Subject: Pine 4.21 feature not in PC-Pine 4.21?

From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:23:49 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

The feature I'm referring to is Pine's beginning of the month, move the
sent-mail mailbox feature (I don't know the official name).

Does PC-Pine have this feature to ask the user to move/delete the old
sent-mail mailbox that Pine does?  I'm finding that users using PC-Pine
are bloating their sent-mail folder, and I'm trying to figure out a
solution.  Any ideas?

Can anyone confirm this for me?

Thanks,

Robert

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:15:25 -0400 (EDT)

it all depends how you have PC-Pine configured.  can PC-Pine see your
Remote Folders?  Does PC-Pine save sent-mail to a local Collection?

aaron

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:30:47 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

PC-Pine does see all the remote folders, and PC-Pine saves sent-mail only
to remote folders.  We don't want it saving to local collection because
our faculty travel w/laptops a lot, and saving to local would limit access
to sent-mail when on the road.

Does that help?

RCL

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:52:54 -0400 (EDT)

it does help.

there are other experts lurking around here, that can answer your
question.  but what does the pruned-folders settin say in [S]etup
[C]onfig?

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Robert Larmon wrote:

> PC-Pine does see all the remote folders, and PC-Pine saves sent-mail
> only to remote folders.  We don't want it saving to local collection
> because our faculty travel w/laptops a lot, and saving to local would
> limit access to sent-mail when on the road.
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> RCL
>

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:08:43 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

no value set

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:15:50 -0400 (EDT)

<no value set>  is a good sign.

check your pinerc file to see what the following entry says:

last-time-prune-questioned=

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:20:28 -0700 (PDT)

The proper value for last-time-prune-questioned is 100.10 (that's 100
years and 10 months since 1900).  If the value is higher, set it to 100.10
or 100.9 (if you want to prune immediately instead of next month).

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:21:51 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

it says 100.10.

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT)

I think the next step, then, is to do the following:

 - Set last-time-prune-questioned to 100.9
 - Start Pine with the -d 9 flag (pine -d 9)
 - Once you get to the main menu, quit and examine the .pine-debug1 file.
Hopefully there'll be some information in there as to why it wasn't able
to prune your sent-mail folder.

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:02:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Okay, tried that.  Here's what I think is the output in question...

13:47:02
==== expire_mail called ====

13:47:02
Current month 24009

13:47:02
---- write_pinerc ----

13:47:02
write_pinerc: pinerc_written = 971729224

This section seems to call what I think is the correct function.  I still
don't get a prompt.  I am going to try using the pruned-folders right now
to see if that helps at all.  Just a reminder, this does work in regular
4.21, just not PC-Pine 4.21.  Any other suggestions or areas in the pine
debug file?

Thanks,

Robert

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:28:04 -0700 (PDT)

I'm not sure what the 24009 means, but it could mean your system's date is
wrong.  Check to make sure it's still October 2000.

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:30:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Yep, it says Oct 16th, 2000.  (Win98SE, all critical/security/etc patches
except IE 5.5)

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:32:23 -0700 (PDT)

Ok.  I can't think of anything else.  Someone else's turn.

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From: Henrik Edlund <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:38:19 +0200 (CEST)

24009 months equals the number of months from 0000-00-00 until 2000-09-30.

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:48:25 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Just one more thing, typing in sent-mail in the pruned folder list does
work in PC-Pine, although I don't think that's how it's meant to
work.  Unless anyone has any other insight, should this be submitted as a
bug?

RCL

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:49:04 -0400 (EDT)

back to the folder collections strategy:

how many folder collections do you have?

aaron

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From: Robert Larmon <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:59:10 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

I have an incoming folder collection and a saved mail folder collection.  
I just started a third collection this month (local), so that should have
no bearing on the case.  The inbox is separated from the saved mail
folders.

RCL

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From: Mike Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:30:25 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Does PC Pine support Kerberos?

thanks,
Mike

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From: Gopi Sundaram <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:02:08 -0400 (EDT)

> Does PC Pine support Kerberos?

http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/sysadmins.html#10.3

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