Subject: Trash "can" for deleted messages?

From: Bill Schoolcraft <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:44:50 -0800 (PST)

Hello,

I was wondering if there is an option for holding deleted emails
from Pine?

Thanks

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From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:49:54 -0800 (PST)

>I was wondering if there is an option for holding deleted emails

Though it's not the trashcan metaphor, effectively the same thing can be
gotten (at least with IMAP) with the first setting:

            [X]  expunge-only-manually                        
            [X]  expunge-without-confirm                      
            [X]  expunge-without-confirm-everywhere           

Having the others set is good too, IMHO.  Then only when I manually expunge
do items actually get deleted.

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From: Bill Schoolcraft <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:00:49 -0800 (PST)

> do items actually get deleted.

Thanks,  I was hoping that maybe a variable could be set so
deleted messages were directed to a file like ~/mail/trash etc.

Thanks for the quick reply.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:23:56 -0800 (PST)

*** Bill Schoolcraft ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Thanks, I was hoping that maybe a variable could be set so deleted 
:) messages were directed to a file like ~/mail/trash etc.

Bill,

  I have a patch in my web page (address below) which allows you, among 
other things, to do this. The patch is called "define your own rules..". 
You can make "save-rules" that save according to folder/sender/flags. 
Automatic saving will happen when the folder is being closed.

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From: NM Public <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:55:24 +0000 (GMT)

> Automatic saving will happen when the folder is being closed.

You might also want to look at this section of my Power Pine 
page:

  Saving Your Trash
  <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#saveTrash>

I just updated it so it includes a link to Eduardo's patch.

Hope this helps,
NM

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From: Bill Schoolcraft <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 07:16:14 -0800 (PST)

> I just updated it so it includes a link to Eduardo's patch.

Thanks, will check it out.  I did download the patch and am trying
to apply  Eduardo's patch instructions to my OS.

I'm running FreeBSD-5.2.1 and the only locations of pine is the
following, I installed Pine at installation time.

I omitted the locations of the word "pine" in /usr/ports/*
=================================================================
/usr/local/man/man1/pine.1.gz
/usr/local/bin/pine
/usr/local/etc/pine.conf
/usr/local/share/doc/pine
/usr/local/share/apps/kappfinder/apps/Internet/Terminal/pine.desktop
/usr/local/share/vim/vim62/syntax/pine.vim
=================================================================

I'm sure I'm missing something and will check out your site this
morning.

Thanks again for your response.

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From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:55:01 -0800 (PST)

>Automatic saving will happen when the folder is being closed.

But that's not really the same thing, right?

AFAIK, folders aren't really "closed" until I quit pine (or at least my
inbox and my other stayopen folder).

I presume the originator wants a message to automatically show up in
the trash can as soon as they hit delete.  (Which would really make a copy
of the message if using IMAP, and delete-and-hide the original message, sort
of how messages are hidden via filters even when I normally want to see deleted
messages.)