Subject: One addressbook?

From: Christopher Vickery <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:52:11 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

I found that Pine will not let an addressbook be used as the
local addressbook for one system and as an IMAP-accessible
addressbook from another system.  (I'm not sure why.)  What
is the preferred way, then, to have a "master" address book
that is used and mangaged from 2-3 different systems?

Chris Vickery

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:08:26 -0800 (PST)

*** Christopher Vickery ([email-masked]) wrote in the pine-info...:

:) I found that Pine will not let an addressbook be used as the
:) local addressbook for one system and as an IMAP-accessible
:) addressbook from another system.  (I'm not sure why.)  What
:) is the preferred way, then, to have a "master" address book
:) that is used and mangaged from 2-3 different systems?

You are right, you can not use the same addressbook for both systems. The
problem is that they have different formats. An addressbook in a remote
system looks pretty much like a folder, whose messages are the state of
the addressbook at different times.

  What I would recommend is to copy your local addressbook to be the
remote addressbook and use only your remote addressbook. Directions on how
to copy your local addressbook to a remote one can be found in Gopi's web
page:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/

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From: Christopher Vickery <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:08:50 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

My apologies for being so dense, but I seem to be missing
something basic.  I had no trouble ftping ~/.addressbook
from my Unix account to my PC, and PC-pine uses it very
happily as its "Personal AddressBook in C:\Program
Files\Pine\addrbook."  No conversion issues showed up, so
I'm missing something there about different formats.  But
more importantly (to me, anyway) is how to "use only your
remote addressbook."  The one at ~/.addressbook on my Unix
account is really the only one I want to use, but then I get
into the problem that it is a local addressbook when I'm
using Pine from the Unix account, but an IMAP addressbook
when I'm using PC-pine, and that's apparently not an allowed
configuration.  And I do get errors from PC-pine when I try
to use it, either that it is not accessible or that it is
read-only.

Any help on how to proceed?

Chris Vickery

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From: Gopi Sundaram <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:16:30 -0500 (EST)

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Christopher Vickery wrote:

> The one at ~/.addressbook on my Unix account is really the only
> one I want to use, but then I get into the problem that it is a
> local addressbook when I'm using Pine from the Unix account, but
> an IMAP addressbook when I'm using PC-pine, and that's apparently
> not an allowed configuration.

Here's the low-down:

A remote-addressbook is a file that is in the form of an email
message, so that it can be accessed via IMAP. If you look at the file
in which it is stored, you will see that it has regular mail headers,
and a message-body that contains all the addressbook info.

Your local addressbook is stored in a different format than that. It
cannot be accessed via IMAP.

What you should do is convert your local addressbook on Unix to a
remote-addressbook. There are instructions on my webpage (see
signature). You may then choose to delete your local addressbook on
Unix. Now all you should have is an addressbook which is in the
remote-addressbook format (mail message file).

You should then configure Pine to always use a remote addressbook,
regardless of whether you are on Unix or using a PC. So, even if you
are logged into the machine which you access your mail from via IMAP
and the addressbook is a local file (but not a local addressbook!),
you still use the IMAP protocol through the network to access your
addressbook.

-- 
Gopi Sundaram
[email-masked]

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From: Christopher Vickery <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:16:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

OK, I've got it!  Gopi's web site was down this morning, so
I couldn't get the info from there, but understanding what
this thing about different formats for local and
imap-accessible addressbooks finally got me on the right
track -- and finally that 'Z' option on the setup menu made
sense.  Many thanks!!

Chris Vickery

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Gopi Sundaram wrote:

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