Subject: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen

From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:47:36 -0400 (EDT)

I copied this setting from a global 4.53 pine.conf file (on server A):

inbox-path="IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX

to my personal 4.55 .pinerc file, stripping "inbox-path=",
under "folder-collections="

ie:
folder-collections={imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX

But Pine doesnt like the fact that [] is missing from the
folder-collections line.

Ive also tried:

folder-collections="IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX[]
folder-collections="IMAP Folders" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}[]

Neither allow me to access my remote INBOX.  I can access my remote
folders with the 2nd string, but my remote INBOX is not in that folder
list.

I tried configuring my .pinerc's "inbox-path", but I cannot have 2 INBOXes
at the same time.  The one overwrites the other.

I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want the
ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).

What am I doing wrong?  Or is this not supported?

Thanks.
Birl
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From: Rico Barth <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:06:20 +0200 (Westeuropäische Sommerzeit)

Hi Birl!

> What am I doing wrong?  Or is this not supported?

You must use "Setup -> collectionLists"

I hope that helps.

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:20:12 -0400 (EDT)

Rico Barth said unto me:

Rico:  Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:06:20 +0200 ([iso-8859-1] Westeuropäische Sommerzeit)
Rico:  From: Rico Barth <[email-masked]>
Rico:  To: Birl <[email-masked]>
Rico:  Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
Rico:  Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
Rico:
Rico:
Rico:  Hi Birl!
Rico:
Rico:  On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
Rico:
Rico:  > Ive also tried:
Rico:  >
Rico:  > folder-collections="IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX[]
Rico:  > folder-collections="IMAP Folders" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}[]
Rico:  >
Rico:  > What am I doing wrong?  Or is this not supported?
Rico:  >
Rico:
Rico:  You must use "Setup -> collectionLists"
Rico:
Rico:  I hope that helps.
Rico:
Rico:  Bye
Rico:
Rico:  Rico

Nope.

It added
"IMAP INBOX" {imap.temple.edu/ssl/novalidate-cert}INBOX[]

to my .pinerc file, which was one of the methods I already tried

As I mentioned in the original post, the remote IMAP server does not have
INBOX listed with the other IMAP folders.  Totally separated.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT)

*** Birl ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) [Deleted configuration of Pine]
:) I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want
:) the ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).
:)
:) What am I doing wrong?  Or is this not supported?

Der Birl,

I discuss how to configure "incoming folders" in my web page, take a look
at this page:

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incoming-folders/

I hope this helps.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:05:19 -0400 (EDT)

Eduardo Chappa said unto me:

chappa:  Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
chappa:  From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
chappa:  To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
chappa:  Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
chappa:
chappa:  *** Birl ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list today:
chappa:
chappa:  :) [Deleted configuration of Pine]
chappa:  :) I want to keep my local INBOX (on server B) as the primary, but I want
chappa:  :) the ability to check the INBOX of the IMAP server (server C).
chappa:  :)
chappa:  :) What am I doing wrong?  Or is this not supported?
chappa:
chappa:  Der Birl,
chappa:
chappa:  I discuss how to configure "incoming folders" in my web page, take a look
chappa:  at this page:
chappa:
chappa:  http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/collections/incoming-folders/
chappa:
chappa:  I hope this helps.
chappa:
chappa:  Eduardo
chappa:  http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

In a way it does.

I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather
the "Collection List" screen (M  L       Main screen --> Folder List).
The same screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.

I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed), with
TAB cycling turned on.  I have no intention of constantly checking this
backup email account every time I press the TAB key.

So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite what
Im looking for.

Maybe it can be in a future release?

Thanks.
Birl

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From: daniel lance herrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:23:59 -0400 (EDT)

> Maybe it can be in a future release?

sticking to features currently in pine, open two
copies of pine in different windows, using
different .pinerc files specifying each INBOX in
one of them.

Possibly some variation of what I do would help -
I have a number of rules that move messages into
different local folders, having one of the
folders, named "local" as a catchall for mail that
is not automatically sorted. When I am not
actively cycling through the incoming folders
(using <tab>) I leave the "local" box open on the
screen. Pine continues to scan the INBOX
periodically, quietly moving mail to various
folders and beeping when some message appears in
INBOX and does not get moved out, but also beeping
when it notices that it has put new mail into the
"open" mailbox, "local".

I have no idea if that would work with both of the
boxes being IMAP boxes, can't think of any reason
why it would not.

dan

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:36:02 -0400 (EDT)

daniel lance herrick said unto me:

dan:  Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
dan:  From: daniel lance herrick <[email-masked]>
dan:  To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
dan:  Subject: Re: Configuring IMAP -- dual INBOXen
dan:
dan:
dan:
dan:  On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
dan:
dan:  > In a way it does.
dan:  >
dan:  > I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather
dan:  > the "Collection List" screen (M  L       Main screen --> Folder List).
dan:  > The same screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.
dan:  >
dan:  > I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed), with
dan:  > TAB cycling turned on.  I have no intention of constantly checking this
dan:  > backup email account every time I press the TAB key.
dan:  >
dan:  > So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite what
dan:  > Im looking for.
dan:  >
dan:  > Maybe it can be in a future release?
dan:
dan:
dan:
dan:  sticking to features currently in pine, open two
dan:  copies of pine in different windows, using
dan:  different .pinerc files specifying each INBOX in
dan:  one of them.

But that would be too easy  :P

dan:  Possibly some variation of what I do would help -
dan:  I have a number of rules that move messages into
dan:  different local folders, having one of the
dan:  folders, named "local" as a catchall for mail that
dan:  is not automatically sorted. When I am not
dan:  actively cycling through the incoming folders
dan:  (using <tab>) I leave the "local" box open on the
dan:  screen. Pine continues to scan the INBOX
dan:  periodically, quietly moving mail to various
dan:  folders and beeping when some message appears in
dan:  INBOX and does not get moved out, but also beeping
dan:  when it notices that it has put new mail into the
dan:  "open" mailbox, "local".

It's not a filtering-type issue.  The IMAP account is nothing more than a
backup email account that I have to clean out every now and again.

dan:  I have no idea if that would work with both of the
dan:  boxes being IMAP boxes, can't think of any reason
dan:  why it would not.
dan:
dan:  dan

FTR, there's only 1 local INBOX and 1 IMAP INBOX.

Or maybe I miss understand your point?

Thanks.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT)

:) I do not want the acces from Incoming-Folders screen, but rather the
:) "Collection List" screen (M L Main screen --> Folder List). The same
:) screen where I can choose either Incoming-Folders or a NNTP server.
:)
:) I already have about 30 folders in my Incoming-Folders (procmail'ed),
:) with TAB cycling turned on.  I have no intention of constantly checking
:) this backup email account every time I press the TAB key.
:)
:) So as much as I like the solution you have provided, it's not quite
:) what Im looking for.
:)
:) Maybe it can be in a future release?

That's of course an interesting idea. I like the current set up, but
several people have mentioned that they would like the setup that you are
proposing. Pine is not flexible enough to do this for you.

The people that you need to ask for this feature read this mailing list
too, although I don't recall having seen an answer to this feature
request.

Eduardo