn't more widely complained about.

Technically, the bug is a simple programming error.  You can see the
details by examining the available patches.  Basically a subroutine was
called to late and had to be moved up a bit so it's side effes wouldn't
bite other sections of code.

Beta 17 should fix the bug as well, but I've not yet had a chance to look
at beta-17 so I'm only going on what I've read in the announcement.

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Hi,

I got a problem with my deamon ftpd. When it starts, it had the UID 'nobody'
but in the inetd.conf, the UID written is 'root'.
So when a user other then 'anonymous' wanna login. he gets "Login failed"
I think it 's because the deamon can't read the password file.

Please HELPPPPPPP !!!

If you can help me, mail me back at smf01@infonie.fr





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Greetings.  Just signed on; don't know if this list 
is active or not :o)  Couldn't find archives on listproc.

Been using wu-ftpd for three years or so, but today is 
the first time I've tried to use the "upload" directives 
in the ftpaccess file.  I added the following line, which 
I would think would apply to anonymous users only:

 upload  /home1/ftp  /* yes  nobody  users   0060  nodirs

Well, anonymous uploads /do/ get created as user "nobody", 
group "users", mode 0600, and MKDIR is disallowed.

However, the "nodirs" flag is restricting "real" users from 
creating directories as well, although the rest of 
the line has no effect (i.e. permissions/ownership are those 
of the real user).

I thought that ftpd looked up the supplied username 
in /etc/passwd, and if that user's home directory matched 
that given above (e.g. /home1/ftp) then that "upload" line 
would apply?  That would seem to restrict the above to the 
user "ftp" (and "anonymous") only.  Am I reading the 
manpage wrong?

This is wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ[BETA-11](3).

Thanks.

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Hi all,

Is there a way to limit the maximum amount of time a user may be logged in
via ftp?  I can see many people are using clients that sends a NOOP to my
server and hogging up a ftp slot even though they are simply idling and not
doing anything.  Thanks for any help and/or info.



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On Tue, 12 May 1998, David Carmean wrote:

> Couldn't find archives on listproc.

Archives are at the Resource Center.

> I thought that ftpd looked up the supplied username 
> in /etc/passwd, and if that user's home directory matched 
> that given above (e.g. /home1/ftp) then that "upload" line 
> would apply?  That would seem to restrict the above to the 
> user "ftp" (and "anonymous") only.  Am I reading the 
> manpage wrong?

No, wu-ftpd simply matches the path and file name for the uploaded file.
Real users will need to upload into another area.

> This is wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ[BETA-11](3).

The current version is 2.4.2 beta 17, you should upgrade due to serious
security issues resolved in versions following beta 11.

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
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Hi,

Is it possible to only allow local users in their homedir? These users
only have ftp access and I don't want them to look around on the
system. I've heared something about chrooted enviroment but I
can't find any good FAQs on how to set it up! Can someone tell
me exactly how to do this? Thanks in advance...

Regards,

Erwin

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On Thu, 14 May 1998, Erwin van Kroonenburg wrote:

> Is it possible to only allow local users in their homedir? These users
> only have ftp access and I don't want them to look around on the
> system. I've heared something about chrooted enviroment but I
> can't find any good FAQs on how to set it up! Can someone tell
> me exactly how to do this? Thanks in advance...

Sure, read the FAQ and the guest howto

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd FAQ:              http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/


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There is a portability problem with beta17 and non-Redhat releases of Linux.
There is a workaround for this posted on the wu-ftpd bugs page at this URL:
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Thanks to those that have reported this problem. 

PLEASE check this page before reporting bugs. There is no need to report
this particular bug again.


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Greetings:

I've just compiled wu-ftpd b17 on my Solaris 2.6 x86 box.  Anonymous access
and virtual anonymous access is working fine.  However, real users cannot
log in.

I've followed the threads about inetd problems and the single command line
bug in b16.  I don't believe the "exiting on signal 11" problem I'm
experiencing with b17 is related to either of these.

In /etc/inetd.conf, I have:

ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/in.ftpd       in.ftpd -a
-i -l -o

When I use that, real users can't log in.  If I remove the -a and restart
inetd, real uses CAN log in.  So, the -a forces ftpd to use the ftpaccess
file.  This is the same file I've been using for b13 on up.

My two questions.. what has changed, and why am I getting the signal 11
errors when a real user tries to connect?  In addition to the above, I do
have an /etc/shells that has the appropiate lines and proper permissions set.

Any suggestions/assistance would be greatly appreciated.


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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Thu May 14 15:42:46 1998
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     We need to install a ftpd server that allow us to configure what
directorys are availables for what users for put and get. Do you have any
suggestions?



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Thanks to all,

the problem has been solved :-)

The hint from Chris made me look at my ISDN-Router, which provides
the Address-Translation on a port by port basis. The Router did
close the ftp-control-port after the default 3600 seconds and never
opened it again. Changing this value to 3h solved the problem.
The Router is from BinTec (www.bintec.de) and it doesn´t matter which 
model, because they all have similar software.

	Thilo

At 15:45 09.05.1998 -0400, you wrote:
>
>----------- Original message follows -----------
>Hi,
>
>I´m providing ftp service for a limited group. The files are usually very big
>and the transfer is done via ISDN line. The problem I have is that for me
>the transfer was successful (correct line in xferlog, download time looks ok)
>but the last part of the file doesn´t reach the partner. The syslog (debug
all)
>shows "transfer complete" but also "lost connection".
>Is there any hint to look on either my or the partners side ?
>
>    Thilo
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Thilo Hospe                      thilo@hcc.rhein-main.de
>Frankfurt am Main                   (voice) 069 / 637913
>
>----------- End of original message -----------
>Assuming the ftpd is configured and working properly, take a close
>look at the firewalls at the ftp site and client site.  Several NAT 
>(address
>translation) processes have a major ftp bug.  
>
>In short, the ftp  protocol uses two ports (20 and 21). The ftp 
>communication
>starts on port 21 and switches to port 20 (data) when downloading.  
>The bug in some firewalls is the port 21 connection is cleared from the
>NAT cache, thus the FTP data connection completes,
>but the client never gets the end of file marker.  The downloaded file is
>normally only a few bites smaller than the ftp site file.
>
>I mention NAT because you're in Germany and local ISPs are VERY strict
>about handing out full Class C subnets.  As such, either you or a client
>may be using address translation.
>
>Chris Strong
>IT Manager
>ON Technology
>Net Mail: cstrong @ on.com
>Web site: www.on.com
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------
Thilo Hospe                      thilo@hcc.rhein-main.de
Frankfurt am Main                   (voice) 069 / 637913


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On Thu, 14 May 1998 FPieress@ta.telecom.com.ar wrote:

>      We need to install a ftpd server that allow us to configure what
> directorys are availables for what users for put and get. Do you have any
> suggestions?
> 
> 
> 


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Well, it's a bit off topic, but Differential Inc. is searching for
a wu-ftpd "expert" to join our software engineering team in
Cupertino California (Silicon Valley, near San Jose).

If you or a friend knows the wu-ftpd source base or is very
familliar with configuration and operation of the software,
please get in touch.

We are seeking an individual who knows C, C++, UNIX, security,
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Please send your resume to jobs@differential.com or 
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Sincerely,
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Dear wu-ftpd experts,

Is anyone familliar with any Year 2000 issues in the wu-ftpd source?
I am told that Y2K issues were "solved" in Beta 16.  What are
the issues with older versions like Beta 12 or Beta 14???

Thanks
jevans@differential.com


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Are there any immediate plans to implement some sort of quota/disk space
control in wu-ftpd?  Though it would be sensible to integrate this support
into what the OS supports, I think that having a separate control would be
useful as well.  For example:  someone's FTP homedir is on the same
filesystem as /local, and you don't want to implement quotas, but want to
control disk space usage in the FTP area (prevent denial of service on disk
space, perhaps).  This would probably require a separate configuration
directive, such as:

	quota	/local/home/ftp	/users/joeschmoe	10M

with the present ftpaccess file format, that is.

Perhaps if the configuration gets changed to BIND-8.x.x style, it might end
up being on a per directory basis in braces:

	directory	/users/joeschmoe	{  	// relative to FTPROOT/FTPHOME
		quota	10M;
		uploads	/incoming:0600:joeschmoe:users;	// some form to control perms and
direction
		[ ... ]
	}


Forrie



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Would this not be better handled at the File System level?
Use joeschmoe_ftp (same uid) with a tighter quota or something
like that?

Given how stateless ftpd tends to be, counting system space
use every time someone 'puts' a file would just become an
I/O nightmare for most large sites.

It is claimed, but unverified, that Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> 
> Are there any immediate plans to implement some sort of quota/disk space
> control in wu-ftpd?  Though it would be sensible to integrate this support
> into what the OS supports, I think that having a separate control would be
> useful as well.  For example:  someone's FTP homedir is on the same
> filesystem as /local, and you don't want to implement quotas, but want to
> control disk space usage in the FTP area (prevent denial of service on disk
> space, perhaps).  This would probably require a separate configuration
> directive, such as:
> 	quota	/local/home/ftp	/users/joeschmoe	10M
> with the present ftpaccess file format, that is.
> 
> Perhaps if the configuration gets changed to BIND-8.x.x style, it might end
> up being on a per directory basis in braces:
> 
> 	directory	/users/joeschmoe	{  	// relative to FTPROOT/FTPHOME
> 		quota	10M;
> 		uploads	/incoming:0600:joeschmoe:users;	// some form to control perms and
> direction
> 		[ ... ]
> 	}

I must say, it's harder to parse, initially, but more readable and
flexible a setup.  Did the BIND folks leave any useful routines
around like  an API including the ever useful routine:
"read_this_conf_and_leave_it_in_the_structure_of_linked_structures()"?

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I'm getting the following errors when compiling ftpd:

Undefined                       first referenced
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snprintf                            ftpd.o
vsnprintf                           ftpd.o

This is when compiling ftpd.

Any clues?

Wally Winzer Jr.


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Hi,

3 days ago I installed wu-ftpd on 2 FreeBSD (2.1.6 and 2.2.2) boxes,
and on a Redhat 4.1 Linux. All work fine.

However, on the FreeBSD boxes I get a junk last(1) output (see below),
with a lot of  "still login in" connections, which is totally wrong
(tested with netstat).

Do I miss something ?

