Subject: new mail notification broken in readonly mode?

From: Ken Barr <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:26:47 -0700 (PDT)

When I open pine in ReadOnly mode, I receive no
notification of new messages, and I must exit/restart
pine to see them (this is the pop3 behavior, iirc)

However, notification works fine when I start pine in
read/write mode.

I like readonly mode since it preserves flags
(netscape won't filter mail if I've already read it in
Pine).  Is there a way to get both readonly AND new
mail notification?

FYI:
I ssh to my mail server and read mail there.
My mail is stored in /var/mail/kbarr.
My inbox-path is   = <No Value Set: using "inbox">

I have also tried making an IMAP explicit (as the lack
of notification corresponds to the pop3 FAQ) by
setting inbox-path to {server.domain.com/imap}INBOX,
but that doesn't work in readonly either.

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:46:15 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> pine to see them (this is the pop3 behavior, iirc)

This is the expected behavior with the traditional UNIX mailbox format
(and also MMDF format).  Pine does not lock the mailbox when it is
readonly (to allow some other process to open it readwrite), and as a
result Pine can't handle any changes to the mailbox.

You'll probably notice that if a readwrite process changes the mailbox a
readonly Pine session dies a horrid death.

> Pine).  Is there a way to get both readonly AND new

Not in traditional UNIX mailbox format.

The alternative mbx format has a more advanced form of locking which
allows multiple sessions to interoperate, including readonly sessions.

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