Subject: speed and incoming-startup-rule

From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:39:51 +0000 (GMT)

I'm constantly trying to speed up Pine because I have a slow
dial-up connection but I like to run Pine on my local machine.
Today I did some random tweaks and things definitely seem to have
speeded up but I'm not sure which of my tweaks did it. I'm
thinking that it might be this:

 incoming-startup-rule            =
            Set    Rule Values
            ---  ----------------------
            ( )  first-unseen
            ( )  first-recent
            ( )  first-important
            ( )  first-important-or-unseen
            ( )  first-important-or-recent
            ( )  first
            (*)  last

I used to have it set to 'first-recent' and I was hoping that
changing it to last would speed things up because Pine doesn't
have to scan looking for the first RECENT message, but I have no
idea if my guess is correct. Does anyone know?

Also, if anyone has any other speed tips, let me know and I'll
add them here:

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#speed>

Thank you,
Nancy

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Nancy McGough
Infinite Ink ~ <http://www.ii.com>
Deflexion & Reflexion ~ <http://deflexion.com>
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From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:14:33 -0800 (PST)

>idea if my guess is correct. Does anyone know?

I tried to respond via to some of this (and ask some stuff about
the things on your website), but it just bounced back several hours later
with a 'reverse spam blocker'.

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From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:59:44 +0000 (GMT)

> with a 'reverse spam blocker'.

Actually that bounce-back was not a 'reverse spam blocker'
because I don't do that, and in general I'm against bounce backs,
as I discuss here:

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/#reject>

Instead, it was a problem at DreamHost, which seems to be fixed
now.

The answer to the question that you emailed me is in this section
of my Power Pine page:

 <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#faveSettings>

i.e., expose-hidden-config is set in the Pine feature-list and it
is only available in Pine 4.40 and later.

Thank you,
Nancy

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:16:31 -0800 (PST)

Sure, that could be the cause of the slowness. It is going to depend on 
lots of different settings and what you are connecting to. The way to 
definitively figure out where the time is going is to run pine with 
timestamping turned on in the debugging. Something like

    pine -d verbose=9,imap=4,timestamp

You may want a lower level verbose.

Then start up pine, notice that it took longer than you'd like, quit and 
look through the timestamps in the debug file for gaps that correspond to 
the delay. It's not trivial but the debugging is verbose enough that you 
may be able to figure out approximately what is going on without knowing 
all about how it works. If you're lucky, a significant portion of the time 
will be taken up by the server responding to a particular command and 
you'll say, "Aha! If I change this config setting that delay might go 
away!". If you're not as lucky, the significant amount of time will just 
be the result of totalling up lots of little times and it won't give you a 
way to fix it, or you'll find the time but you won't understand what pine 
is trying to do, or the delay will happen one time but not the next, and 
so on.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle