Subject: PGP/MIME

From: Paul Jakma <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:19:14 +0100 (IST)

hi,

just wondering if PGP/MIME support is planned for Pine, or
alternatively to set display filters for a MIME part based on type?

PGP interoperability with mutt and kmail users is slightly
difficult, unfortunately. (has to be done by hand, and i can't verify
sigs).

regards,

Paul Jakma.

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From: "Mike A. Harris" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:47:56 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Paul Jakma wrote:

>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:19:14 +0100 (IST)
>From: Paul Jakma <[email-masked]>
>To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
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>Subject: PGP/MIME
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>hi,
>

PINE's display filters as you say are the way to go.  I believe 
the PINE FAQ states encryption software will never be included in 
PINE directly.

Red Hat Linux PINE ships with pgp/gpg support by default, so if 
you're using our distro, your PINE is already ready for GPG/PGP.

Hope this helps,
TTYL

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From: Silviu Cojocaru <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:37:42 +0300

Tuesday, September 25, 2001, 9:19:14 PM, Paul Jakma wrote:

> just wondering if PGP/MIME support is planned
> for Pine, or alternatively to set display
> filters for a MIME part based on type?

Why do you need PGP/MIME support  anyway ? To
encrypt/sign/decrypt use Pine's pgp/gpg support.
More on this should be found in Pine's docs, or
you could ask the gpg discussion list members.

G'luck!

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From: Paul Jakma <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:35:05 +0100 (IST)

> the PINE FAQ states encryption software will never be included in

i accept that..

however, how do i verify a signed multipart PGP/MIME encrypted email?

in fact, how do i use a display filter on a MIME part in general?

the support isn't there.

> you're using our distro, your PINE is already ready for GPG/PGP.

i've got pgp4pine setup, works great. but i can't use it as a filter
for PGP/MIME parts, cause, afaict, there is no way to set display
filters for mime parts in pine.

> TTYL

--paulj

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From: Paul Jakma <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:38:19 +0100 (IST)

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote:

> Why do you need PGP/MIME support  anyway ?

[snip]

> To

what would that be? if you mean display filters, yep, i have pgp4pine
working fine.

however, that still leaves PGP/MIME. why do i want support for it, or
more generically, ability to use display filters for mime parts.

why PGP/MIME? cause more and more mailers are using it. eg mutt,
kmail, that gnome GUI mail client, etc. and cause it's the now RFC
mandated way to use PGP with email.

> you could ask the gpg discussion list members.

it's a pine problem unfortunately, afaict - need display filters for
MIME.

> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> gpg: Signature made Wed 26 Sep 2001 04:37:40 PM IST using DSA key ID 3DEEB7ED
> gpg: Good signature from "Silviu Cojocaru <[email-masked]>"
> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!

tsk tsk...

:)

> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
> gpg: Fingerprint: 51A0 D288 DD40 BE63 AEB4  06F0 F160 4636 3DEE B7ED

--paulj

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From: Silviu Cojocaru <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 00:16:52 +0300

Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 12:10:50 AM ,
Paul Jakma wrote about "PGP/MIME":

> why PGP/MIME? cause more and more mailers are using it. eg
> mutt, kmail, that gnome GUI mail client, etc. and cause it's
> the now RFC mandated way to use PGP with email.

Damn I've been off Linux for a long time :(

Well, I see the mailers of Windows world, and they don't really
support PGP/MIME.  Well Eudora does have some support but it's
rather buggy. Other use PGP/GPG plug-ins and support S/MIME, but
they do it very well... well at least my mailer does :)

>> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!

Well sign my key :P Pay me a ticket from Bucharest to where you
live so we can exchange keys face to face :)))

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From: Paul Jakma <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:53:33 +0100 (IST)

> they do it very well... well at least my mailer does :)

there are indeed a good few plugins to windows MUA's and even MTA's
(eg Lotus Notes) to provide PGP support.

we use PGP a /lot/ here for business purposes to trade files securely
with partners. however, we're often plagued by incompatibilities. :(
the fact that even mutt and pine can not interoperate transparently
wrt to PGP is sad.

MIME display filter support would be so nice. (but that still leaves
PGP/MIME signature support.)

> live so we can exchange keys face to face :)))

i've signed your key and uploaded to wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net. even if we
met face to face i still could not say for certain that you were the
rightful owner of the key.

however, on the basis that you are a regular poster to this forum,
i've signed your key, still no web of trust between us though. :)

--paulj

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From: Silviu Cojocaru <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 19:20:04 +0200

Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 7:16:42 PM ,

> rightful owner of the key.

Sure we could. You show me your passport and I'll show mine,
we'll need some training with customs' workers though ;)

> i've signed your key, still no web of trust between us though. :)

Ok, thanks :)

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