Tia


Meir
ps: please cc to meir@bis.co.il, thanks

Output of last:

ftp27186           ftp              Mon Oct 11 19:20   still logged in
ttyp1                               Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ttyp1              user1            Thu Jan  1 02:01   still logged in
ttyp0              user2            Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ttyp0                               Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid   meir                      Sat Jun  3 18:41 - 15:24  (19:42)
AÖZ5ftp1           5450ftp          Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 02:00  (00:00)
5448      >ÖZ5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
vid                                 Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 06:43
(9600+03:43)
ftp15171                            Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 19:20
(18911+17:20)
ftp       ftp                       Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid                             Thu Jun  1 11:47 - 12:37  (23:49)
YŤZ5ftp1           4975             Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
4975meir  YŞZ5ftp1                  Wed Mar 18 05:56   still logged in
ftp14688                            Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ftp       ftp                       Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid                             Tue Aug 22 04:43 - 10:55 (996+06:12)

k Z5ftp1           4688meir         Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in


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Hi,

3 days ago I installed wu-ftpd on 2 FreeBSD (2.1.6 and 2.2.2) boxes,
and on a Redhat 4.1 Linux. All work fine.

However, on the FreeBSD boxes I get a junk last(1) output (see below),
with a lot of  "still login in" connections, which is totally wrong
(tested with netstat).

It seems that wu-ftpd update weirdly the /var/log/wtmp file.
My version of wu-ftpd is wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1)

Do I miss something ?

Tia


Meir
ps: please cc to meir@bis.co.il, thanks


Output of last:

ftp27186           ftp              Mon Oct 11 19:20   still logged in
ttyp1                               Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ttyp1              user1            Thu Jan  1 02:01   still logged in
ttyp0              user2            Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ttyp0                               Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid   meir                      Sat Jun  3 18:41 - 15:24  (19:42)
AÖZ5ftp1           5450ftp          Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 02:00  (00:00)
5448      >ÖZ5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
vid                                 Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 06:43
(9600+03:43)
ftp15171                            Thu Jan  1 02:00 - 19:20
(18911+17:20)
ftp       ftp                       Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid                             Thu Jun  1 11:47 - 12:37  (23:49)
YŤZ5ftp1           4975             Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
4975meir  YŞZ5ftp1                  Wed Mar 18 05:56   still logged in
ftp14688                            Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
ftp       ftp                       Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in
irdavid                             Tue Aug 22 04:43 - 10:55 (996+06:12)

k Z5ftp1           4688meir         Thu Jan  1 02:00   still logged in





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I've got a client looking to set up an externally accessible ftp server on
an RS6000.

I've suggested a 43P (shouldn't be getting hit too hard), with wu-ftpd,
however the client is "uncomfortable" at this point because wu-ftpd is
public domain (non-commercial).

Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? I am also
attempting to build a case for using it anyway. Is there a list of some of
the major sites running wu-ftpd, particularly commercial businesses with
rather stringent security requirements. I'm well aware of the wonderfully
stable qualities of wu-ftpd, and know any problems arising are quickly
resolved, but I'm trying to address some political issues here. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Please copy me, and not just mailing list, on any responses as I'm just
now subscribing and not active yet. Thanks.

Steve
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> 
> I've got a client looking to set up an externally accessible ftp server on
> an RS6000.
> 
> I've suggested a 43P (shouldn't be getting hit too hard), with wu-ftpd,
> however the client is "uncomfortable" at this point because wu-ftpd is
> public domain (non-commercial).

You can tell him that Prodigy Internet uses wu-ftpd on multiple 43P's and in
1.5 years we haven't had a problem.  

-Ben 

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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Mon May 18 13:49:12 1998
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It is claimed, but unverified, that Steve wrote:
> I've got a client looking to set up an externally accessible ftp server on
> an RS6000.
> 
> I've suggested a 43P (shouldn't be getting hit too hard), with wu-ftpd,
> however the client is "uncomfortable" at this point because wu-ftpd is
> public domain (non-commercial).
> 
> Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? I am also
> attempting to build a case for using it anyway. Is there a list of some of
> the major sites running wu-ftpd, particularly commercial businesses with
> rather stringent security requirements. I'm well aware of the wonderfully
> stable qualities of wu-ftpd, and know any problems arising are quickly
> resolved, but I'm trying to address some political issues here. Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.

Ah, the political part of the seven layer stack, above application
and financial :) (see http://www.zeitgeist.com/FunStuff/layers.gif).

You COULD check out ncftpd (hit yahoo or similiar) which IS commercial.

Or you could look at the fact that it's tough to make wu-ftpd
commercial because it's been developed and helped by SO many
people.

For example, the s/key stuff wasn't working right (skey is a one
time password mechanism that prevents clear-text passwords from
being used over the net).

I found the problems and fixed them.  That's now part of the current
release.

Would I/Could I do the same for a "commercial version"?
Er, no, I couldn't.  That is, in fact, why I used the wustl
version.  Sun wasn't going to do it with lots of $$$$ and the
didn't have the access control we needed anyway.

Big companies?  Where I am I think of Wall St.  I might mention
JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley (ms.com) or other Wall St firms using
it, but you could just ftp there and see for yourself.
UU.NET might be using it (billions of users/week) as might PSI,
ANS, the Well, Interport.net  and a billion ISP's who RELY on it
for their business.
BSDi definitely does (though 4.0 will use the 4.4 server).
Ripe.net does (you know, the IP address folks?).
Linux uses it, so that's 5-10 million right there (including
ftp-eng.cisco.com)
Veritas.Com, Adobe and the Quicken site (ftp.quicken.com).
The Big 3 car folks?  They don't have ftp server (but they're
trying to weld them together now).

Need I continue?

But yeah, it's probably not as good as the OS's server.  You don't
want upload control, strong access controls, responses to bugs
(if I core dump your OS's server (likely in the ~ftp directory),
I likely get the password file in the core, readable by me.
oops).  I haven't found vendors quick to fix this, er, little
problems.

chuck

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At 11:24 AM 5/18/98 -0500, Steve wrote:
>I've got a client looking to set up an externally accessible ftp server on
>an RS6000.
>
>I've suggested a 43P (shouldn't be getting hit too hard), with wu-ftpd,
>however the client is "uncomfortable" at this point because wu-ftpd is
>public domain (non-commercial).
>
>Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? 

Steve,

The commercial implementation of wu-ftpd is called "FileDrive"
and is available at www.filedrive.com

FileDrive is availabe in 3 versions:
 - FileDrive server: commercial version of wu-ftpd with performance
                     enhancements and Web-based administration interface.
 - FileDrive SX server: secure version of FileDrive, with encryption,
                     digital certificates, security auditing system.
 - FileDrive EX server: the high-end Extranet FTP server with security, 
                     high-performance and extensibility APIs.

Sincerely,
David Jevans
Differential, Inc
www.differential.com

Accelerating Enterprise Commerce 
  with Extranet Technology



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Not to mention a recent CERT advisory recommending use of wu-ftpd beta 16
for system security issues.  Or that CERT's ftp site itself uses it:

Connected to ps2.cert.org.
220 ps2.cert.org FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1) Wed Mar
25 08:47:01 EST 1998) ready.

On Mon, 18 May 1998, chuck wrote:

> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:31:07 -0400 (EDT)
> From: chuck <Chuck@Yerkes.com>
> To: srusso@spirenet.com
> Cc: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
> Subject: Re: References
> 
> It is claimed, but unverified, that Steve wrote:
> > I've got a client looking to set up an externally accessible ftp server on
> > an RS6000.
> > 
> > I've suggested a 43P (shouldn't be getting hit too hard), with wu-ftpd,
> > however the client is "uncomfortable" at this point because wu-ftpd is
> > public domain (non-commercial).
> > 
> > Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? I am also
> > attempting to build a case for using it anyway. Is there a list of some of
> > the major sites running wu-ftpd, particularly commercial businesses with
> > rather stringent security requirements. I'm well aware of the wonderfully
> > stable qualities of wu-ftpd, and know any problems arising are quickly
> > resolved, but I'm trying to address some political issues here. Any help
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Ah, the political part of the seven layer stack, above application
> and financial :) (see http://www.zeitgeist.com/FunStuff/layers.gif).
> 
> You COULD check out ncftpd (hit yahoo or similiar) which IS commercial.
> 
> Or you could look at the fact that it's tough to make wu-ftpd
> commercial because it's been developed and helped by SO many
> people.
> 
> For example, the s/key stuff wasn't working right (skey is a one
> time password mechanism that prevents clear-text passwords from
> being used over the net).
> 
> I found the problems and fixed them.  That's now part of the current
> release.
> 
> Would I/Could I do the same for a "commercial version"?
> Er, no, I couldn't.  That is, in fact, why I used the wustl
> version.  Sun wasn't going to do it with lots of $$$$ and the
> didn't have the access control we needed anyway.
> 
> Big companies?  Where I am I think of Wall St.  I might mention
> JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley (ms.com) or other Wall St firms using
> it, but you could just ftp there and see for yourself.
> UU.NET might be using it (billions of users/week) as might PSI,
> ANS, the Well, Interport.net  and a billion ISP's who RELY on it
> for their business.
> BSDi definitely does (though 4.0 will use the 4.4 server).
> Ripe.net does (you know, the IP address folks?).
> Linux uses it, so that's 5-10 million right there (including
> ftp-eng.cisco.com)
> Veritas.Com, Adobe and the Quicken site (ftp.quicken.com).
> The Big 3 car folks?  They don't have ftp server (but they're
> trying to weld them together now).
> 
> Need I continue?
> 
> But yeah, it's probably not as good as the OS's server.  You don't
> want upload control, strong access controls, responses to bugs
> (if I core dump your OS's server (likely in the ~ftp directory),
> I likely get the password file in the core, readable by me.
> oops).  I haven't found vendors quick to fix this, er, little
> problems.
> 
> chuck
> 


----

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1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195


From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Mon May 18 22:28:48 1998
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At 11:24 AM 5/18/98 -0500, Steve wrote:
>Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? I am also
>attempting to build a case for using it anyway. Is there a list of some of
>the major sites running wu-ftpd, particularly commercial businesses with
>rather stringent security requirements.

I personally consider wu-ftp to have too many features to
be considered secure by construction.  (What's that
crazy site exec command for, anyway?)

If you can live with fewer features, you might find 
other ftpd's to be more secure.  A few I've looked
at briefly are Proftpd (http://www.proftpd.org),
ncftpd (http://www.probe.net/~mgleason/ncftpd/),
and Troll ftpd (http://www.troll.no/freebies/ftpd.html).
None of these meet my particular needs, so I'm still looking;
I'll add links to any more I find at my summary page,
http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~dank/fixing-overloaded-web-server.html

- Dan

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Hello :


   I  have just download a Wu-ftpd-2.4.2 Beta-17  and compiling it .

   I am using a SPARC 20 with solaris 2.5.1 installed , I use SUN visual 
workshop as my C compiler .

