Subject: space-to-next-message

From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:50:36 -0700 (PDT)

Ok, now I'm confused by pine's behavior.  I was trying to use it as an
example of the behavior I *want*, but now it seems like it doesn't
do what I want and in fact acts strangely.

1) Is space supposed to go to the next message when you are just spacing
through messages?  (i.e. hit the end of one message)

I want it _NOT_ to, and I had thought that this was actually pine's behavior.

Space DOES seem to go to the next message IF you have other new messages..
otherwise it just stays there at the end of the message you're viewing.

HOWEVER, even when you space at the end of the message, and it says
                          [Already at end of message]
it MARKS YOUR MESSAGE AS DELETED, _WITHOUT_ showing "DEL" in the upper
right hand corner (nor saying message marked deleted or anything).

This seems awfully bad to me, and can cause data loss since the 
user didn't realize their message was marked deleted.

and my original question remains -- is there any way I can space through
messages (to do paging), but NEVER go to the next message nor mark messages
deleted?

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT)

Disable these two options in Main, Setup, Config:

            [ ]  enable-cruise-mode
            [ ]  enable-cruise-mode-delete

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Scott Leibrand wrote:

>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
>To: [email-masked]
>Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: space-to-next-message
>

Ok.. I was pretty dang sure I had seen this functionality in the preferences
before.. but wow, those aren't named very logically!

Also, being able to have #2 enabled without #1 enabled seems bad..  which
is exactly how I had it set.  Seems to me that the latter should be
dependant upon the former being set.

PLUS, even with this functionality, the problem of not seeing "DEL" at the
top of the screen still remains.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT)

*** [email-masked] wrote in the pine-info list about "Re:
space-to-next-message" today:

:) PLUS, even with this functionality, the problem of not seeing "DEL" at the
:) top of the screen still remains.

But the top of the screen refers only to the current message, if you press
the space bar you go to another message, so DEL does not apply to that
message yet. Maybe what you are thinking of is some kind of message at the
bottom of the screen that says something like "previous read message
marked deleted" or something like that.

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Eduardo
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From: David Rientjes <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:19:23 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

>dependant upon the former being set.

I agree.  Perhaps in the future it will be possible to allow preferences
to be set if others are set (i.e. if enable-cruise-mode-delete is set by
the user, enable-cruise-mode is also set).  This way the only way to have
the resultant behavior as you did would be to actually edit the
"pinerc" file yourself and set them manually.

There would be other uses for this as well: such as enabling
expunge-without-confirm when expunge-without-confirm-everywhere is
enabled.

-- David Rientjes