Subject: pine-4.58 + missing lib files

From: ah300 <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:37:42 -0500

I tried to install pine on my system with:

                                       rpm -i pine-4.58-1.i386.rpm

and got:

 error: Failed dependencies:

           libcrypto.so.2 is needed by pine-4.58-1
           libssl.so.2 is needed by pine-4.58-1  

 Can I somehow find the above two files and place them in the /lib 
directory myself for a proper installation?

Joe

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From: Jo Knox <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:57:42 -0900 (AKST)

I have heard of a WebPine from UW, and have heard great raves from one
user---that it's very much like Pine/PC-Pine, with almost all the same
functionality, only web based!

Is WebPine something which will be distributed sometime in the future (or
is it available now?)

Thanks,
jo

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From: "Cloids" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:57:19 -0800

I am running RH9+sendmail.

When I send attachements using Pine to Windows XP users using Outlook,
they get the email but there is no sign of any attachment.  When Outlook
usually blocks an attachment, it says it has block the attachment.  In
this case, it says nothing as if no attachment was sent.

When I send the same attachment to the same user using Kmail, the user
gets the attachment.  So is there a setting I have missed to set on Pine?
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From: Mats Dufberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:16:02 +0100 (CET)

> gets the attachment.  So is there a setting I have missed to set on Pine?

Pine works well with attachments, but there could be differnces on how
they are defined depending on what they "know" about the file being
attached.

Send a mail to yourself from pine with an attachement and look at it both
in pine and kmail. And do the same from kmail.

Then send a mail with an attachment both to yourself and to a outlook
user.

Mats

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:23:43 -0800 (PST)

*** Cloids ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) When I send attachements using Pine to Windows XP users using Outlook,
:) they get the email but there is no sign of any attachment.  When
:) Outlook usually blocks an attachment, it says it has block the
:) attachment.  In this case, it says nothing as if no attachment was
:) sent.
:)
:) When I send the same attachment to the same user using Kmail, the user
:) gets the attachment.  So is there a setting I have missed to set on
:) Pine?

This is a well known bug in Outlook. Press M S C and enable:

 [X]  quell-content-id

read the help text of that feature so that you see the explanatin of why
this is a bug in Outlook.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:42:08 -0500 (EST)

>directory myself for a proper installation?

You're either installing pine which was compiled for a different 
version of the operating system that you're using, or you don't 
have openssl installed (or not the proper version of it).

Simple solution, is to download the pine src.rpm and rebuild it 
against your system.  I've recently built pine-4.58-2 for Fedora 
Core 1, and it is in my repository at:

	ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing/unstable/pine

The ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/pine directory is no longer 
present and has been replaced with a symlink to the above URL 
instead.  The binaries in the unstable heirarchy are compiled for 
and work most likely only on Fedora Core 1 and it's beta 
releases, however it should easily recompile on Red Hat Linux 9, 
8.0, 7.3, etc... and Mandrake, and other rpm distros most likely.

I might provide precompiled versions of pine for RHL 
9/8.0/7.3/7.2/7.1 in the future as well.

Hope this helps.

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From: "Cloids" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:51:33 -0800

Thanks, that fixed it.  I am going to read up more on this.  Its very odd
for Outlook to be behaving like this...nah, its behaving like normal :)

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From: Bill Schoolcraft <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:57:53 +0000 (GMT)

> This is a well known bug in Outlook. Press M S C and enable:

I always meant to ask this..

After doing a config change like the one above, does one have to
shut down and restart pine so the .pinerc file is reread or does
it reread it upon exiting the config menu?

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:00:46 -0800 (PST)

*** Bill Schoolcraft ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) At Wed, 29 Oct 2003 it looks like Eduardo Chappa composed:
:)
:) > This is a well known bug in Outlook. Press M S C and enable:
:) >
:) >  [X] quell-content-id
:) >
:)
:) I always meant to ask this..
:)
:) After doing a config change like the one above, does one have to shut
:) down and restart pine so the .pinerc file is reread or does it reread
:) it upon exiting the config menu?

Most of the time the answer is no, you don't need to restart Pine. If you
need to restart Pine, you will receive a warning saying either that
changes will apply only to the next session of Pine, or that you must
restart Pine in order for changes to take effect. If you do not receive
any warnings like this, then you should assume that the change took effect
immediately.

Eduardo

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From: daniel lance herrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:24:19 -0500 (EST)

> any warnings like this, then you should assume that the change took effect

I always have one copy of pine open (often for
days or weeks), owning my INBOX, cycling through
the collection of boxes for incoming mail, for
reading my mail, with other copies of pine coming
and going examining things in other boxes.

I observe that the copy of pine that makes a
configuration change gets the effect of that
change. I worry that some other copy of pine might
overwrite the configuration file with its own
version of the configuration, thus backing out the
change (the classic simultaneous update
vulnerability).

So, Question: Does pine protect me from the
simultaneous update problem of having one copy of
pine write a configuration change and then, later,
having another copy of pine that was started
before the first change write out a new version of
the configuration file that does not contain the
first change?

dan

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:24:22 -0800 (PST)

> the configuration file that does not contain the

If Pine is about to write out a new config file, it should notice that the
config changed since it read it and then it will ask you if you want to
overwrite it or not. So it can be a problem to make changes in two
different pines, just like it can be a problem to edit a file with two
different instances of an editor.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle