Subject: Exchange 2003, IMAP and Pine

From: Stefan Bertels <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:16:34 +0200

Hello!

I try to use PC-Pine with Microsoft Exchange 2003 and it seems to work
basically. I read Pine-Exchange-Mini-Howto and added folder lists

{server/user=me}inbox/[]
{server/user=me}[]

and folder {server/user=me}inbox as inbox

the folder collection looks like

    &ANY-ffentliche Ordner//
    Aufgaben[/]
    Entw&APw-rfe[/]
    Gel&APY-schte Objekte[/]
    Kontakte[/]

I have problems accessing the public folders in Exchange, there named
"Öffentliche Ordner" (german) and I see it in the list as "&ANY-ffentliche
Ordner//". It is empty (ENTER) and has no subfolders (>) but in fact it
has the least: If I add the additional inbox "&ANY-ffentliche
Ordner/Inbox" I get the public folder "Inbox" and can read those mails.

But how do I get Pine to read the subfolders of the public folder? I added
folder collection {server/user=me}&ANY-ffentliche Ordner/[] which didn't
had any effect. I can also goto {server/user=me}&ANY-ffentliche
Ordner/anyfoldername and list the contents of public folder
"anyfoldername".

BTW: I'm quite satisfied with pine in general but listing Exchange folders
is quite non-intuitive. Here it's a disadvantage not to have the
possibility of a hierarchical folder tree as I have to look into each
folder by ">" to see whether subfolders exist.

BTW2: Access to public folders is quite slow, is there anything to tune
up?

BTW3: The german umlauts are quite cryptic encoded (see above). It's just
for the optic, but is it changeable (but I guess only Exchange can change
this...)

Best regards
Stefan

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From: Stefan Bertels <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:17:53 +0200

Hello,

it's not fine to answer my own mail, but I figured out more details:

(imap commands follow, just some snippets)

IMAP: 00000003 RLIST "" %
...
IMAP: * LIST (\Marked \HasNoChildren) "/" INBOX
IMAP: * LIST (\HasChildren) "/" Synchronisierungsprobleme
IMAP: * LIST (\Noselect) "/" "&ANY-ffentliche Ordner/"

Exchange gives this folder including some hierarchy separator as last
char. Pine now adds another hierarchy separator and

IMAP: 00000003 RLIST "&ANY-ffentliche Ordner//" %
IMAP: 00000003 NO This a special mailbox and can not be selected or used as the destination for mailbox operations.

So this doesn't work. I did some IMAP test and

IMAP: TAG123 RLIST "&ANY-ffentliche Ordner/" %

works just fine.

Question1: Can this be fixed in pine if it is a bug in exchange? Most
other IMAP clients seem not to have problems here (perhaps they don't add
the additional "/" for listing subfolders?)

Question2: Is it possible to add some translation for those
Unicode-Foldernames? At least for some often used chars like german
umlauts?

Regards
Stefan

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From: Stefan Bertels <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:30:34 +0200

Hello,

additional note. Setting up another folder collection in pine fails, too:

"FolderCollectionName" {server/user=me}&ANY-ffentliche Ordner/[]

This collection shows up as empty, but pine does not try to populate it
via IMAP RLIST (seen in Journal, debug=4).

Best regards
Stefan