Subject: stay open folders

From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:40:29 -0700 (PDT)

I'm using pine 4.60 on mac os x.

Stay open folders don't seem to work the way the documentation says they
will.. In fact I guess it's not working at all.

I put "carbondev" as a stay open folder, and quit and relaunched pine to make
sure I wasn't seeing an anomaly on that one run.. I wasn't.

When I 'g'o between my INBOX and carbondev, it's going to the last message
in the list, not the previous one I was on.  I also see that it's "closing"
carbondev when I go back to the INBOX.

I looked through the setup configuration screen, and I don't have any of
the other settings related to "stay open folders" set.
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From: Jeff Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:44:13 -0700 (PDT)

> the other settings related to "stay open folders" set.

That should be all you need.  One thing to pay attention to is that 
carbondev should be in your incoming folders list, ie. don't reference a 
folder in your default mail collection in this way as you would when 
saving a message.  If it's a folder in your default mail collection, you 
need to use the full name, eg. {imap.server.example}mail/carbondev.

If it's still not working for you, then you need to send us a pine-debug 
file after running pine with the -d9 option set so we can get a better 
idea what's going on.

Jeff

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From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Jeff Franklin wrote:
> That should be all you need.  One thing to pay attention to is that carbondev
> should be in your incoming folders list, ie. don't reference a folder in your
> default mail collection in this way as you would when saving a message.  If
> it's a folder in your default mail collection, you need to use the full name,
> eg. {imap.server.example}mail/carbondev.

I guess I don't really understand what "incoming folders list" and 
"default mail collection" mean.

I see carbondev when I simply hit l to go to the mail folder list.

I tried
{mail.apple.com}mail/carbondev
and
{mail.apple.com}/carbondev

in the stay open folder item and quit and restarted pine between launches.

I do have a collection list set up for "mail on mail.apple.com".

So I guess I think I just don't know what I need to change to make this work.

I've read the various help screens on the options in question.

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From: Jeff Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:48:15 -0700 (PDT)

> "default mail collection" mean.

No need to understand incoming folders.  The first collection is your 
default collection, but if you have no other collections set, then you 
wouldn't see any other collections.  Sorry for the confusion.

> {mail.apple.com}/carbondev

The first one should work (setting it and restarting).  IN my test just 
now, setting this up was pretty delicate.  That you would have understand 
the syntax for a fully qualified folder is a design shortcoming. 
Basically, it should look like:

{Server}Path/carbondev, where Server and Path are what you see when you do 
Setup->List.  Not very elegant, but that's where it stands right now.

If that doesn't work, drop us a pine-debug file and maybe I can see what's 
going wrong.

Jeff