Subject: (Background) Colors in Pine

From: Lukas Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:54:36 -0500 (EST)

I tried to send this once already, but I wasn't subscribed to the list.
So, this is my second try...

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Is there a way to change the foreground color for objects in pine without
also having to set a background color?

I'm using pine on FreeBSD, connecting from a Mac OS X box running
Terminal.  The behavior I've been experiencing is:

	1) In order for things to look okay in color mode, I have to set
	   the background color of my terminal application to the same
	   color as most of the background colors in pine or else
	   everything looks weird.

	2) If I use transparent terminal windows, the parts of the screen
	   that are drawn with text are not transparent.  Instead, they
	   are a solid background color.

	3) When I select text with the mouse, to paste into another
	   application, for example, the parts of the screen that have
	   text do not change at all from my highlighting.  They remain
	   the same foreground and background color as they were, making
	   it very hard to distinguish what I selected.

For those not familiar with Terminal, this is a standard terminal
application, not an xterm.  My terminal type is set to vt100 on both the
Mac and on the FreeBSD box that I am sshing to and then running pine.

I don't know if the problem that I'm experiencing is specifically
something wrong with pine.  However, I do know that I don't experience the
same behavior in my shell on either machine using GNU ls with colors.

I am making the assumption that if you could set the foreground color in
pine without also having to specify a new background color (just taking
what the background of the terminal window is) that I would not be having
this problem.

I am also making the assumption that the methods used by pine and GNU ls
to display colors are similar enough that they can be compared in this
way.

If anyone has anything that might help me, I'd love to hear about it.  I'd
also be interested to hear if anyone else experiences this.  It is hard to
find someone with the same setup I have who also uses pine and also uses
colors.

One last thing... if you don't include the things I mentioned above
(selecting text and using transparent windows), if I have the colors setup
so the background color of my window matches the default background color
setting in pine, I have no other display issues.  I mention this because I
saw a bunch of people talking about color display issues on FreeBSD, and
I'm not having any of those same issues.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

/l

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Lukas Karlsson                                             [email-masked]
Cambridge, MA	                                           http://lukwam.com/

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