Subject: RE: mailbox locked by other session

From: Beartooth <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:49:24 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
> Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.

	And if you're willing to change providers to get a shell,
Nancy McGough has a list on her site.

	Anybody happen to know which of those is good about keeping
its pine reasonably up to date?

	Also, even among ISP's that offer shell accounts, so-called
national availability may mean less than meets the eye. Speakeasy
claims it, for instance -- but its only "local" dialup in area code
540 is in Fredericksburg, just south of DC, although that area
extends to the opposite end of Virginia.

-- 
Beartooth the Stubborn <karhunhammas (at) lserv.com>, double retiree,
linux hatchling w/ RH 7.2; ssh'd (DSL) to pine 4.43 on ISP's SunOS 5.8;
Opera 6.02, Pan 0.11.2, Galeon 1.2.5, & Mozilla 1.0
standard disclaimer : Keep in mind that I have no idea what I am talking
about

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From: "Sobocinski, Todd" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:31:45 -0400

I would get a shell on the mail server and kill the offending processes.
Obviously, that requires a shell account on the server.  I'm not aware
of any documentation, but I didn't look too hard either.  It wasn't my
primary responsibility at the time, and the problem was fixed on
upgrade.

It is entirely possible it is a different problem too, since my problem
was with imap.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:38 PM
To: Sobocinski, Todd
Cc: Pine Discussion Forum
Subject: RE: mailbox locked by other session

Problem is I can't kill anything - and I can't logon to the popper
either - tried telnetting there - same story. At least I can't by
telnetting to port 110 and logging in with USER and PASS: the lock
applies there also. Is there a way to just telnet there and see what
processes are running? I suppose I could kill it if I could find it
since I am the owner. My knowledge of the popper commands is very
limited, however, I believe I only know USER, PASS, LIST, DELE (or at
least that's all I remember). Is there any documentation to be found on
this?

Sending mail to myself does seem to help, albeit not immediately - at
least at some point within the next half hour I can get back on again -
so at some point it manages to get unlocked.

 Bruce

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Sobocinski, Todd wrote:

> This has happened to me with imap when the server-side process didn't 
> die, and held onto the mailbox lock.  I bet if you go onto the mail 
> server, you will find your pop3d process still running.  New mail 
> never got delivered for me, because the server-side process still had 
> the lock.  But maybe with the way you lock, new mail was enough to 
> knock your pop3d process out of its reverie and make it quit.  Killing

> the offending pop3d process should fix it though.  (Remove any ".lock"

> files too, if you're using that style of locking.)
>
> Not sure what the ultimate cause of that was though.  The problem went

> away in our last server upgrade, and I don't recall if we ever figured

> out why the server processes were hanging.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Cohen [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:03 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: mailbox locked by other session
>
>
>
> All of a sudden things are happening that have never happened before 
> (pine
> 4.33/pop3): If something happens during the pine session [(1) can't 
> login, waiting for response from server - manually disconnect session;
> (2) while logged in Mailbox closed due to access error] then on the 
> next attempt to run pine I can't login: "Mailbox closed by a pop3 
> session". There is nothing I can do on the unix shell (no pine session

> still running I could kill). It's happened twice so far, the first 
> time I could log in after 5 minutes (new mail had been delivered in 
> the meantime - maybe that was the
> problem) - right now I have waited 10 minutes and still can't log in.
>
> If anything like this has happened in the past, I could always get 
> right back into pine by simply quitting and starting over. The only 
> time I haven't been able to do that is if there is still a pine 
> session running as a ghost which I could see with the command "ps" and

> then kill and log right back on.
>
> I think something has happened on the pop3 side, but what?
>
> (Even if I telnet directly to the popper the same thing happens: can't

> get in, "mailbox locked by other server")
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Cohen
>
>
>
>
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From: Bruce Cohen <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:21:24 +0200 (MET DST)

I have a shell account - and can kill any processes on the shell that
are a problem.

This is different: the process is on the server itself...