Subject: A few suggestions, and a comment about the FAQ

From: Matt Ackeret <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:55:52 -0800 (PST)

The prompt is:
Select New, Deleted, Answered, or Important messages ?                         

Is that *implying* that those are the key equivs for those commands?
Because, important messages are really selected with *

The capital letters sure made me THINK those were the equivs.

Also, it sure would be nice if we could turn on automatic help (i.e. the
menu at the bottom) for SOME prompts.  Or maybe it'd be easier if we could
turn it OFF for some prompts, then all others it'd be on.

Like most of the time I don't want the 2 lines wasted..  but for something like
the ; menu and submenus, I've only been using them recently, and if it were
always on, great.

Suggestion:  Add a "T" for "To you" in the Status submenu, or the Text submenu..
you can make arguments where it should go (since it's not an IMAP status
thing)..  And yes, I realize I can do
;[email-masked]

But pine already shows me the helpful little "+", so having another faster
way of doing the same thing is not out of line.

I guess I'll send this next one to the pine FAQ address, but 
this section is not the most obvious in the world, even to a big CLI geek
like me:

  9.5 How do I change my 'From:' line?   
   
   From Pine's [M]AIN MENU, choose [S]etup, then [C]onfig. Move down to
   the [17]customized-hdrs option. Press "A Add Value". Use the format:
        From: "My Real Name" <[email-masked]>
                 
   Note: You may wish to add 'From:' to the list of
   [18]default-composer-hdrs so you can change the From line more easily
   when composing new messages. The process is the same as for adding the
   "From:" line to the customized-hdrs entry.     

   Press Return to accept the change, and "E Exit Setup".
     
   Beginning with Pine 4.30, changing of the "from" value is allowed by
   default.

Because, after I add the From: address to my customized-hdrs 
entry, now the ONLY header I see when I compose a new message is 
an editable From: line..  Not From: added as well as the 4 normal ones.

Now, I guess I can (1) clear out that field, (2) compose a new message, 
(3) write a list of what headers it puts in by default, (4) go back to prefs
and add in the From: line AS WELL as the headers I see in #3..

But I just decided to be lazy and wait until the network at work is back up..
(I'm trying to set up my non-network user with all of the prefs I need..)

I hope none of this is considered as whining, I do not mean for it to be
taken that way.

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:09:51 -0800 (PST)

> and add in the From: line AS WELL as the headers I see in #3..

It looks like you may have also added your From: line to the
default-composer-hdrs section.  Here's what the help says for that option:

                                OPTION: Default-Composer-Headers

You can decide which headers you want visible when composing outgoing
email using this option. You can specify any of the regular set, any rich
header or any custom header which you have already defined. If you use
this setting at all, you must specify all the headers you want to see, you
can't just add to the regular header set. The default set is To:, Cc:,
Attchmnt:, and Subject:.

So if you added the From: line there, it's doing what it's supposed to.
But if the default-composer-hdrs is empty and you've only added it to the
customized-hdrs, then you may have found a bug.

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:27:21 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> >    >> Pine FAQ [9.5] <<
> >    default-composer-hdrs so you can change the From line more easily
> <snip>
<snipped help>
> customized-hdrs, then you may have found a bug.

i support adding to the FAQ an explaination that if you do add just
"From:"  to the default-composer-hdrs that it will only show "From:", and
that you need to list all the headers (To, Cc, Attchmnt, Subject) you want
to see.  however, i'm not too worried about problems with this.  i think
it's pretty intuitive.

aaron