Subject: Error message: "Message to save shrank"

From: "Bárdos, Attila" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:26:08 +0100 (Central Europe Standard Time)

Dear All,

Could you please help to find the reason and the fix (or workaround) for
the following problem?

When I try to save a message from my INBOX to a local mail folder, for
some of the messages I get the following error message: "Message to save
shrank!  (#10: 6100 --> 6070)" (of course the message index and the size
info may differ) and Pine refuses to save the message.

Some background information:

I use PC-Pine 4.40.
The mail server is a Microsoft Exchange server.
I had this error sometimes formerly, but now I get it for most of
the messages in the INBOX.
I don't know if the mail server has been changed or updated recently, but
it might cause problems.
It is still persist.
It is always reproducible.
I had no idea about the exact meaning of the error message so I didn't try
to solve the problem.

The problem is quite annoying since I can't backup my messages.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Best regards,
Attila Bardos
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From: "John A. Kunze" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:08:29 -0800 (PST)

Is there an easy way to jump to the last message of the inbox?

Seems it would be nice if J suggested/used the last message by default.

Rationale:  My inbox is often cluttered with messages marked as new
because they look low priority and I haven't gotten to them.  But each
morning I'm most interested in new messages that are recent (near the
end).  I'm looking for a quick way to get there without squinting at
the number of messages and transcribing it into a jump command.

-John

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From: Murphy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:26:58 +0100 (MET)

>Is there an easy way to jump to the last message of the inbox?
(cut)

Only what I can recomend is to change the sorting method.

Regards,
Murphy

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From: Joel Boonstra <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:32:03 -0500 (EST)

> the number of messages and transcribing it into a jump command.

I always just mash the spacebar till I get to the end of my INBOX.  Not
very graceful, but it works.

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From: Jakub Chromy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:50:05 +0100 (CET)

> Only what I can recomend is to change the sorting method.

Just press <ctrl> + <v>.

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From: bill hunter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:02:18 -0700 (MST)

> the number of messages and transcribing it into a jump command.

Your header probably says something like:

PINE 4.31  MESSAGE INDEX             Folder: INBOX  Message XX of YY

Where YY is the number of messages in your inbox? Hit J followed by that
number

or

hit control+w / control+v, just like in pico to reach the end of file...

-bill

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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:05:41 -0600 (CST)

>Seems it would be nice if J suggested/used the last message by default.

In config (Main -> Setup -> Config), there is an option
"incoming-startup-rule" which determine where your cursor are when you
open an incoming mailbox. It have option for "last" message and
"first-recent" message, which probably what you want.

Other than that, manually you can type <ctrl>+<W><V>.

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From: Kenneth Crudup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:37:33 -0800 (PST)

> Is there an easy way to jump to the last message of the inbox?

I use "W Ctrl-V".

	-Kenny

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From: "John A. Kunze" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:12:55 -0800 (PST)

Thanks to everyone who replied.  This reply gets to exactly what I needed.

It would be nice if J <cr> were the same as <ctrl-W> <Ctrl-V> for the
inbox list.

-John