Subject: Saved messages storage

From: Stephen Clay <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:33:30 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
text-file for backup?

Steve

P.S.  Oops, just checked and my PC-Pine functions a bit differently at
home.  Where it hangs at work if the network is down, at home if I decline
the dailup prompt I can get in there and compose and all that.  Sorry to
bug y'all 'bout that.

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT)

*** Stephen Clay wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) Is it possible to export a whole folder full of messages to a single
:) text-file for backup?

I don't think I understand your question. A folder is by definition a file
full of messages. You better backup through the command line.

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From: Stephen Clay <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:37:01 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

> full of messages. You better backup through the command line.

Let's say I want to backup all my sent messages in plain-text
form.  I know I can export a single message, but can I do this and have
the export target file appended so that *all* the messages in the
sent-mail folder go to *one* text file?

I know the mail folders must be stored w/ some sort of compression
because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

Steve

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From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT)

> because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

On our UNIX system, the saved message folders (and named folders) are all
stored as plain ASCII files which can be read directly by word processors 
(they are in the 'mail' sub-directory off my home directory).
The messages are not organized in the nice layout on the pine screen but
they are readable.

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:15:48 -0700 (PDT)

> because I can't find individual files for my local mail folders.

Depending on where your mail folders are stored, they may or may not be
accessible from the command line or via FTP.  (For example, many IMAP
servers don't allow rsh, ssh, or FTP access.)

To export all the messages in a folder to a single text file, you can use
Pine's aggregate operations.  First you have to enable them in Main,
Setup, Config.  (I usually do a Whereis for "agg".)  Then you can open the
folder, press ; to select, A to select All, then A to Apply a command, and
E to apply the Export command.

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From: Stephen Clay <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:27:44 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

> E to apply the Export command.

Works perfectly.  Thanks!

Steve

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From: Jim Worthington <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:50:09 -0400 (EDT)

The way I do it is slightly different - I select a list using ";" then
choose the Apply command, Forward, and choose "yes" to "forward as mime
journal?" prompt.  it becomes one file
	A question of my own - how to attach another email message to one
I'm composing; I tried ^T, went to my sent mail folder, but it would only
attach the entire folder, not let me open it and select a message.
Suggestions?  Thanks

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:12:56 -0700 (PDT)

*** Jim Worthington wrote in the pine-info list today:

:) 	A question of my own - how to attach another email message to one
:) I'm composing; I tried ^T, went to my sent mail folder, but it would only
:) attach the entire folder, not let me open it and select a message.
:) Suggestions?  Thanks

You can not attach a message, unless of course you export it first, and
then attach the exported file. However, you can always include, in the
message, other messages in the same folder you are using to compose. You
need to know, however, the number of that message. Press ^R^W to do so.

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From: John Berthels <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:41:18 +0100 (BST)

> need to know, however, the number of that message. Press ^R^W to do so.

If you enable full headers (press H) and then forward a message you get a
prompt as to whether you want to forward as an attachment.

jb