Subject: Filtering on From address

From: Bret Busby <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:19:14 +0800 (WST)

Hello.

I am getting an increasing number of spam messages that display with 
blank From addresses, and I can't find how to filter on From addresses that are 
displayed as empty.

When the messages are examined, the name of the sender is not included 
in the From address, but the sending email address is included.

An example, is the part of the spam message header below.

On Fri, 23 May 2003,  wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 23 May 03 01:08:34 GMT
> From:  <[email-masked]>

Is it possible to filter for a lack of a name in the From address? If 
so, how do I do it?

Also, as in the Sent messages directory, where only a To email address 
is used, and not a name included in that field, the list of the messages 
includes the email address rather than a name (for example, if I send a 
message to Fred Dagg <[email-masked]>, then in the Sent messages 
directory list of messages, the name Fred Dagg will be listed, and, if 
I omit the name, and address the message to [email-masked], then in 
the Sent messages directory list of messages, the email address will be 
listed instead of the name), can the PINE developers similarly do this 
for the From address, so that in the directories to which incoming 
messages are delivered (the Inbox for messages that are not directed by 
filtering, and, other directories for messages to which filtered 
messages are directed), if this has not already been done in a later 
version of PINE?

I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3.

Thanks in anticipation.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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 you'll know what the answer means."
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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:32:52 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bret Busby wrote:

> [...]

No, I don't think so.

> I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3.

I thought it already worked that way in v4.44, so maybe I'm not quite
understanding. Are you talking about the MESSAGE INDEX screen? What is
your index-format config variable set to? What does an example bad index
line look like? Thanks.

Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle

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From: daniel lance herrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 16:19:06 -0400 (EDT)

> > I omit the name, and address the message to [email-masked], then in

I suspect that, if you address the message to
<[email-masked]> you will see the same problem
as with the From: header.

> your index-format config variable set to? What does an example bad index

With a From: header that looks like

  From:  <[email-masked]>

the MESSAGE INDEX entry looks like

 A 345 Apr 21                     (2048) Re: For what it's worth

I'm using Pine 4.44 on Solaris, and also whatever
Pine came with RedHat 7.2 on Linux, both show the
empty sender field. I suggested to my son-in-law
that he configure his name into his MUA for his
new ISP and it eventually got better. I think the
relevant detail is the < > with no comment.
Addresses without the < > and with no comment
display the address itself in the MESSAGE INDEX of
the same mailbox.

from the configuration:

  index-format             = <No Value Set>

At least, that's the way things are here for me to
see the problem.

dan

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From: Bret Busby <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 02:22:22 +0800 (WST)

> as with the From: header.

No. Try it and see (except, use another, valid, email address).

> At least, that's the way things are here for me to

My Message Index entry displays in the same way as the example above.

My index-format config variable is set as in the example above. From my 
help facility, that should show the From name, or From email address 
where the From name is missing, but it does not display the From email 
address.

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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