Subject: UI question & suggestion

From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:21:22 +0100 (BST)

On the Folder List screen, when I type ;P for Select Properties,
the prompt is this:

 Select by which folder property ?
                 U Unseen msgs    C msg Count
 ^C Cancel       N [New msgs]

My Question: What is the meaning of Unseen and New here?

My Suggestion: Add '^G Help' as an option, which would explain this.

Thanks,
Nancy

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:30:06 -0400 (EDT)

As it was written on Sep 12, thus Nancy McGough typed:

Nancy:  On the Folder List screen, when I type ;P for Select Properties,
Nancy:  the prompt is this:
Nancy:
Nancy:   Select by which folder property ?
Nancy:                   U Unseen msgs    C msg Count
Nancy:   ^C Cancel       N [New msgs]
Nancy:
Nancy:  My Question: What is the meaning of Unseen and New here?
Nancy:
Nancy:  My Suggestion: Add '^G Help' as an option, which would explain this.
Nancy:
Nancy:  Thanks,
Nancy:  Nancy

The difference between Unseen and New:

Unseen - a previously 'new' message that you have not read yet, mayhaps
         skipped over to read later.
New    - a message recently dropped into you mail folder.

You can best tell the difference if, in your .pinerc you have
index-format  = IMAPSTATUS

                ^^^^^^^^^^ (note the change from STATUS to IMAPSTATUS)

 Thanks

 Scott Birl
 Senior Systems Administrator            Computer Services   Temple University
 1805 North Broad Street  Philadelphia   Pennsylvania 19122  United States
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From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:56:06 +0100 (BST)

> New    - a message recently dropped into you mail folder.

That's what I thought but that's not what I'm getting when I do
this:

[1] Select > Text > Name > -
    (Select all mailboxes whose name contains a dash (-)

[2] Select > Narrow Selectn > Properties > New
    (Narrow the selection in [1] to the mailboxes that have "New" msgs)

Pine chugs along checking the boxes in [1] and then presents me
with a subset of those boxes, many of which do not contain any
"New" msgs.

When I don't do a "Narrow Selectn" and just do a Select >
Properties > New, it seems to work. But I never want to do that
because it takes a long time with my hundreds of mailboxes!

All my incoming mailbox names start with a dash (-) so that's why
I first select on that.

Maybe I've found a bug? Can someone else try doing this sequence
of selections and see if it works for you?

Thanks,
Nancy

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:30:23 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> of selections and see if it works for you?

Yes, it sure does look like you've found a bug. I am seeing similar
results. It doesn't look like "Narrow" is working correctly. We'll let you
know what we find. Thanks.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT)

The bug works like this:

  If you have some folders selected in the FOLDER LIST screen and you try
to Narrow the selection, then the folders which were already selected but
shouldn't be selected because they aren't in the intersection, and come
before the first folder which should still be selected, will remain
selected incorrectly.

An example. Start with a folder list that looks like

  A1 A2 AB1 B1 B2 AB2 B3 A3 A4

and select folders with property "A". So the selected set is

  A1 A2 AB1       AB2    A3 A4

Now narrow the selection by also requiring property "B". The answer ought
to be

        AB1       AB2

but the bug will cause it to be

  A1 A2 AB1       AB2

More than you cared to know. A patch for unix pine is attached.

Steve