Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 1011

From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:24 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 [email-masked] wrote:
>From: James <[email-masked]>
>I have both Linux and Windoze installed on my machine, and would like to
>have both access the same mail files, so that I won't have to quit Linux
>to look at the mail I received while I was running Windoze, or vice
>versa.

If you access your mail with IMAP rather than POP, it won't matter WHAT
operating system you're running when you get mail, since it will all
be on the server.

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From: James <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:33:18 -0800 (PST)

> operating system you're running when you get mail, since it will all

Thanks, but that's not how I'm set up.  My access to the mail server is
through a modem.  Any mail received is downloaded to my machine before I
see it, so I can read it at my leisure and not tie up the single phone
line more than necessary.

All the mail I want to work with exists in various Pine "folders" (*.mtx
files) on my machine, so I would think I ought to be able to access them
(and indeed I can look at them with an editor, and don't notice any
obvious differences between the ones Pine can read and the ones it
can't).  So what's the trick?

Thanks,
James

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From: "Daniel Sands" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:14 -0700

> can't).  So what's the trick?

Maybe the ^M's at the end of the line?  DOS text does this, *nix
doesn't.  Thank you, Bill Gates!

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From: James <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:38:51 -0800 (PST)

> doesn't.  Thank you, Bill Gates!

I'll look at it, but I'd be surprised if that had anything to do with
it, since the files are stored in Pine's internal format.  And after
all, any decent mail program has to be able to handle mail that was
created on either Unix or Windoze systems (or on anything else, like IBM
mainframes that use non-ASCII character sets).

James

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From: "Daniel Sands" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:47 -0700

> mainframes that use non-ASCII character sets).

They must deal with external mail, of course.  But on the local machine they
could store it in EBCDIC if they wanted to.  It's actually quite easy to write
the wrong formatting if you use the fopen, fread, etc. C calls.  In UNIX,
binary and text files are treated equally anymore, so nobody thinks of
including the extra "b" to read/write binary files.  So DOS writes a text
file, replacing every \n with \n\r.  Whether this is the case with PC-PINE, I
don't know, but I wouldn't be at all surprised.