   I have configed the wu-ftpd as I did before ( beta-16) , but when I 
build  sol , the ftpd has fatal errror  , I am not clear how to adjust
it .

   


   the following is the messages :

--------------------------
$ build sol
make args are : 
make opts are : 

 ....... ( all goes fine ) 



/disk2/pkg/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -g -I.. -I../support -L../support  -c 
sigfix.c

/disk2/pkg/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -g -I.. -I../support -L../support -o ftpd
ftpd.o ftpcmd.o glob.o logwtmp.o popen.o vers.o access.o  extensions.o 
realpath.o acl.o private.o authenticate.o conversions.o hostacc.o 
sigfix.o -lsupport -lsocket -lnsl -lgen
ild: (Performing full relink) too many files changed
ild: (undefined symbol) snprintf -- referenced in the text segment of
ftpd.o
ild: (undefined symbol) vsnprintf -- referenced in the text segment of
ftpd.o
*** Error code 5
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ftpd'


Making ftpcount.
/disk2/pkg/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -g -I.. -I../support -L../support -o
ftpcount ftpcount.c vers.o -lsupport -lsocket -lnsl -lgen 

Making ftpshut.
/disk2/pkg/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -g -I.. -I../support -L../support -o
ftpshut ftpshut.c vers.o -lsupport -lsocket -lnsl -lgen

Making ckconfig.
/disk2/pkg/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc -g -I.. -I../support -L../support -o
ckconfig ckconfig.c
ln: cannot create ftpwho: File exists
ln: cannot create ckconfig: File exists

Links to executables are in bin directory:
bin/ftpd: 251840 + 31544 + 15472 = 298856
bin/ftpcount: 9463 + 795 + 865 = 11123
bin/ftpshut: 7560 + 634 + 338 = 8532
bin/ftpwho: 9463 + 795 + 865 = 11123
bin/ckconfig: 4873 + 572 + 320 = 5765
Done




------------------------



  thank you very much and long for your help !


Jing Shen

Mail to:  sj@china.pages.com.cn

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I am running wu-ftpd on sparc 20. Today, I shut the ftp archive down for
modification using "ftpshut", after modification, I delete the /etc/shutmsg
which is used by "shutdown" in "ftpaccess" file, and send "kill -HUP 'pid of
inetd'" to restart the ftpd server.

But when I ftp to it, first I saw message 220 host FTP server ready, but
after I type the user name and return, I got a message like: "421 Service
not available, remote server has closed connection ".

Anybody knows what's the reason, please send me a mail. Thanks in advance.

John



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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Hello all,

I was able to compile beta16 find but I get this when trying to compile
beta17.
continuum:~/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-17# build lnx
make args are :
make opts are :

Linking Makefiles.

Making support library.
gcc  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe   -c strcasestr.c
gcc  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe   -c authuser.c
gcc  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe   -c snprintf.c
rm -f libsupport.a
ar cq libsupport.a strcasestr.o authuser.o snprintf.o
ranlib libsupport.a

Making ftpd.
gcc -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -I.. -I../support
- -L../support -s   -c ftpd.c -o ftpd.o
ftpd.c: In function `main':
ftpd.c:385: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
ftpd.c: In function `statcmd':
ftpd.c:2719: `bytesize' undeclared (first use in this function)
ftpd.c:2719: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ftpd.c:2719: for each function it appears in.)
make: *** [ftpd.o] Error 1

Anyone know how this can be fixed?  I am using Slackware Linux 3.4 (gcc
2.8.1 (linuxthreads))


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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Tue May 19 17:21:37 1998
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We could also toss in Venema's ftpd from the logdaemon
package (with a VERY useful login replacement that supports
SKey or Challenge response devices).

It too goes on the minimal is best mode.

Realistically, if it's a paranoid site, I chroot wufp in
inetd.conf (via a wrapper) and have the data on a r/w partition
and the rest on a R/O partition.  FTP's home is "/" (after
chroot) and the password file is about as valid as any anon-ftp
password file (you can get it, but will what's the message after
you crack those passwords and do I care?)

It is claimed, but unverified, that Dan Kegel wrote:
> 
> At 11:24 AM 5/18/98 -0500, Steve wrote:
> >Is there such a beast as a commercial implementation of wu-ftpd? I am also
> >attempting to build a case for using it anyway. Is there a list of some of
> >the major sites running wu-ftpd, particularly commercial businesses with
> >rather stringent security requirements.
> 
> I personally consider wu-ftp to have too many features to
> be considered secure by construction.  (What's that
> crazy site exec command for, anyway?)
> 
> If you can live with fewer features, you might find 
> other ftpd's to be more secure.  A few I've looked
> at briefly are Proftpd (http://www.proftpd.org),
> ncftpd (http://www.probe.net/~mgleason/ncftpd/),
> and Troll ftpd (http://www.troll.no/freebies/ftpd.html).
> None of these meet my particular needs, so I'm still looking;
> I'll add links to any more I find at my summary page,
> http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~dank/fixing-overloaded-web-server.html

From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May 20 06:10:31 1998
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Hi,

3 days ago I installed wu-ftpd on 2 FreeBSD (2.1.6 and 2.2.2) boxes,
and on a Redhat 4.1 Linux. All work fine.

However, on the FreeBSD boxes I get a junk last(1) output (see below),
with a lot of  "still login in" connections, which is totally wrong
(tested with netstat). Also, the last(1) output on the Linux box is ok.

It seems that wu-ftpd update weirdly the /var/log/wtmp file.
My version of wu-ftpd is wu-ftpd-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1)

Do I miss something ?

Tia


Meir
ps: please cc to meir@bis.co.il, thanks


Output of last:

=D`5ftp1           381              Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
381       Ë<`5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
Ę<`5ftp1  114.42   262              Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
262       Ę<`5ftp1                  Tue Jul 26 15:52   still logged in
ftp1259                             Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
114.42    192.115. Č<`5ftp1259      Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
Č<`5ftp1           258              Thu Jan  1 00:00 - 02:49 (41+02:49)
257       Č<`5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
ftp1255            ftp              Sun Jul 24 09:49   still logged in
.<`5ftp1           242              Thu Jan  1 00:00 - 14:24 (39+14:24)
225       .<`5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
ftp1218                             Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
<`5ftp1  114.42   219              Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
219       <`5ftp1                  Tue Jul 26 15:52   still logged in
ftp1216            ftp              Sun Jul 24 09:49   still logged in
<`5ftp1           212              Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
214       <`5ftp1                  Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
ftp1206   42                        Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
ftp       ftp                       Mon Jul 25 21:40   still logged in
,.`5ftp9  pc       49               Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
49        (`5ftp9                  Fri Feb 25 02:24   still logged in
ftp685             ftp              Fri Oct 22 08:29 - 07:10  (22:41)
pc        avraham- č`5ftp584       Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
-`5ftp5           84               Thu Jan  1 00:00 - 03:42  (03:42)
^`5ttyp  t        1                Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
3`5ttyp           1                Fri May 16 06:57   still logged in
V`5ttyp           1                Wed Mar 18 03:56   still logged in
8`5ttyp           1                Thu Jan  1 00:00 - 03:56 (76+03:56)
¤`5ttyp           1                Wed Mar 18 03:56   still logged in
?`5{                               Thu Jan  1 00:00 - 03:56 (76+03:56)
<                                   Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
ń˙_5ttyp  tlv.netv 1                Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in
şů_5ttyp           1                Fri Jul 29 02:57   still logged in
9952      Yů_5ftp2                  Thu Jan  1 00:00   still logged in



From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May 20 08:00:52 1998
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On the note of newer configuration formats... I ran across another wu-ftpd
spinoff called "proftpd", http://www.proftpd.org/.  They have added some
interesting features and a somewhat different, apache-like,
configuration... all in one file.

Might be good to peek at.  I don't think this spinoff is getting much
development, though.


Forrest



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At 08:52 AM 5/20/98 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

>On the note of newer configuration formats... I ran across another wu-ftpd
>spinoff called "proftpd", http://www.proftpd.org/.  They have added some
>interesting features and a somewhat different, apache-like,
>configuration... all in one file.
>
>Might be good to peek at.  I don't think this spinoff is getting much
>development, though.

Quite the contrary... I'm in contact with one of the people that
contributes to it, who is in contact with the original author.  I was
having problems getting it to compile on Solaris 2.6 x86, and had a patch
within a few minutes.  They are actively working on it.

The apache like config files give you a lot of flexibility, but can be
confusing at first if you're not already familiar with apache.  The nice
thing about proftpd is that you do not need the typical /bin, /dev, /etc,
and /usr directories for each anon-ftp hiearchy as you do in wu-ftpd.  I
wouldn't use it for a production box just yet.. but if it keeps going as it
is I will switch.

BTW, I posted previously about problems with wu-ftpd b17 sigsev'ing on my
Solaris 2.6 x86 box.  I don't know what changed, but I stopped getting
those messages and everything appears to work properly now.  Very weird.


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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May 20 09:40:13 1998
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when I try to build I get the following errors in the "Making ftpd" section
of the build.  If anyone has a suggestion or a fix for this please let me
know.

I am building it on a AIX 4.1.5 machine

thanks in advance.




> ./build aix

make args are : 
make opts are : 

Linking Makefiles.

Making support library.
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c getusershell.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c fnmatch.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c strcasestr.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c strsep.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c authuser.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG   -c strdup.c
        rm -f libsupport.a
        ar cq libsupport.a getusershell.o fnmatch.o strcasestr.o strsep.o
authuser.o strdup.o
        ranlib libsupport.a

Making ftpd.
        cc -O -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support -c ftpd.c
     554  1500-010: (W) WARNING in main: Infinite loop.  Program may not stop.
        yacc  ftpcmd.y
        mv y.tab.c ftpcmd.c
        cc -O -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support -c ftpcmd.c
"ftpcmd.y", line 371.18: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared identifier cmdtab.
"ftpcmd.y", line 383.26: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared identifier sitetab.
"ftpcmd.y", line 1057.36: 1506-280 (W) Function argument assignment between
types "void(*)(int)" and "void(*)()" is not allowed.
"ftpcmd.y", line 1519.1: 1506-343 (S) Redeclaration of print_groups differs
from previous declaration on line 683 of "ftpcmd.y".
"ftpcmd.y", line 1519.1: 1506-050 (I) Return type "void" in redeclaration
is not compatible with the previous return type "int".
make: The error code from the last command is 1.


Stop.

Making ftpcount.
        cc -O -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support -o ftpcount ftpcount.c
vers.o -lsupport
cc: 1501-228 input file vers.o not found
make: The error code from the last command is 252.


Stop.

Making ftpshut.
        cc -O -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support -o ftpshut ftpshut.c
vers.o -lsupport
cc: 1501-228 input file vers.o not found
make: The error code from the last command is 252.


