Subject: JPEGs (fwd)

From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:24:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

I recently recieved this email.  It claims to be
771KB, but the visible attachments are just a
short text file and a short html file.

Reading through the actual content, it looks like
Pine is ignoring the multipart/appledouble
attachment rather than treating it as
multipart/mixed (which is what the RFC says it is
supposed to do).

-Alex-

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S. Alexander Jacobson                   i2x Media
1-212-787-1914 voice                    1-603-288-1280 fax

Subject: JPEGs
From: AG <[email-masked]>
To: "S. Alexander Jacobson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:05:28 -0500

I¹ve converted these TIFFs to JPEGs. Let me know if you can open them.

a
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Ayola Greene

IR17;ve converted these TIFFs to JPEGs. Let me know if you can open them.

a

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Ayola Greene

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From: James <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:15:08 -0800 (PST)

So did you really have to send the whole 774 KB to everyone on the list?
Some of us are out here at the end of slow phone lines, you know.

James

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From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:27:40 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

Sorry about that.  I was originally intending to
put it up on a website somewhere, but I wasn't
paying attention at the time.  Sorry.

-Alex-

PS Pine doesn't download attachments unless you
request them, I think, so this shouldn't have been
too bad... Am I wrong?

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From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:29:04 -0500 (EST)

> request them, I think, so this shouldn't have been

I think Pine doesn't include attachements in REPLYs (unless you set a
configuration option).  However, it does do so for FORWARDed messages.  I
couldn't see an option to turn-off forwarding.  I also got the whole 774K
attachement so it does look like this was sent out to the whole list.

> > > short text file and a short html file.

========================================================================
Nicholas Birkett, M.D., M.Sc.
Epidemiology and Community Medicine
University of Ottawa                        [email-masked]
451 Smyth Rd.,                              (613)-562-5800 x 8289 (voice)
Ottawa, Ontario,                            (613)-562-5465          (fax)
Canada.   K1H 8M5
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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:59:48 -0800 (PST)

> Some of us are out here at the end of slow phone lines, you know.

What pine version are you using?

4.4X, which I use, won't attempt to get attachments unless you specifically
wish to see 'em.

	-Kenny

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Home1: PO Box 914         Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914         [email-masked]
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From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:22:49 -0500 (EST)

> What pine version are you using?

I use 3.95 on UNIX for routine use.  I also have version 4.33 in UNIX.
That version lets you disable 'viewing' attachements and disable sending
them with an 'fcc'.  However, I can't see any option to disable including
them in a 'forward' of a message.

> 4.4X, which I use, won't attempt to get attachments unless you specifically

If I understand this statement, it won't apply to UNIX systems since the
e-mail message is downloaded to my mailbox by Sendmail not by pine.
Whether it would prevent a PC-pine from copying the message from an ISP
server, I'm not sure.

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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:01:00 -0800 (PST)

> e-mail message is downloaded to my mailbox by Sendmail not by pine.

Ah- you're reading from a spool.

I'm also running the *NIX version, but I access my spool via IMAP, as it's
stored via Panix in NYC via their high-speed connection. IMAP won't get
the attachments unless they're specifically downloaded.

	-Kenny

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From: Dan Hatton <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:26:15 +0000 (GMT)

> > 4.4X, which I use, won't attempt to get attachments unless you specifically

Checking the release notes, this doesn't seem to be a change since my
version (4.21,) so I guess my comment might be relevant.  When I access my
remote POP3 inbox, Pine appears to have to transfer the full content of
the attachment during the process of sorting the folder index.  Is this an
intrinsic limitation of POP3, or am I missing something in Pine
configuration?

Thanks

Dan Hatton

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			Graduate Student

E-Mail:			[email-masked]

World-Wide Web:		http://www.bib.hatton.btinternet.co.uk/dan/

Surface Mail:		Wolfson Court,
			Girton College,
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From: Mats Dufberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:37:42 +0100 (CET)

> intrinsic limitation of POP3, or am I missing something in Pine

That is a limitation of POP. The POP protocol does not know anything about
MIME or the inside structure of the mail body. The only thing that the POP
protocol knows about is header and body, which means that you can download
just the header or the entire mail message (or you could download just a
certain number of lines of the body, but that is only meaningful for
traditional text messages).

Mats

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From: James <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:07:55 -0800 (PST)

> request them, I think, so this shouldn't have been

I suppose that depends on how your mail is set up.  Because I have the
slow line, and only one of them (and can't get more without digging a
LONG trench and running cable), I don't even try to read mail when I'm
on-line.  Instead I just download everything in the background, and
read it at my leisure, offline.

James