Subject: Re: Charsets, Pine for Unix, and Unicode

From: Bob Rasmussen <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:38:49 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Antonopoulos Panagiotis wrote:

> Actually, I too, use several languages and would like to be able to see
> Greek properly displayed in pine, just as French, German and Italian.  As
> I am not a technical person, I do not know much of the program
> difficulties, but I would certainly appreciate having this ability and
> convenience within pine.

At this point, it would seem that you have two options, assuming that your
terminal emulator is able to display the necessary character sets:

1) For each message that you view, manually change your terminal program to
match its character set to the character set of the message. For the languages
you mention, this should not be too difficult.

2) Set up "display filters" -- for each charset, have a program that either 

   a) sends an escape sequence to set the terminal program to the right
charset, or
   b) translates the data from its incoming charset to one the the terminal
program can handle.

The appeal of a Unicode UTF-8 solution would be that it could be done once and
would then handle everything from Syriac to Inuktitut.

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From: "Robert Dwyer - Inhealth Record Systems" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:58:47 -0400

I know this is more of a terminal issue than a PINE one, but I am curious to
know whether anyone else has experienced it.  I am using Wyse 50 & 60
terminals using a Wyse 50+ personality on our DG/UX system.

When I quit PINE, it sends control characters to the terminal that changes
the write protected character attributes to Normal (instead of Dim) and
turns the Reverse display on.  Is there any way to prevent this from
happening?  Or is there any easy way (other than going into setup) to
reverse this??

Robert Dwyer
Inhealth Record Systems
Atlanta, GA

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From: Bob Rasmussen <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT)

> happening?  Or is there any easy way (other than going into setup) to

This is most likely a problem in how your termcap or terminfo entry for Wyse50
is set up. Pine can be compiled to use either termcap or terminfo; determining
which one is being used can be tricky.

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From: Steve Hubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:16:32 -0700 (PDT)

The DG/UX port uses terminfo. When a terminfo pine quits it sends the
terminfo "rmcup" string to the display.

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