Subject: GUI

From: Claus Atzenbeck <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:57:44 +0100 (CET)

I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is
still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface
for pine under X?

Regards,
Claus.

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From: Satya <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:02:36 +0530 (IST)

> still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface

Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user
interface?

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From: Topher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:04:03 -0500 (EST)

> Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user

That's an excellent point, and I dearly love it.  However, there are
some things that it doesn't do (like macros), so I made something to do it
for me.  I use Eterm as my terminal program, and I made a Pine Theme for
it.  All it *really* is is a menu at the top that allows me to string
together a bunch of commands.

For example, here where I work we've got an address we can send spam to,
and it gets all ripped apart and the appropriate people notified.  But
headers have to be on.  So I have to turn full headers on, forward the
message, then turn headers off, and delete it.  I made a menu item that
does all that for me in about a half second.  Very handy.

I've got it set so that I can send a message from a particular role.

Lots of people wouldn't want to use it, they prefer to type it all out,
but it cn be handy for things you do so rarely that you don't remember the
keystrokes.

Topher
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From: Claus Atzenbeck <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:24:50 +0100 (CET)

> Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user

GUI =
       G = GRAPHICAL
       U = User
       I = Interface

Meaning: Using mouse, drag & drop, several windows, and stuff...

Regards,
Claus.

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From: James <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:28:26 -0800 (PST)

> Meaning: Using mouse, drag & drop, several windows, and stuff...

For me, and I imagine for a great many Pine (& PC-Pine) users, not
having to futz around with a GUI is _the_ major attraction.

James

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From: Seth Kurtzberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:45:48 -0700 (MST)

There is no reason that it has to be one or the other.  Pine has the
current interface, which I also like.  It can also be wrapped with a GUI;
for an example, look at emacs and xemacs.  The core functionality is there
either way, and the interface is then a matter of personal preference.

Seth Kurtzberg
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