Stop.

Making ckconfig.
        cc -O -DDEBUG -I.. -I../support -L../support -o ckconfig ckconfig.c
ln: ckconfig exists.  Specify -f to remove.

Links to executables are in bin directory:
size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/ftpd.
size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/ftpcount.
size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/ftpshut.
size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/ftpwho.
bin/ckconfig: 1460 + 1432 + 16 + 505 = 3413
Done 

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Hi,
I installed Wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-17 on Solaris 2.6. I created the directories:
	pub,etc,bin,dev
I have also copied/created files in the approariate directories as indicated
from "NOTES" accompanying the package and "anonymous-ftp-faq".

When I use ftp to login as anonymous user, I could see the directories as 
expected. However I could not see anything when I used ncftp. Could someone
pls advise on this?

Thank you.


Regards
Alan

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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Thu May 21 06:20:04 1998
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Hi,

i have a problem with the ls command for guest users..

The guest access is correct setupd ;)

So now if a guest user logs in the system nothing of his files are be
displayed.

I use wu-2.4.2-Beta13. can someone help me?

thx

	Tom




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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Thomas Marmetschke wrote:

> So now if a guest user logs in the system nothing of his files are be
> displayed.
> 
> I use wu-2.4.2-Beta13. can someone help me?

Read the FAQ and the guest howto referenced from it, check the permissions
on the directories.  If you're running a Sun, there's a special FAQ for
you referenced in the FAQ.  Also, you're running a very old version and
should consider upgrading to the latest. 

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd FAQ:              http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

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Gregory A Lundberg		Senior Partner, VRnet Company
1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195


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I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.  

I noted Kent's NEWVIRT40 stuff, but am not sure which is current and what
is what.


Thanks.



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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
> address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
> with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.  

It can't be done with any FTP server.  Try a web server instead and serve
the files as pages.

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1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195


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You can't do any type of "virtual serving" without unique IP numbers.
Kent Landfield  explained this to me when I asked the same question.
It is not the server restricting this, it is TCPIP. TCPIP communication
is done ONLY by IP number. His code works GREAT with
multiple IP numbers. By the way, a given machine can handle many
IP numbers.

Greg Piney
Sr. Software Engineer
The McGraw-Hill Companies

Gregory A Lundberg wrote:

> On Thu, 21 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
>
> > I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
> > address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
> > with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.
>
> It can't be done with any FTP server.  Try a web server instead and serve
> the files as pages.
>
> ----
>
> Gregory A Lundberg              Senior Partner, VRnet Company
> 1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
> Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195




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No, you -can- do "virtual" web servers without multiple IP addresses,
because the http protocol allows the client to tell the server the fully
qualified name of the server, and all the common browsers do that now.  Of
course you can still bind the server to multiple IP addresses if you have
them.  With FTP, the client doesn't give the server this information, so the
only way to do it is with the multiple IP addresses.

-Ben Mehlman
ben@staff.prodigy.com

> 
> You can't do any type of "virtual serving" without unique IP numbers.
> Kent Landfield  explained this to me when I asked the same question.
> It is not the server restricting this, it is TCPIP. TCPIP communication
> is done ONLY by IP number. His code works GREAT with
> multiple IP numbers. By the way, a given machine can handle many
> IP numbers.
> 
> Greg Piney
> Sr. Software Engineer
> The McGraw-Hill Companies
> 
> Gregory A Lundberg wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 21 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> >
> > > I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
> > > address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
> > > with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.
> >
> > It can't be done with any FTP server.  Try a web server instead and serve
> > the files as pages.
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Gregory A Lundberg              Senior Partner, VRnet Company
> > 1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
> > Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195
> 
> 
> 
> 


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ben@staff.prodigy.com   "Then why you don't stop it?" asks my mother.
                        And it's such a simple question.  -Amy Tan 

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Thats true... but a few months ago i was trying to figure out a way around
it... the only thing i came up with was user/pass differences: if your
giving the link on a web page, and your expect most of the people to click
on it.. you can just specify a different username in the url.. then have
the ftpd process it different based off username supplied.. of course this
would only work for anonymous sites... and for people who use cmd line
clients you would have to put a little notice up before login.. something
like 'user username X for access to site.X.com, username Y for access to
site.Y.com...' .....

Maybe i was smoking crack... :P

-mike


On Thu, 21 May 1998, Ben Mehlman wrote:

> 
> No, you -can- do "virtual" web servers without multiple IP addresses,
> because the http protocol allows the client to tell the server the fully
> qualified name of the server, and all the common browsers do that now.  Of
> course you can still bind the server to multiple IP addresses if you have
> them.  With FTP, the client doesn't give the server this information, so the
> only way to do it is with the multiple IP addresses.
> 
> -Ben Mehlman
> ben@staff.prodigy.com
> 
> > 
> > You can't do any type of "virtual serving" without unique IP numbers.
> > Kent Landfield  explained this to me when I asked the same question.
> > It is not the server restricting this, it is TCPIP. TCPIP communication
> > is done ONLY by IP number. His code works GREAT with
> > multiple IP numbers. By the way, a given machine can handle many
> > IP numbers.
> > 
> > Greg Piney
> > Sr. Software Engineer
> > The McGraw-Hill Companies
> > 
> > Gregory A Lundberg wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 21 May 1998, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> > >
> > > > I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
> > > > address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
> > > > with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.
> > >
> > > It can't be done with any FTP server.  Try a web server instead and serve
> > > the files as pages.
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Gregory A Lundberg              Senior Partner, VRnet Company
> > > 1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
> > > Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Prodigy Services Corp   the broken glass shards.  "I knew it would happen."
> ben@staff.prodigy.com   "Then why you don't stop it?" asks my mother.
>                         And it's such a simple question.  -Amy Tan 
> 


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I have recently set up a webserver allowing people to ftp in there own
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Okay, Im letting you guys in on a little secret:). We hacked wuftpd to do
virtuals based on the login name. 
What we do is chroot() to the virtual directory based on the login name. We
standardized our login names to
user_domainname, so in order for bob to ftp to foo.com he would have to
login as bob_foo.com. We split the login name at the "_" character and then
chroot() to the /virtuals/domainname directory. We are using the "_"
character because it fits in with our other login schemes but ..you can use
any character you wish. In my opinion the users email address would be the
perfect fit. So user bob would log in as bob@foo.com. If the directory
exists wuftpd chroots to the virtual domains directory. The authentication
is then based upon the chroot()/etc directory. This allows the domain to
have their own virtual users, anonymous users etc. Of course you will need
a /virtual/domainname/etc/passwd and /virtual/domain/etc/shells and a
statitically linked "ls" in /virtuals/domainname/bin, etc. Of course you
will have to give your virtual domains a cname for ftp.domainname to your
ftpserver. then have your ftp server mount the web server via nfs. If you
need more details shoot me an email. 
jpd

At 01:29 PM 5/21/98 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
>
>I want to virtually host a domain's ftp site, but not using a separate IP
>address, just the domain name.  How can this be accomplished (if at all)
>with the latest wu-ftpd-beta-17.  
>
>I noted Kent's NEWVIRT40 stuff, but am not sure which is current and what
>is what.
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>

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> I have recently set up a webserver allowing people to ftp in there own
> material.  I am wondering how I can restrict them to their own
> directories and subdirectories.  Currently they can look around wherever
> they please, and I want to stop this.
> Any Idea?

Read the guest howto referenced from the FAQ



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I believe the term is "sub-logins" or "sub-accounts" it's like a cross
between anonymous FTP and regular user accounts. I haven't done this,
but I've seen info about it.


--John


I have recently set up a webserver allowing people to ftp in there own
material.  I am wondering how I can restrict them to their own
directories and subdirectories.  Currently they can look around
wherever they please, and I want to stop this. Any Idea?

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On Thu, 21 May 1998, Miles Frederick wrote:

> I am looking for a way to enforce user upload / download ratio's with
> wu-ftpd, or possibly another server for use with Linux.  I heard there
> was a patch out there somewhere that will help me do this.  Please let
> me know if you have any ideas.. 

There is but I don't recall where.  I remember seeing a posting about it
over the past month or two, so you should check the mailing list archive
at the resource center.

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd FAQ:              http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Fri May 22 04:30:36 1998
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Hello:

  I have just noticed a strange phenomenon of wu-ftpd 2.4.2 Beta-16
, that :

    One of our clients who rent 10M disk space on our server to set up
its virtual server . 
    
    I set up his home dir and user name like the following :

    user name: linjing (UID 2008)
    group :   linjing  (GID 65543)
    home dir:  /disk5/s1/clients/linjing
    sh:   /bin/guestsh 

  /* guestsh is shell script which just let user  change their passwd */


   also , I copy the files and directorys under ~ftp  to its home
directory to facilitate the chroot .

   then I put the group linjing to ftpaccess's guestgroup defination .

   As  before , this will result user just can  ftp to his own
directory, can not go up to other directory .

   But this time , when I test this I found that :

---------------------------------------------------------------------
ftp> open china.pages.com.cn
Connected to china.pages.com.cn.
220 china FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1) Tue Jan 20
13:47:39 CST 1998) ready.
Name (china.pages.com.cn:sj): linjing
331 Password required for linjing.
Password:
230 User linjing logged in.  Access restrictions apply.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): No such file or directory.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't create data socket (0.0.0.0,20): No such file or directory.
ftp> bye
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

   I tried all the method mentioned in wu-ftpd FAQ and maillist , but
can not solve it . 
   So , I set up another  account for it :

    user name: linj (UID 2024)
    group :   lingrp (GID 2012)
    home dir:  /disk5/s1/clients/linj
    sh:   /bin/guestsh 

    and do as the last account .

   test it , all goes well ?! 



   I am really mysterious ! why ? Are there a name or group limit for 
wu-ftpd 2.4.2 Beta16 ? 
   

Jing Shen

Mail to:  sj@china.pages.com.cn

-- 
Jing Shen

Mail to:  sj@china.pages.com.cn

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I don't think so, but there IS a limit in unix- Group id is a uint16, so the
maximum value is 65535.

-Ben Mehlman
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> 
> 
>    I am really mysterious ! why ? Are there a name or group limit for 
> wu-ftpd 2.4.2 Beta16 ? 
>    
> 


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Hi, Im running beta15 on a Solaris 2.5.1 system. The regular expressions in 
the path-filters line works fine, except the <mesg> does not get displayed 
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path-filter <typelist> <mesg> <allowed_charset> {<disallowed>.....

