Subject: Why does "pine" eat initial periods?

From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:16:27 -0700 (PDT)

If I have an E-mail with:

   ...

at the beginning of the line, Pine only displays:

   ..

always one less period than sent. Does anyone know why this is?

	-Kenny

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From: Mats Dufberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:27:46 +0200 (CEST)

> always one less period than sent. Does anyone know why this is?

Are you sure that it is pine that eats them? Have you looked at the mail
file?

At the SMTP communication, the end of message is signalled by an empty dot
on the last line, that is "<CR><LF>.<CR><LF>" is sent. To be able to
include a line with just one dot, two dots are sent to the SMTP server,
and one dot is remove by the server. To be able to send two dots, three
dots are sent to the SMTP server....

How is the message created and entered into the mail system?

Mats

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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:32:01 -0700 (PDT)

> Are you sure that it is pine that eats them? Have you looked at the mail

Nah, I didn't even suspect. How could I do that?

> How is the message created and entered into the mail system?

"C", then "vi" is invoked, if I then type a line like this:

... this line should have a leading ellipsis (three periods). It'll probably
show up with just two.

	-Kenny, naturally scared when there's missed periods :-)

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From: Jacob Morzinski <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:52:22 -0400 (EDT)

> ... this line should have a leading ellipsis (three periods). It'll probably

It showed up fine in my system, so pine is doing all the right things
to your mail when it sends it out.  You may have some local
misconfiguration in your mail system (not necessarily involving pine)
stripping leading periods when you receive mail.

In a day or two your message should reach the list archives,
 ( http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2002.05/threads.html )
and you'll be able to see for yourself that the periods were preserved.

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 Jacob Morzinski                                [email-masked]

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From: Mats Dufberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:56:47 +0200 (CEST)

> Nah, I didn't even suspect. How could I do that?

Well, now you have all reason to be in doubt.

> ... this line should have a leading ellipsis (three periods). It'll probably

There are three dots just as there should be. It must be on a line by
itself with NO white space after if it is to be effected by the
SMTP-server. I will create three lines, with one, two and three dots,
respectively:

.
..
...

And there was no white space after.

Mats

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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:59:09 -0700 (PDT)

> And there was no white space after.

Grumble. I got all three of those. I guess it's on Panix' end, then?

	-Kenny