Subject: PINE 4.44 for Linux

From: Bret Busby <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:53:15 +0800 (WST)

I have just transferred from PINE 4.21 running on Red Hat Linux 6.2, to 
PINE 4.44 running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. I am in the process of migrating 
from one computer and RH version, to another.

I subscribe to many (about 80) different mailing lists, and have about 
as many different filters (or maybe, a few more). 

When setting up a new filter (Setup->Rules->Filters), the text at the 
top of the page, for the filter name, has 
"Nickname =<No Value Set: using "Filter Rule">" .

When I entered a new filter name, each time, using whatever method 
(typing "c", or "a", or, <ENTER>), the text "Filter Rule" was 
automatically included in the new filter name. This did not occur in 
4.21, and, was a bit of a nuisance in setting up the filters in 4.44, 
especially during the (just over) two hours that it took me to set up 
the new filters. To have existing text automaticaly included in the 
field, for changing, for an existing filter, is appropriate, but, for 
setting up a new filter, having to delete the default field each time, 
gets tedious (and annoying, especially when forgetting and typing in the 
new text, then realising that the default value is prefixing the desired 
text, so having to delete it then) and results in unnecessary additional 
keystrokes.

Could the PINE developers, please restore the procedure that was used in 
4.21, where, when setting up a new filter, the default value for the 
filter name, was not included in the field, when the new filter name was 
being entered, as happens with all the other fields (that I used), apart 
from the name of the folder for the message source (default of INBOX is 
included in the field for editing, which is appropriate)?

Also, can particular configuration data, such as the "Address Book", and 
filters, each be stored in separate files (that is, one file for the 
Address Book, another for the filters, etc), within the mail directory, 
and, therefore, make migration from one version, to a more recent 
version (such as my migration), easier, simpler, and faster? It could be 
an incentive for users to update their versions of PINE, as it would 
make the updating, less inconvenient, and the user could then amend the 
configurations as required, to incorporate expanded features. Given 
that (for example) the filters in 4.44 are more comprehensive than the 
filter options of 4.21, but, still including the options that were in 
4.21, a means of importing the filters as used in 4.21, using a means, 
such as a structured file for the filters, would be good.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Douglas Adams, 1988
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From: Leslie Fairall <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:52:22 -0400 (EDT)

Hi everyone:

I am using pine 4.44 on a Unix shell account. I have it set up to only
show me folders which have new messages. However, my problem is that
folders will be marked as having new messages, but they wind up being
empty. When I exit and restart pine a second time, a different group of
folders show up as having new messages but are actually empty. Can someone
please tell me what might be causing this problem and how I might be able
to solve it? thanks.