Subject: looking for feature/patch

From: Bryan Koschmann - GKT <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:54:02 -0700 (PDT)

Hello,

I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
love.

However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
don't get messages everyday.

If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).

Thanks in advance!

	Bryan

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From: Heiko Rommel <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:13:09 +0200 (CEST)

> didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).

I have no patch but would like to join your call for this feature ;)
A split view (right side shows folder names and count of messages) would be even better.

Heiko Rommel
SuSE Linux AG

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:11:06 -0400 (EDT)

Heiko Rommel said unto me:

rommel:  Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:13:09 +0200 (CEST)
rommel:  From: Heiko Rommel <[email-masked]>
rommel:  To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
rommel:  Subject: Re: looking for feature/patch
rommel:
rommel:  On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:
rommel:
rommel:  > Hello,
rommel:  >
rommel:  > I've been an avid pine user for, geez, 8 years or so. Each release is
rommel:  > always exciting, and I keep finding more and more cool features that I
rommel:  > love.
rommel:  >
rommel:  > However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder list,
rommel:  > and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would really
rommel:  > help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check some as they
rommel:  > don't get messages everyday.
rommel:  >
rommel:  > If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
rommel:  > please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
rommel:  > didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).
rommel:  >
rommel:
rommel:  I have no patch but would like to join your call for this feature ;)
rommel:  A split view (right side shows folder names and count of messages) would be even better.
rommel:
rommel:  Heiko Rommel
rommel:  SuSE Linux AG

Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
following feature:

Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup.  In the index screen of
(let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
in the list.  If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
folder.

Does this current feature suit your needs?

Just curious.
Birl

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From: Heiko Rommel <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:30:44 +0200 (CEST)

> Does this current feature suit your needs?

Not excactly. Consider you wait for answers in folder xxx while reading mails in your INBOX.
If you press TAB you might be asked if you would like to see new mails in vvv
just because vvv is before xxx in the folder list and vvv has new mails in it.

Being able to see the status of each incoming folder while reading INBOX
without pressing anything would be ideal (for me;).

Heiko Rommel
SuSE Linux AG

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From: Bryan Koschmann - GKT <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:47:04 -0700 (PDT)

> Does this current feature suit your needs?

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really suit my needs unfortunately. I
would much rather be able to simply see how many messages are there,
especially if I have 20 new messages in my inbox but am waiting for an
important message in folder "important", it would be much easier and more
reliable if I could simply see there is a new message there.

Maybe I would be better off with a mail checking program that could check
folders (if one exists)?

Thanks,

	Bryan

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:05:22 -0700 (PDT)

*** Bryan Koschmann - GKT ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info list...:

:) However, something I am looking for, is where I can view the folder
:) list, and have a number of new messages next to each folder. This would
:) really help, as I have a few folders, and sometimes forget to check
:) some as they don't get messages everyday.
:)
:) If anyone knows of a patch to do this, or maybe has any other ideas,
:) please let me know! I've browsed a few sites with patches listed but
:) didn't find anything (maybe I missed it?).

As far as I know, there is no patch to do what you want, but I wrote a
patch that will tell you *which* incoming folders have new mail. You can
configure which incoming folders you want to have checked at any time.
I've never extended my patch to do this because it would slow down
checking for new mail considerably. As far as I could get from this thread
you care more about knowing which folder has new messages, rather than how
many new messages there are in that folder.  If that's right, I suggest
that you try my patch which you can get from my web site.

Finally, I want to call the attention to a new feature of Pine,

   [X] tab-checks-recent

which has the effect that when you are in the incoming-folder
collections, that if you press TAB in the folder screen then Pine will
tell you how many new messages there are in that folder.

Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: Birl <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:13:48 -0400 (EDT)

As it was written on Jul 15, thus Bryan Koschmann spake unto the masses:

Bryan:  Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
Bryan:  From: Bryan Koschmann - GKT <[email-masked]>
Bryan:  To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
Bryan:  Subject: Re: looking for feature/patch
Bryan:
Bryan:  On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:
Bryan:  >
Bryan:  > Knowing that the original poster has been using Pine a little longer than
Bryan:  > I have (at least 6 years for me), I would like to recall to memory the
Bryan:  > following feature:
Bryan:  >
Bryan:  > Say you have a series of "Incoming Folders" setup.  In the index screen of
Bryan:  > (let's say) the INBOX, if you press TAB, Pine will go to the next folder
Bryan:  > in the list.  If there's new email in that folder it will ask you if you
Bryan:  > want to read X number of new messages, otherwise it skips that inactive
Bryan:  > folder.
Bryan:  >
Bryan:  > Does this current feature suit your needs?
Bryan:  >
Bryan:
Bryan:
Bryan:  Hi,
Bryan:
Bryan:  Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really suit my needs unfortunately. I
Bryan:  would much rather be able to simply see how many messages are there,
Bryan:  especially if I have 20 new messages in my inbox but am waiting for an
Bryan:  important message in folder "important", it would be much easier and more
Bryan:  reliable if I could simply see there is a new message there.
Bryan:
Bryan:  Maybe I would be better off with a mail checking program that could check
Bryan:  folders (if one exists)?
Bryan:
Bryan:  Thanks,
Bryan:
Bryan:  	Bryan

Maybe a simple shell script that merely checks the size of the file could
do for now?

Something like (not checked for accuracy):

-------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
CurrentSize=`ls -l FILE | awk '{print $5}'`

while [ 1 ]
do
  if [ `ls -l FILE | awk '{print $5}'` -gt $CurrentSize ]
  then
    ....
  fi
done
-------------------------------------------------------

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From: Gopi Sundaram <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:28:40 -0500 (CDT)

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Birl wrote:

> Maybe a simple shell script that merely checks the size of the file
> could do for now?

biff can check arbitrary mbox files.

-- 
Gopi Sundaram
http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/

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From: Michael Abbott <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:43:37 +0000 (GMT)

> don't get messages everyday.

In case it makes a difference, I also am waiting anxiously for this
feature to eventually make its appearance (please).  I have a smallish
list of folders that I check regularly, and a count of unread messages (or
even just a * on folders with unread messages) in the folder view would
make an enormous difference to me.