My <mesg> is just a /etc/msg/filename with "Not allowed here"


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On Fri, 22 May 1998, Ben Mehlman wrote:

> I don't think so, but there IS a limit in unix- Group id is a uint16, so the
> maximum value is 65535.

And some systems (ie., Linux) behave strange if you use ID numbers 65534
and 65535.  Dunno about other systems, but I'd say keep the id numbers
smaller just to be sure .. you never know but what some software may
mistakenly assumes IDs are signed so I'd try to stay below 32767.

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How
Abraços, Carlo


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How configurate another areas in ~/ftp for some special users ?
(/etc/passwd ???  /etc/shadow ??? ftpaccess ??? etc)
Carlo


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Hi there,

I have to limit the number of times a particular user can login
simultaneously. The following patch extends the `class' command in
ftpaccess to allow definition of classes that define local users
(from the /etc/passwd and /etc/group files). I could not find another way
of doing this, so if there is one, please let me know.

I also have doc updates if you need them, and can do non-ansi 
protos also.

Hence an ftpaccess file can now contain, for example:

	class someclass group users

	limit someclass 1 Any /etc/ftplimited

or

	class someclass user harry

	limit someclass 1 Any /etc/ftplimited

BTW the man pages are not all that clear when it comes to the ftpaccess
file. Would you like me to send you a patch? Also, ftpd should report
errors saying where ftpaccess is bad, giving the line number. At the
moment it is difficult to detect an error. I can patch this also if
needed.

Many thanks

-paul

(PS: I am not on your mailing list.)



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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Sun May 24 03:39:00 1998
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From: Masachika ISHIZUKA <ishizuka@ish.org>
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  Hi.

  I'm using wu-ftpd 2.4.2.beta-16.
  This version of the server would use data ports in range
1024..4999(?) when a passive mode client requested a data
connection to the server.

  This patch is that the server will use data ports in range
49152..65535 in FreeBSD. If you want to use old range, specify
-U option.

================================================================
--- ftpd.c.orig	Mon Dec 22 08:25:06 1997
+++ ftpd.c	Sun May 24 17:07:40 1998
@@ -245,6 +245,7 @@
 #include <prot.h>
 #endif
 
+int restricted_data_ports = 1;
 int anonymous = 1;
 int guest;
 int type;
@@ -452,7 +453,7 @@
         envp++;
     LastArgv = envp[-1] + strlen(envp[-1]);
 
-    while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, ":aAvdlLiot:T:u:")) != -1) {
+    while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, ":aAvdlLioUt:T:u:")) != -1) {
         switch (c) {
 
         case 'a':
@@ -499,6 +500,10 @@
                 timeout = maxtimeout;
             break;
 
+	case 'U':
+	    restricted_data_ports = 0;
+	    break;
+
         case 'u':
             {
                 unsigned int val = 0;
@@ -3375,6 +3380,16 @@
         perror_reply(425, "Can't open passive connection");
         return;
     }
+#ifdef IP_PORTRANGE
+    {
+      int on = restricted_data_ports ? IP_PORTRANGE_HIGH
+	: IP_PORTRANGE_DEFAULT;
+      
+      if (setsockopt(pdata, IPPROTO_IP, IP_PORTRANGE,
+		     (char *)&on, sizeof(on)) < 0)
+	goto pasv_error;
+    }
+#endif
     pasv_addr = ctrl_addr;
     pasv_addr.sin_port = 0;
     delay_signaling(); /* we can't allow any signals while euid==0: kinch */

From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Mon May 25 02:07:45 1998
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Hello everybody,

I'm currently setting up an anonyumous ftpserver, using
wu-ftpd-2.6.0. I saw a nice feature at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu,
which shows anonymous user passwords (and only these) when
they are typed in. Can anybody tell me, how to enable the feature
or is it a 'special hack' or ... ?


thanx,
rweber


---
Robert Weber
Siemens Business Services
SBS CS M2 UWS

eMail: Robert.Weber@mch.sbs.de


From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Mon May 25 05:23:20 1998
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From: KHOO Guan Chen <khoogc@singnet.com.sg>
To: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
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Server is  Linux 4.2/kernel 2.0.32/wu-ftpd-2.4.2.beta 12

Help! I cannot connect ftp (using Fetch 3.0.1) from the mac (OS 8.0). I
can ftp localhost from the linux box (the /etc/hosts.allow has
in.ftpd:ALL) and the ethernet is working as I can serve the mac with
netatalk.

I used tcpdump on the ethernet interface and got this:-

15:34:25.435476 arp who-has 192.168.0.2 tell daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg
15:35:25.439481 arp who-has 192.168.0.2 tell daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg
15:36:20.813177 arp who-has 192.168.0.2 (Broadcast) tell 192.168.0.2
15:36:21.023191 arp who-has daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg 
(Broadcast) tell 192.168.0.2
15:36:21.023191 arp reply daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg is-at 0:0:c0:5f:bb:f0
15:36:21.033191 192.168.0.2.32768 > daisy.khoohouse.geylang.
sg.domain: 1+ (48) (DF)
15:36:21.033191 daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg > 192.168.0.2: icmp: daisy.
khoohouse.geylang.sg udp port domain unreachable [tos 0xc0]

(last 2 messages repeated 3 more times)


Any help appreciated. Thanks

Richard KHOO Guan Chen




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Folks ...

I am trying to interepret some data extracted from WUFTP log files and having a hard 
time.

Note that I am not running the software myself nor am I familiar with it in any detail.  
It's used on a public ftp site which supports downloads of our software, and we're 
trying to figure out the traffic level.  The ISP has sent us log file records that look like 
this:

  Sun May 3 01:10:46 1998 569     <filename>
  Sun May 3 01:11:27 1998 115     <filename>
  Sun May 3 01:11:33 1998 1094    <filename>
  etc.

They extracted this from the log file, leaving off any identity information to retain the 
anonymity.

The questions we are trying to sort out are (a) what is the number after the date and 
time, and (b) how does WUFTP log incomplete transfers?  Most (80%+) of the 
numeric values are far below the actual file sizes, and some are FAR above. The ISP 
(which generally ignores this log and therefore has no experience in interpreting it) 
says the number is a 1K block count for that download, and includes blocks sent for 
resends.  We don't believe that because it would require that 80%+ of the transfers 
were incomplete, and that a few are via connections so bad that resends would boost 
the transfer count to 8 or 10 times the file size.  It just doesn't make sense.

To try to sort it out I downloaded a copy of wuftp, decompressed the files, and looked 
at the xferlog man page.  It seems to say that the number recorded in the log file is a 
number of seconds for the transfer, not a block count.  While I still find it hard to 
believe that there would be, for example, an occasional download taking an hour or 
more for an 800K file, the numbers make a lot more sense as a nuber of seconds.

In order to sort this out, can somebody tell me (in addition to any thoughts on the 
above):

	- Is the "file size" value normally in the log a transfer count, or the total file
	  size (i.e. would it be different for incomplete transfers)?

	- Are incomplete transfers logged, or only complete ones?

Part of the reason for the second question is to interpret the difference between the 
number of log entries per day for each file vs. the rate at which people link to that file 
off our web site.  Statistically the log entries run at about 40% of the number of 
transfers we'd expect from the link counters we set up on the web site (and then 
there are some folks who go directly via an FTP client, so some of that 40% didn't 
even come off the web site).  However we have no way of knowing how many people 
never start the transfer, or abort it in the middle, and it would help to know what 
WUFTP is doing when the transfer is not completed.

Thanks for any info.


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Tom Rawson           trawson@jpsoft.com
JP Software          http://www.jpsoft.com/

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Hey,
I'm new to this list and unfamiliar with UNIX so excuse me if thsi topic
is too simple for this list ;.).

After installing wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16 the server (SGI Crimson with IRIX
5.2) doesn't end the ftpd processes and maybe starting new processing by
itself.

Can anyone help me with this (simple?) problem?

Regards,

Lars-Gunnar Persson


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On Mon, 25 May 1998, Tom Rawson wrote:

> I am trying to interepret some data extracted from WUFTP log files and
> having a hard time. 
> 
> Note that I am not running the software myself nor am I familiar with it
> in any detail.  It's used on a public ftp site which supports downloads
> of our software, and we're trying to figure out the traffic level.  The
> ISP has sent us log file records that look like this: 
> 
>   Sun May 3 01:10:46 1998 569     <filename>
>   Sun May 3 01:11:27 1998 115     <filename>
>   Sun May 3 01:11:33 1998 1094    <filename>
>   etc.
> 
> They extracted this from the log file, leaving off any identity
> information to retain the anonymity. 

How draconian.  Sorry, you'll need to ask the ISP since they've hacked the
log file.  If they can give you the real log file people can help, but
with what they're giving you, only they can tell you what it means.  IMHO
if they don't know how their own code works and what its output means then
what you need is a better ISP. 

> The questions we are trying to sort out are (a) what is the number after
> the date and time, and (b) how does WUFTP log incomplete transfers? 
> Most (80%+) of the numeric values are far below the actual file sizes,
> and some are FAR above. The ISP (which generally ignores this log and
> therefore has no experience in interpreting it) says the number is a 1K
> block count for that download, and includes blocks sent for resends.  We
> don't believe that because it would require that 80%+ of the transfers
> were incomplete, and that a few are via connections so bad that resends
> would boost the transfer count to 8 or 10 times the file size.  It just
> doesn't make sense. 
> 
> To try to sort it out I downloaded a copy of wuftp, decompressed the
> files, and looked at the xferlog man page.  It seems to say that the
> number recorded in the log file is a number of seconds for the transfer,
> not a block count.  While I still find it hard to believe that there
> would be, for example, an occasional download taking an hour or more for
> an 800K file, the numbers make a lot more sense as a nuber of seconds. 

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me given the way the Internet works and
the fact that you have no idea where the connection was from.  Again, only
the ISP can tell you that.

> In order to sort this out, can somebody tell me (in addition to any
> thoughts on the above): 
> 
> 	- Is the "file size" value normally in the log a transfer count,
> 	  or the total file size (i.e. would it be different for
> 	  incomplete transfers)? 

Bytes actually transferred, but at the TCP level so the ISPs statement
that it includes retransmissions is a load of b******t (or they're not
running wu-ftpd.

> 	- Are incomplete transfers logged, or only complete ones?

All, even incomplete.

> Part of the reason for the second question is to interpret the
> difference between the number of log entries per day for each file vs.
> the rate at which people link to that file off our web site. 
> Statistically the log entries run at about 40% of the number of
> transfers we'd expect from the link counters we set up on the web site
> (and then there are some folks who go directly via an FTP client, so
> some of that 40% didn't even come off the web site).  However we have no
> way of knowing how many people never start the transfer, or abort it in
> the middle, and it would help to know what WUFTP is doing when the
> transfer is not completed. 

