Subject: suggestion on sigdashes

From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:57:42 -0700 (PDT)

Hello,

  This is a suggestion for the Pine team, but I would like to know what
everyone else thinks, so I'm sending it here.

  I have just forwarded a message, and the signature was put at the top,
while my forwarded message at the bottom, regardless of the fact that I
have "signature at bottom" enabled (yes, I know that this is not respected
when forwarding, but keep reading).

  Now, here's the problem. If the person that I forwarded the message to
has  [X]  strip-from-sigdashes-on-reply, then that person will not be
able to quote the forwarded message, because it will be stripped. I have 3
suggestions in order to solve this problem:

 - To make the "strip-from-sigdashes" configuration option, really a
   "strip-paragraph-with-sigdashes" option only.

 - To not to strip from sigdashes for forwarded messages, assuming that
   you can reliably recognize one.

 - Put the signature at the bottom and before the signature add a string
   that says something like "--- End of forwarded message".

  Any comments?

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: Mohit Agarwal <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:17:31 +0530 (IST)

>    "strip-paragraph-with-sigdashes" option only.

I think that this might be rather undesirable (for replying).  On some
mailing lists there are a few lines of text (without sigdashes) appended
to every mail, which appear in a paragraph after the signature (if
present).  The signature will be stripped off, but the appended text will
still need to be deleted manually.  Moreover, although RFC1855 suggests
that the signature be short, it's not uncommon to come across real huge
sigs that have blank lines (i.e. more than one paragraph).

>    you can reliably recognize one.

This would definitely be very useful, maybe one additional prompt
(slightly annoying, though)

   strip-from-sigdashes[*]   [Y]es  No

would do the trick.

[*]  The default would be set according to configuration options.

-- 
Mohit

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From: Frank Tobin <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:14:53 -0500 (CDT)

Eduardo Chappa, at 11:57 -0700 on Mon, 2 Apr 2001, wrote:

Perhaps we should fix the problem, not try to alleviate a symptom?
Forwards should have the sig at the bottom (or no sig at all, possibly).

Eh, I've seen a lot more than paragraphs in some sigs.  The concept of a
paragrph may not be well-defined, either.  Ah, what I wouldn't give for
email to have semantic markup...

Can we say fraught with potential error?  There is no standard.... Once
again, semantics...(or MIME).

This is probably the best option.

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Frank Tobin		http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/