Subject: pine freezes in SSH window

From: Thomas Walter <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:58:28 -0400 (EDT)

Dear PINE Gurus,

I'm not sure if Pine is the culprit but here are the symptoms:

- Users on Win2k PCs use SSH to log onto a Sun Solaris 8 machine to use
Pine to read their email. Periodically, Pine freezes, can not get out of
Pine and the user exits SSH and starts another session.

- /var/mail is NFS mounted on SSH Sun from another Sun where sendmail
runs.

- Periodically I find most (not all) users have lock files associated with
their /var/mail/user mail files. Most of the user lock files are
associated with users that are not logged in (and haven't been, in some
instances, for weeks).

- I have procmail 3.22 running and sendmail Version 8.10.2+Sun.

Any solutions/hints/help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Tom

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From: Alexandre Dulaunoy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:20:08 +0200

> Any solutions/hints/help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Are you sure  that is a Pine issue  or a connection issue ?  To make a
test you can test with 'screen' :

start a new ssh session
start "screen"
start "pine" inside screen
wait for the freeze
cut your SSH windows

start a new ssh session
start "screen -r" (to resume) 
to see if the pine is still responding

If Pine is still responding, this  is an ssh issue or some TCP timeout
issue (http://www.laffeycomputer.com/spinner.html  could be a solution
;). 

If Pine is not responding, this is a pine issue and you should provide
more information about the version used and so on... 

Hope this helps

adulau

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From: kwhite <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:00:27 -0700 (PDT)

i have this problem when logging in from home, but it happens whether
or not i open pine, though because i leave pine up for lengths of time
it usually is the application that is up when the crash occurs. i
think the problem is mainly with the solaris version of ssh (problem
with the daemon?) OR, it is a problem with the default terminal
emulation of the ssh client (VT220 for secure crt), OR, lastly, the
info being passed back and forth to the server under the ssh
connection overloads the network capability in between. in my case,
i've wondered if adelphia (the cable company i get my cable modem
from) OR my school network have implemented some kind of firewall that
gets irritated if someone is connected for long times.

anyway, the drop out you describe happens in securecrt with ssh AND
xwin32 with ssh when connecting from a win2k machine to a solaris 5.8
machine. our version of ssh is ssh1:3des. the locked files are
associated with the processes that are left running when the drop
out occurs.. many times with other programs running (particularly
matlab and netscape). the fact that the processes keep running
indefinitely after a drop out seems to be a problem with SunOs.

if you find a solution to this problem, please please email me back.
But, i don't think it is a problem with pine/

-kevin