Silly to think web accesses have anything to do with downloads.  First
off, a lot of people take a quick look to see if it's the download or more
information and abort the FTP session when it's not another page.  Second,
you're forgetting that there's a lot of web crawlers out there.

----

Gregory A Lundberg		Senior Partner, VRnet Company
1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
Kettering, OH 45409-1615 USA    1-800-809-2195


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Gregory A Lundberg wrote:

> How draconian.  Sorry, you'll need to ask the ISP since they've hacked the
> log file.  If they can give you the real log file people can help, but
> with what they're giving you, only they can tell you what it means.  IMHO
> if they don't know how their own code works and what its output means then
> what you need is a better ISP. 

Sorry, I didn't communicate it clearly.  They don't pay any attention to this log, I think 
the person who installed it is gone, the box is not their primary ftp server, and they 
don't worry about the traffic load on it.  They were quite clear about what info they 
had for us and why they didn't keep it more accurately, and that didn't bother me at 
all -- I might have done the same thing in their shoes.

As for the basic question -- it looks to me like wu-ftpd (which they are indeed 
running, seems like version wu-2.4(24)) logs two numeric values in the file, the 
number of seconds required for the transfer and the size of the file in bytes.  If I have 
a set of numbers, one per transfer, it has to be one of those (unless they massaged 
them, which I doubt -- but I can find out).  None of the numbers I've seen are big 
enough to be the byte count, so they pretty much have to be the number of seconds, 
unless wu-ftpd has changed what is logged and wu-2.4(24) logged something 
different.

> Silly to think web accesses have anything to do with downloads.  First
> off, a lot of people take a quick look to see if it's the download or more
> information and abort the FTP session when it's not another page.  Second,
> you're forgetting that there's a lot of web crawlers out there.

In this case it seems fair to me to look at the relationship between the two and 
question it if it is dramatically different.  The link on the web page exists only for 
downloads, and says so clearly.  Virtually no one is going to look there for another 
page.  People certainly might look and decide not to download, or abort the 
download, and that would make the ftp count lower than the web link count (thought I 
know of at least one browser -- Opera -- that starts the download in the background 
while it is waiting for you to decide what to do with the file).  Others might come to 
the ftp site directly which would increase the ftp count without increasing the web 
count, but that's not a big group.  But even with all that it's possible to do a reality 
check -- we are confident in the web site counters (our own) and if the ftp counts 
don't make some vague sense relative to the web counts, we need to question that 
before using them in decision-making about what our traffic load is.  If I saw ftp 
counts at 70% of the web counts, or 110%, I'd believe them, but 40% seems awfully 
low -- would 60+% of the users who select that link, which is clearly to download a 
file, and comes after navigating one or two levels down on the site, then abort the 
download?

As for the crawlers, will they generate a hit on a link to a cgi script?  I know what 
they do but little about how they do it.

The reason all this matters is that we are moving things around and the site to which 
we are moving them charges for traffic, as do many.  So we need to know the traffic 
load.  A factor of two is a factor of two different in our traffic cost and might be the 
difference between a dedicated server and a virtual host solution being the most cost-
effective.

Thanks for the help!


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Maybe in your unix... In mine (AIX) it's a ulong (gid_t). I think Solaris is as
well... (Actually solaris might be just a long, but it's definately 32 bits
long).
To be fair, SOME unixes have a 16 bit GID type, and UID type, but I haven't
seena  commercial one worth its salt that still has a 16 bit one (Except SunOS
4, and that's not it's fault it was dumped... I liked (And still do) SunOS 4).
 
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I don't think so, but there IS a limit in unix- Group id is a uint16, so the
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gate.mcc.net# !ftp
ftp 209.82.19.11
Connected to 209.82.19.11.
220 elm FTP server (Version wu-2.4(2) Mon Jun 2 12:37:12 EDT 1997) ready.
Name (209.82.19.11:root): 
221 Server shutting down.  Goodbye.



The above error message appears, despite going through all the setup steps I
could find on the 'net.  Where should I look now?

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
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On Wed, 27 May 1998, Hutchison, Jim wrote:

> 221 Server shutting down.  Goodbye.
> 
> The above error message appears, despite going through all the setup steps I
> could find on the 'net.  Where should I look now?

The FAQ would be good.

Try: rm -f /etc/ftpshut

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd FAQ:              http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

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1441 Elmdale Drive              lundberg@vr.net
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On Wed, 27 May 1998, Hutchison, Jim wrote:

> gate.mcc.net# !ftp
> ftp 209.82.19.11
> Connected to 209.82.19.11.
> 220 elm FTP server (Version wu-2.4(2) Mon Jun 2 12:37:12 EDT 1997) ready.
> Name (209.82.19.11:root): 
> 221 Server shutting down.  Goodbye.

> The above error message appears, despite going through all the setup steps I
> could find on the 'net.  Where should I look now?

Sorry for a maybe simple question - but did you remember to remove
/etc/shutmsg (or the shutdown file you have defined in /etc/ftpaccess) ?

If not, then remove it and your problem is solved :->


> Jim Hutchison

- Ville/viha@cryptlink.net [CryptLink Networking]


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I am running Solaris 2.51 with wu-ftpd Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1).

I am getting the following error messages:

May 27 08:51:03 ftpserver ftpd[8242]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:13 ftpserver ftpd[8228]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:29 ftpserver ftpd[8274]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:34 ftpserver ftpd[8345]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:05 ftpserver ftpd[8405]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:12 ftpserver ftpd[8291]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:12 ftpserver ftpd[8283]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:14 ftpserver ftpd[8378]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:29 ftpserver ftpd[8164]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:37 ftpserver ftpd[8340]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:53 ftpserver ftpd[8240]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:53 ftpserver ftpd[8189]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:53:43 ftpserver ftpd[8219]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:53:47 ftpserver ftpd[8215]: sleeping: fcntl lock of pid file
failed: Resource

I have tried to access the www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd site and it is offline
 for some reason.

Can anyone shed light on this issue?

Thanks,

David Hartt



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On Wed, 27 May 1998, David Hartt wrote:

> I have tried to access the www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd site and it is
> offline for some reason. 

Looks up to me.  You got network problems, maybe?

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# 
# On Wed, 27 May 1998, David Hartt wrote:
# 
# > I have tried to access the www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd site and it is
# > offline for some reason. 
# 
# Looks up to me.  You got network problems, maybe?

To be fair we were down here for a while. Network reorganization,
Oh Fun...

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Hi,

 Our Unix Administrator is on vacation so I'm filling in and I'm stuck.
Here is what I'm trying to do.

 We have a UNIX Sun box running 4.1.3(I don't know why haven't upgraded to
Solaris) where we run our mail server, web server, and also do some
development.  We also give customers access to the machine so that they can
FTP files to and from our company.  What I would like to do is pretty much
the same thing as having an anonymous account; allow customers to FTP to
the machine, but only allow them to see the anonymous directory and the
sudbirectories below.  The only thing that I want to be different is that I
want each client to have their OWN login and directory.  Each client should
NOT be able to see the other clients directories and files(I would be able
to use the anonymous account if this weren't a concern).  From what I
understand, when an anonymous user FTPs to a site, FTP will chroot to the
anonymous directory effectively making the anonymous directory root to the
anonymous user.

I downloaded and installed a copy of wu-ftpd which is supposed to do what I
want.  I bascially set up a clients directory as I would the anonymous
users (I make  etc,bin,usr,usr/lib subdirectories under the user's home
directory and also copy ls in the bin directory; I also create a dev
directory and do a mknod on tcp, and zero).  I make an /etc/ftpaccess file
in which the user's group in included in guestonly.  For example:

/etc/passwd
NGS:password:100:400:NGS Client:/p1/clients/NGS/./:bin/ftponly   /* I may
have forgotten the exact format*/

/etc/group
FTP:*:400:NGS

/etc/ftpaccess
guestonly FTP

I changed the in.ftpd line in /etc/inetd.conf to include the -a option.
>From what I read, this should do it.  When I FTP into our machine, I get
into /p1/clients/NGS, but FTP DOESN'T chroot to /p1/clients/NGS.  The "/./"
in /etc/passwd after the home directory should cause FTP to chroot to
/p1/clients/NGS, but for some reason it doesn't.  As a result, I can cd all
the way up to root.  Obviously this is not what I want to have happen.

At this point, I don't know what I've done incorrectly, or what else I need
to do.  I believe wu-ftpd is able to do what I want, but perhaps I'm
mistaken.  It seems that the only problem I'm facing is that FTP doesn't
chroot to /p1/clients/NGS, and once I can get it to do this, I should be
okay.  I should mention that I was able to get the NGS user to login and be
chrooted to their home directory.  I was able to accomplis this by writing
a small program that would determine a login users's ID and home directory,
change and chroot to the home directory, and finally set the ID to the
users's ID.  I called this program in place of using a shell in position 7
in /etc/passwd.  When I try this with FTP, FTP doesn't run the program.

So, if someone knows why this isn't working and what I need to do, please
let me know.

Thanks so much for your help!
Andy



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On Wed, 27 May 1998 Andy_Hering@forecross.com wrote:

>  We have a UNIX Sun box running 4.1.3(I don't know why haven't upgraded to
> Solaris) where we run our mail server, web server, and also do some
> development.  We also give customers access to the machine so that they can
> FTP files to and from our company.  What I would like to do is pretty much
> the same thing as having an anonymous account; allow customers to FTP to
> the machine, but only allow them to see the anonymous directory and the
> sudbirectories below.  The only thing that I want to be different is that I
> want each client to have their OWN login and directory.  Each client should
> NOT be able to see the other clients directories and files(I would be able
> to use the anonymous account if this weren't a concern).  From what I
> understand, when an anonymous user FTPs to a site, FTP will chroot to the
> anonymous directory effectively making the anonymous directory root to the
> anonymous user.

What you're looking to do is called 'guestgroup' and there's a howto
referenced from the FAQ which will lead you through it.  At first glance,
I wonder if you've got /bin/ftponly in /etc/shells, if the users are in a
real Unix group you'll be using to control the guest access, and if you've
added the guest group control statements to your ftpaccess.

Also, you'll want to check the FAQ and Resource Center for any platform-
specific information you'll need (I know there's some for Solaris).

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
wu-ftpd Resource Center:  http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
wu-ftpd FAQ:              http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
wu-ftpd list archive:     http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/

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I am running Solaris 2.51 with wu-ftpd Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1).

