Subject: Connecting to IMAP servers

From: Joseph Scanlan <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT)

My Pine INBOX is on our GroupWise IMAP4 server.  Pine is
running on a Tru 64 Unix (aka Digital Unix) system.  When I
try to read a message that has attachments, Pine 3.95 fails
to display the message attachment.  It does, however display
an error for each line of the attachment at the bottom of my
screen.  Not the most convenient way to read an attachment. 
This started after an upgrade to GroupWise but I get the
same behavior from MailAndNews.com.  Curious. 

MailAndNews.com and our GroupWise IMAP server work well
enough with Netscape. 

Instead of fixing the problem on an old Pine, I decided to
build Pine 4.10 from a fresh tarball from UW.  Same problem
with my INBOX.  Different problem with MailAndNews.com.  I
can't authenticate. 

I do remember some discussion about IMAP problems with Pine
4.10 but didn't find the messages in the archives.  I FTPed
the imap-4.6.BETA tarball from UW but haven't had any success
with it.  I did a make without trouble.

First I tried a build clean, copied c-client.a into my Pine
tree, then did a build os4.  After doing this I can
authenticate but I get

	Problem detected: "Bad msgno 0 in mail_elt, nmsgs = 92".

when I try an index.

Next I did another build clean and tried replacing the imap
directory with a soft link to imap-4.6.BETA, then build os4. 
This gives me a compile time message of

	cc: Error: signals.c, line 620: In this statement, "SET_ALARMSAVE" is not declared.
	    mail_parameters(NULL, SET_ALARMSAVE, (void *) (seconds ? 1L : 0L));
	--------------------------^
	*** Exit 1
	Stop.

Any suggestions?  I really like Pine and don't want to use
the client that comes with GroupWise.

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From: Joseph Scanlan <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:13:56 -0700 (PDT)

Mark,

Thank you for your response.

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, you wrote (and I SNIPPED):

> I have received repeated reports, on a nearly-daily
> basis, that indicate that the GroupWise IMAP server is
> non-compliant with the IMAP specification.
> 
> The only thing that I can recommend is that you try to
> obtain an update of the GroupWise server from Novell
> that fixes these problems, and/or ask Novell to contact
> me about getting these problems fixed,

I submitted an incident to Novell Electronic Support.  

> and/or replace the GroupWise server with another server
> that is compliant with the IMAP specification.

Big change for us.  We have *way* to many people using
GroupWise for e-mail.  The Pine / Unix people are a small
minority.

> To address your other questions:
> 
> You can build Pine 4.10 with imap-4.6.BETA, although you
> will get the error message about SET_ALARMSAVE being
> undefined.  Just delete the offending line:
> from pine4.10/src/pine/signals.c (line 620).  That line
> is not needed any more.

Thanks.  That did it.

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