Subject: unable to add incoming pop3 folder

From: James Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:28 -0600 (CST)

I hope I'm sending this message to the right place: I don't have my
address book with me here at this computer, or any recent messages from
the list on the mail server.  Anyway, if it is, the following request:

I am trying to add as an incoming folder a pop3 server where I need to
check mail.  This is under Pine 4.58 (Debian Sid - sshh! don't tell).
I've enabled incoming folders, and have 3 imap folders there working
without a hitch.  Somehow the pop3 server is uncooperative.  I've actually
run into this problem under Pine with this same server previously, but
adding the folder seemed to eventually work itself out after several
attempts (not sure how or why it finally worked - I assume the server must
operate in some strange way, since I didn't do anything differently when
it finally did work).  So, I've been trying all day.  In the folder list
window I hit "a", then type my.popserver.addy/user=myuname/pop3 when asked
"name of server to contain added folder."  When asked "folder on
'my.popserver.addy' to add" I type "INBOX."  Then I give it a name when
asked for "nickname for folder 'INBOX'".  After hitting "return" after
this, I immediately get the message "Error checking for
{my.popserver.addy/user=myuname/pop3}INBOX".  It's like it doesn't even go
to the mailserver to check, but just immediately gives that message.
Could it somehow be remembering a previously failed attempt, that perhaps
had some error in it, rather than checking again with the new values?  Is
there some way in which I'm not entering values correctly?  I've gone over
this many times today, and I can't have entered incorrect values
(according to the info I've been reading, e.g., at Infinite Ink) *every*
time.  I entered those values carefully, using the model I found on that
website.  I also compared it to .pinerc on another machine I have here
that successfully checks the pop3 server in question using Pine 4.21 (just
checked it earlier today with that machine).  I just can't see how it
could be user error in this case.  If I leave off "pop3" it does go to
check, but of course times out since it's requesting on port 143 and this
is a pop server.

Could anyone please help out with this problem?

Thanks, James
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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:03:40 -0800 (PST)

*** James Miller ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list on...:

:) I am trying to add as an incoming folder a pop3 server where I need to
:) check mail.
:) [...]
:) I've enabled incoming folders, and have 3 imap folders there working
:) without a hitch.  Somehow the pop3 server is uncooperative.

James,

  You've found a bug!. The only way in which you can add this folder is by
editing the ".pinerc" file. You will have to add the definition under the
incoming-folders variable. Follow the pattern of the other imap folders to
add your pop3 folder. I have a patch if you want to try it too.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: James Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:33:26 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>   You've found a bug!.

Ahhh.  Yet another accomplishment to add to my resume :)

The only way in which you can add this folder is by
> add your pop3 folder. I have a patch if you want to try it too.
I finally decided to just copy over relevant portions of the .pinerc file
from the working Pine/pop install I have.  That solved the problem, along
similar lines you have suggested here.  So, I guess I won't be needing the
patch.  Thanks for your response.

Sincerely, James