I am getting the following error messages:

May 27 08:51:03 ftpserver ftpd[8242]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:13 ftpserver ftpd[8228]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:29 ftpserver ftpd[8274]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:51:34 ftpserver ftpd[8345]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:05 ftpserver ftpd[8405]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:12 ftpserver ftpd[8291]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:12 ftpserver ftpd[8283]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:14 ftpserver ftpd[8378]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:29 ftpserver ftpd[8164]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:37 ftpserver ftpd[8340]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:53 ftpserver ftpd[8240]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:52:53 ftpserver ftpd[8189]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer
May 27 08:53:43 ftpserver ftpd[8219]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
reset by peer

Can anyone shed light on this issue?

Thanks,

David Hartt



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>I am running Solaris 2.51 with wu-ftpd Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1).
>
>I am getting the following error messages:
>
>May 27 08:51:03 ftpserver ftpd[8242]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Connection
>reset by peer

     That's perfectly ordinary; what it indicates is that the remote side
of the connection closed it before wu-ftpd had a chance to get the socket
information.  Of course, it _could_ indicate that someone's portscanning
you, but only if you see a bunch of other things like telnet complaining
about the same thing at the same time.  Normally I don't worry about them.

  --Andy Church                  | If Bell Atlantic really is the heart
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Dear All

I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Sun Sparc station with Solaris 2.4. I am
using the netscape Enterprise 2.0 web server for web hosting. I want to
make my ftp archive visible to web browser users. Currently when I access
the ftp archive with netscape/internet exploder, I see nothing - no
folders, no directories, nothing. 

Accessing the site by anonymous ftp or as a registered user works fine.

This is the permissions for the ftp folder:
dr-xr-xr-x  11 root     other        512 Dec 11 15:43 ftp

This is a listing of the folders under the ftp directory and their
permissions:

dr-xr-xr-x  11 root     other        512 Dec 11 15:43 .
drwxr-xr-x  20 clancy   other       2048 Apr 23 17:47 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root     other        170 Dec 10 17:06 .contents
-rw-r--r--   1 root     other        170 Dec 11 15:43 .message
-rw-r--r--   1 root     other        170 Dec 10 17:08 README
d--x--x--x   2 root     other        512 Dec 10 14:48 bin
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     other        512 Dec 10 12:48 dev
d--x--x--x   2 root     other        512 Dec  9 16:22 etc
drwx-wx-wt   2 root     other        512 Dec 10 17:09 incoming
dr--r--r--   2 root     other        512 Dec 10 14:48 info
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     other        512 Dec 10 14:48 lib
dr--r--r--   3 root     other        512 Dec 10 14:48 man
drwxr-xr-x   5 clancy   other        512 May 19 17:33 pub
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root     other        512 Nov 17  1996 usr

This is the situation under the pub directory:
total 132
drwxr-xr-x   5 clancy   other        512 May 19 17:33 .
dr-xr-xr-x  11 root     other        512 Dec 11 15:43 ..
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     other        170 Dec 10 17:09 README
drwxr-xr-x   2 clancy   other        512 Dec 10 16:34 chrom21
drwxr-xr-x   8 clancy   other        512 Dec 18 12:12 chrom3
drwxr-xr-x   6 clancy   users        512 Feb  9 20:40 consortium
-rw-r--r--   1 root     other      59484 May 19 17:28 druid_stuff.tar.Z.uu


What is the problem here? Do I have a permissions problem? What do I need
to do to make these files and folders visible to web browsers? 

Thanks for the help.

Sincerely

Kevin Clancy
Eleanor Roosevelt Institute
1899 Gaylord St.,
Denver, CO 80206

clancy@eri.uchsc.edu
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Kevin said :-
> I am running wu-2.4(2) on a Sun Sparc station with Solaris 2.4. I am
> using the netscape Enterprise 2.0 web server for web hosting. I want to
> make my ftp archive visible to web browser users. Currently when I access
> the ftp archive with netscape/internet exploder, I see nothing - no
> folders, no directories, nothing. 
> 
> Accessing the site by anonymous ftp or as a registered user works fine.
...snip...
> What is the problem here? Do I have a permissions problem? What do I need
> to do to make these files and folders visible to web browsers? 

I'm not sure if it is true for Solaris 2.4, but under 2.5 if you don't have
the permissions on ~ftp/dev/tcp set to 666, then passive connections don't
work.  Many web browsers use passive connections (not sure about MSIE), so
this could be the cause of the problem.

FYI, my Solaris 2.5 settings are :-
   ls -l ~ftp/dev
   total 0
   crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 42 Mar 13  1996 tcp
   crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other    105,  1 Oct 25  1996 ticotsord
   crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 14 Oct 25  1996 udp
   crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     13, 12 Mar 13  1996 zero
but I expect the major and minor numbers may vary for 2.4

The original Solaris man page for ftpd should list the files and settings
you need for anonymous access.  Check that your system conforms to these.

If you still see a problem after that, then the WU-FTPD FAQ is at
   http://www.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
the Solaris 2.5 how-to (may be similar enough to be relevant) is at
   http://www.wildheart.org/wu-ftpd/
and Kent Landfield's on-line resource center is at
   http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
Hopefully one of these will have some suggestions to help you find the
problem.

I hope this helps - good luck !

Cheers, Bob
-- 
Bob Luckin      bobl@ti.com      "Coder, adapt.  FTP Ada, redo C"
                                 [http://www.dhc.net/~luckin/palindromes.html]

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Hello, everyone,

I've just used the Solaris How-to Guide to
install wu-ftpd beta-17 on Solaris 2.4 and
am about to install the same on Solaris 2.6

Since I will be actively working on the Guide,
I'm open to hearing about changes and/or additions
you'd like to see. I will incorporate as many of
them as I'm able.

The current version is at:

http://www.wildheart.org/wu-ftpd/

Now I have a question that hopefully someone can answer.
The last several times that I have used "./build sol" to
build wu-ftpd with gcc on Solaris 2.x, I have had to run
the "build" script twice: once to get the Makefiles generated
(and then the script bombs) and the second time after editing
src/Makefile and support/Maekfile to have CC point to "gcc".
I can't find any references to CC in the makefiles directory.

Is there a better way to do this? If not, I'll add this as
part of the build procedure in the Guide :)

Thanks much!

Cheers,
Darci Chapman
aka Paradise Cowgirl
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wisdom.  wisdom is not truth.  truth is not beauty.
beauty is not love. love is not music.
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Bob Luckin (bobl@dadd.ti.com) wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if it is true for Solaris 2.4, but under 2.5 if you don't
> have the permissions on ~ftp/dev/tcp set to 666, then passive connections
> don't work. Many web browsers use passive connections (not sure about MSIE),
> so this could be the cause of the problem.
> 
> FYI, my Solaris 2.5 settings are :-
> ls -l ~ftp/dev
> total 0
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root other 11, 42 Mar 13 1996 tcp
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root other 105, 1 Oct 25 1996 ticotsord
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root other 11, 14 Oct 25 1996 udp
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root other 13, 12 Mar 13 1996 zero
> but I expect the major and minor numbers may vary for 2.4
> 
> The original Solaris man page for ftpd should list the files and
> settings you need for anonymous access. Check that your system conforms to
> these.
> [...snip...]
> --
> Bob Luckin      

In addition, you can use ls -lL to check the permissions/settings in
the real, system /dev directory. On my Solaris 2.4 system, they are:

crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       11, 42 Jul 10  1995 tcp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys      105,  1 Jul 10  1995 ticotsord
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       11, 41 Oct 25  1994 udp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       13, 12 Oct 25  1994 zero

I haven't tested passive connections on my Solaris 2.4 system yet,
however, so I will tonight and if the above doesn't work, I will
post an update.

Cheers,
Darci Chapman
aka Paradise Cowgirl 

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wisdom.  wisdom is not truth.  truth is not beauty.
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From owner-wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu  Wed May 27 19:40:50 1998
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On Wed, 27 May 1998, Paradise Cowgirl wrote:
> 
> In addition, you can use ls -lL to check the permissions/settings in
> the real, system /dev directory. On my Solaris 2.4 system, they are:
> 
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       11, 42 Jul 10  1995 tcp
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys      105,  1 Jul 10  1995 ticotsord
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       11, 41 Oct 25  1994 udp
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     sys       13, 12 Oct 25  1994 zero

Hiya Paradise Cowgirl

I finally ended up with this in /dev

d--x--x--x   2 root     other        512 May 27 18:24 .
dr-xr-xr-x  11 root     other        512 Dec 11 15:43 ..
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     13,  2 May 27 18:01 null
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 42 Dec 10 12:46 tcp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other    105,  1 Dec 10 12:48 ticotsord
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 41 Dec 10 12:47 udp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     13, 12 May 27 18:24 zero

I had a major number wrong for zero. I don't know why but adding null
helped - everything that should be is
visible.

Thanks to you and Bob Luckin.

Sincerely
Kevin Clancy

Eleanor Roosevelt Institute
1899 Gaylord St.,
Denver, CO 80206

clancy@eri.uchsc.edu
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Dear All,

I am running Solaris 2.6 on Sparc10. I am using wuftpd-2.7beta17 to
set up an anonymous ftp server. Currently I could access the server 
as anonymous user. When I "ls", I could see the files and directories
in ~ftp. I see nothing(no files, no directories) when I "ls -l".

The server is running NIS+ in compat mode.

I have checked with: chroot ~ftp /bin/ls, and it worked.

This is the listing for ~ftp:

dr-xr-xr-x   6 root     other        512 May 27 15:50 .
drwxr-xr-x   4 root     root         512 May 20 14:38 ..
-r--------   1 root     other          0 May 21 11:11 .forward
-r--------   1 root     other          0 May 21 11:11 .rhosts
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     other          7 May 26 16:55 bin -> usr/bin
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     other        512 May 28 10:02 dev
d--x--x--x   2 root     other        512 May 27 11:31 etc
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     other          7 May 26 16:55 lib -> usr/lib
dr-xr-xr-x  16 root     ftp          512 May 25 11:59 pub
d--x--x--x   4 root     other        512 May 27 15:51 usr

This is the listing for ~ftp/dev:

dr-xr-xr-x   2 root     other        512 May 28 10:02 .
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root     other        512 May 27 15:50 ..
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     13,  2 May 28 10:02 null
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 42 May 21 11:40 tcp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other    105,  1 May 25 16:28 ticotsord
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     11, 41 May 25 16:27 udp
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other     13, 12 May 21 11:41 zero
 
Note: /dev/null was added as suggested from other messages in this group.

