Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication

From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:22:00 -0700

Thanks for the info - I would just ask my admin how to do it , but he 
has no clue right now. The authentication (which is that password 
authentication, not the POP thing) was just implemented yesterday and 
the Pine issue caught the computer center by suprise. Not many people 
use it any more, so the computer center does not support it. Since I am 
one of the most vocal computer center student-staff Pine users, I have 
been asked to check into the possibility of just resloving the problem 
instead of upgrading to a newer version of pine. 

So it sounds like you are telling me that it is possible using Pine 
4.05, but that I need to have the permissions changed so that I can 
edit my smtp-server line in my .pinerc file. Is that correct?
   Thanks again!
        Jerad
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication

> There are two types of SMTP authentication that I know of.  The first,
> which you're trying to enable, is regular password authentication. 
> The
> second is POP-before-SMTP (or something like that), and requires 
> you to
> first access your INBOX with POP3 before sending something with SMTP.
> 
> If the method your school uses is the first, then what you're 
> trying to do
> should work when your sysadmin allows you to modify your SMTP 
> server.  But
> rather than just asking the sysadmin to let you change the value, 
> I'd tell
> him what you're trying to do (enable SMTP authentication).  He 
> might know
> how best to do that for your SMTP server.
> 
> -- 
> Scott Leibrand
> [email-masked]
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> > Howdy-
> >     My university recently started requiring SMTP 
> authentication. Does
> > pine 4.05 (Unix) support this? I tried changing my .pinerc file by
> > adding my username to the end of my smtp-server line (smtp-
> server =
> > smtp.example/user=user.name.here) but evidently that value is a 
> sys-
> > admin defined value. At this point I am just wondering if it is
> > possible and how it can be done. I can talk to my sysadmin later 
> if he
> > needs to do something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
> >      Jerad

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:02:27 -0800 (PST)

First of all, upgrading is not difficult at all.  You just get and compile
the new version and put the binary somewhere where everyone can access it.
Once you're sure the new version works, you replace the old binary with
the new one.

I don't really know if SMTP authentication was possible in 4.05.  It's
been quite a while since I used that version, and I never had to do SMTP
auth.

Regardless of which version of Pine you use, you'll need to reconfigure
the system-wide configuration files to either allow users to change their
SMTP server or have the correct SMTP server for SMTP auth.  From what
you've described, it sounds like your system's pine.conf.fixed has the
SMTP server set, and therefore you can't change it.  The easiest fix is to
remove the SMTP server variable from pine.conf.fixed and put it it
pine.conf instead.  This will let users like you, who need to use SMTP
auth, change your SMTP server value to the correct one for SMTP auth.  The
ideal solution, if you can get it to work, would be to set a value for
SMTP server in pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed that includes a user variable,
such as "smtp.server.edu/user=$username".  I'm not sure if that'll work,
though, or what variable you'd need to use.

-- 
Scott Leibrand
[email-masked]
http://students.washington.edu/leibrand
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