This is the listing for ~ftp/etc:

d--x--x--x   2 root     other        512 May 27 11:31 .
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root     other        512 May 28 10:22 ..
-r--r--r--   1 root     other         35 May 25 11:24 group
-r--r--r--   1 root     other       1064 May 25 16:25 netconfig
-r--r--r--   1 root     other       1299 May 27 11:31 nsswitch.conf
-r--r--r--   1 root     other        184 May 26 14:20 passwd

This is the contents of ~ftp/etc/passwd:

root:x:0:1:Super-User:/:/sbin/sh
daemon:x:1:1::/:
nuucp:x:9:9:uucp Admin:/var/spool/uucppublic:/usr/lib/uucp/uucico
ftp:x:40:60003:Anonymous FTP account:/usr/local/users/ftp:/bin/true

This is the contents of ~ftp/group;

root::0:root
other::1:
ftp::60003:

This was oberverd when "ls -l" as anonymous login:

ftp> ls -l
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
226 Transfer complete.

When I used ncftp or gui ftp tool from win95, nothing was displayed.

Do I missed something? I have checked the faq on ftp an anonymous ftp.

Thanks for your help.


Regards
Alan

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Could someone please advise me on weather
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What would be the benefits?  Are there any security
enhancements?

thanks
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On Thu, 28 May 1998, Speier, Guy J - CNF wrote:

> Could someone please advise me on weather
> I should upgrade a machine currently running
> wu-ftp 2.4(2) to the latest version.
> 
> What would be the benefits?  Are there any security
> enhancements?

Lots and lots of security enhancements.  Check out this one reference:
  http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-97.27.FTP_bounce.html
quoting:

   The CERT/CC staff urges you to install a comprehensive patch if one is
   available. Until then, we recommend the wu-ftpd package identified in
   Section III.B. as a workaround. 

and:

   The wu-ftpd package addresses the FTP bounce problem by ensuring that
   the PORT command cannot be used to establish connections to machines
   other than the originating client. Please read the wu-ftpd README file
   "FIXES-2.4-HOBBIT" before installing the package. 

   The latest version of wu-ftpd, which we recommend, is available from

   ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-16.tar..Z

CERT Advisories seem a good enough reason to me to upgrade.

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Hello, all,

Here are two answers to my question regarding gcc and "./build sol":

One way:

1. edit src/makefiles/Makefile.sol and support/makefiles/Makefile.sol and
comment out the line in each file:

	CC =	cc

2. export CC=gcc (or setenv CC gcc)

	(or combine step 1 and 2 and make CC = gcc)

3. make sure gcc is in your $PATH

4. Run ./build sol as you normally would and everything works fine.

Another way (thanks to Stig Isaksson):

1. Make a symbolic link, i.e.:

ln -s /<where the gcc is>/gcc /<where you want the link>/cc

which in my case meant: ln -s /opt/GCC2721/gcc /usr/ccs/bin/cc

2. Have the directory with the link (in my case /usr/ccs/bin) in your
$PATH

3. AVOID having /usr/ucb in your $PATH (if that's where the cc script
is which tries to run the non-present BSD compatible C compiler).

Cheers,
Darci Chapman
aka Paradise Cowgirl

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        Good morning/afternoon/night(??)! I'm writing this mail hoping that
it can help someone with the same problem, and because it can exist a better
solution in this case.

  I run wuftp on Solaris 2.5.1, and I've had to setup wuftpd in order to log
in 'guest mode' (i.e. chroot-ing every guest user that logs into the
machine). The main problem was that we have ~1200 'guest users' (the box
also works as web server, and they need to put by ftp their pages under
~user/public_html/). And all needed a complete structure (bin/, etc/,
usr/bin/, usr/lib/, dev/, etc/) and ls & dynamic libraries also. The
libraries spend ~1.8 MB. And now!...1.8 MB*1200 users...=MANY DISK SPACE!
Solution?

  One solution (I don't know if the better solution) is to compile a 'static
ls', and copy this special ls to every bin/ directory.

  The other (the one I choose) is to hardlink, using 'ln src-file dst-file',
all the files needed. All users then share one real copy of ls, one copy of
ld.so, ld.so.1, libc.so.1 and so on. (For all the guys that are saying: This
can be a security breach, because you're sharing the system ls!... I say you
no, the ls used in this experiment is a copy (a copy, not a link) of the
system ls.)

        Am I right? Am I an idiot?

        David.
--
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Has anyone out there has installed wu-ftpd 2.4.1  in an HPUX 10.20 machine?

Please your input will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Elena

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On Fri, 29 May 1998 ender@adi.uam.es wrote:

>   I run wuftp on Solaris 2.5.1, and I've had to setup wuftpd in order to log
> in 'guest mode' (i.e. chroot-ing every guest user that logs into the
> machine). The main problem was that we have ~1200 'guest users' (the box
> also works as web server, and they need to put by ftp their pages under
> ~user/public_html/). And all needed a complete structure (bin/, etc/,
> usr/bin/, usr/lib/, dev/, etc/) and ls & dynamic libraries also. The
> libraries spend ~1.8 MB. And now!...1.8 MB*1200 users...=MANY DISK SPACE!
> Solution?
> 
>   One solution (I don't know if the better solution) is to compile a 'static
> ls', and copy this special ls to every bin/ directory.
> 
>   The other (the one I choose) is to hardlink, using 'ln src-file dst-file',
> all the files needed. All users then share one real copy of ls, one copy of
> ld.so, ld.so.1, libc.so.1 and so on. (For all the guys that are saying: This
> can be a security breach, because you're sharing the system ls!... I say you
> no, the ls used in this experiment is a copy (a copy, not a link) of the
> system ls.)
> 
>         Am I right? Am I an idiot?

Given your environment, you're right.

here, my users are all on a single directory heirarchy (/home/users), each
is in a private group, and permissions are forced to deny world or group
write anywhere in /home/users .. so I can chroot to the common point and
only need one copy of the bin/ and etc/ directories.

Using a copy of the ls (et al) is a very good idea, hardlinking is fine if
you can do it.  I keep four copies myself (actually five, I have a
secured version for intrusion detection): system, chroot'd user, anonymous
ftp, guestgroup/dropbox (almost anonymous) chroot'd users.

----

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People,

Some hacker keeps creating directories in my /incoming directory, 
and uploading some Warez software, even so I have the nodirs argument 
on my upload command line (see below).

upload /export/home/ftp/pub /incoming yes ftp nobody 0600 nodirs

Is this a known bug.

I'm running Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1).

Will appreciate any help.

thanks,

Edgardo (Ed) Perez
Southwest Research Institute, Computer and Telecommunications Center,
6220 Culebra Rd., P.O. Drawer 28510, San Antonio, TX 78228-0510
voice: (210) 522-2880, fax: (210) 522-3424, e-mail: eperez@swri.edu

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Yes.  A patch is available in the mailing list archives.


On Fri, 29 May 1998 eperez@swri.edu wrote:

> Date: Fri, 29 May 98 13:44:19 CDT
> From: <eperez@swri.edu> "Edgardo Perez"
> To: wu-ftpd@wugate.wustl.edu
> Subject: nodirs argument on upload command doesn't work
> 
> People,
> 
> Some hacker keeps creating directories in my /incoming directory, 
> and uploading some Warez software, even so I have the nodirs argument 
> on my upload command line (see below).
> 
> upload /export/home/ftp/pub /incoming yes ftp nobody 0600 nodirs
> 
> Is this a known bug.
> 
> I'm running Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1).
> 
> Will appreciate any help.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Edgardo (Ed) Perez
> Southwest Research Institute, Computer and Telecommunications Center,
> 6220 Culebra Rd., P.O. Drawer 28510, San Antonio, TX 78228-0510
> voice: (210) 522-2880, fax: (210) 522-3424, e-mail: eperez@swri.edu
> 


----

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On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 02:45:31PM -0400, Gregory A Lundberg wrote:

> Yes.  A patch is available in the mailing list archives.

Where can I find the archives?  "index wu-ftpd" to 
listproc@wugate.wustl.edu gave me an error message.

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On Fri, 29 May 1998 ender@adi.uam.es wrote:

>I run wuftp on Solaris 2.5.1, and I've had to setup wuftpd in order to log
>in 'guest mode' (i.e. chroot-ing every guest user that logs into the
>machine). The main problem was that we have ~1200 'guest users' (the box
>also works as web server, and they need to put by ftp their pages under
>~user/public_html/). And all needed a complete structure (bin/, etc/,
>usr/bin/, usr/lib/, dev/, etc/) and ls & dynamic libraries also. The
>libraries spend ~1.8 MB. And now!...1.8 MB*1200 users...=MANY DISK SPACE!
>Solution?

You could make static binaries, yes .. and you could also:
* Put the followint rows at the end of /etc/vfstab
/guestlib - /path/to/guest/home/lib lofs - yes ro
/guestdev - /path/to/guest/home/dev lofs - yes ro
 ^       ^^         ^                ^   ^  ^  ^
(1)  (2)-||-(3)    (4)              (5) (6)(7)(8)

(1) The path to correctly set up directories that work in a chrooted
     environment ..
(2) Here represented by a ' ' should really be a '\t' (tab).
(3) There is no device we should check at start ..
(4) The single guest home dir .. (or the ftp home) .. and no .. the user
     wont slip out of his home ... Not even to check other guests home ..
(5) The critical part, the filsystem is a "loopback filesystem" ...
    In Solaris (at least 2.5.1) this makes it possible to set up correctly
    chroot's, check the manpages lofs(7FS), mount(2) and vfstab(2).
(6) As we didn't enable the filesystem-check, we don't specify how many
    time the check is run..
(7) We do want it set up right away as the computer boots, right?
(8) We mount it read-only, as the devices should manage anyway ..
    Perhaps we also need 'nosuid' or something, but that is untested.

I also did a (stupid) patch to beta-16 to enable mounting (not
automounting) the dirs right before chrooting .. but that is the
wrong(tm) way to do it .. I got it (untested) if anyone want to look at it
..

-- 
/Emil




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On Fri, 29 May 1998, David Carmean wrote:

> Where can I find the archives?  "index wu-ftpd" to 
> listproc@wugate.wustl.edu gave me an error message.

At the resource center.

The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the 
directory
 
      ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
 
You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
 
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Has anyone thought about a centralized location for wu-ftp information?  One  
site for archive, resources, FTP/HTTP, etc ?

Personally, it took me a bit of work to track everything down before I found  
where the list was.

Just a thought.


> At the resource center.
>
> The location of the latest version of wu-ftpd can be found in the
> directory
>
> <ftp://ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/
>
> You can't see the directory contents, so read the message informing you
> of the actual filename to retrieve. It's there.
>
> wu-ftpd Resource Center:  <http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/
> wu-ftpd FAQ:              <http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html
> wu-ftpd list archive:     <http://www.landfield.com/wu-ftpd/mail-archive/