Subject: Viewing URLs from within Pine

From: "Srikanth V. Vallabhaneni" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:47:24 +0530 (IST)

Hi all,

I use Pine V4.10 for Solaris and I have a query on viewing URLs from
within Pine.

My Pine is configured for both Netscape and Lynx as url-viewers and
they both work fine. I would like to know if there is a way by which, I
can toggle between the choice of browsers with a hot-key rather than
manually editing the application, everytime I switch browsers. I find
it much faster to view text-based articles with Lynx than Netscape.

If there is no direct way of doing this in V4.10, I think it would
be a pretty nifty feature to have in later releases.

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Srikanth

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:18:15 -0700 (PDT)

Hello 

  I have a very general question, but I want to know under which
conditions pine does not create an interrupted message when the session is
broken. I was writing a message at home, which intended to be long and I
had to lift the phone (don't ask why, I had to do it). The communication
got broken in a few seconds, and when I came back there was no interrupted
message. Why not?

Eduardo
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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT)

What version of Pine are you using?  We were experiencing similar problems
at the UW with Pine 4.05 whenever the message got longer than about 3k
(there was no exact cutoff, though).  The problem was solved around the
time we upgraded to 4.10, but I'm not sure that the upgrade was what fixed
it.  Would someone from the Pine team care to enlighten us as to exactly
what the problem was and how it was fixed?

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT)

*** Scott Leibrand ([email-masked]) wrote on Jul 14, 1999:

:) What version of Pine are you using?  We were experiencing similar problems
:) at the UW with Pine 4.05 whenever the message got longer than about 3k

  From the headers in my message you can see I use pine4.10. I was lucky
my message was not too long at that time, so I did not loose much. But I
still do not understand why an interrupted message was not created.

Eduardo

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT)

> still do not understand why an interrupted message was not created.
 
Me neither.  That's why I asked the Pine team to explain.  :)

If I were you, I'd do some tests by composing nonsense messages,
disconnecting, and see under what conditions it saves an interrupted
message.

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:41:46 -0700 (PDT)

Hello 

  This is the situation. I open my folder index, press "Y" to print, I
choose message instead of index and then choose the printer. After this the
message should be printed, however, what actually happens is that the
message is opened, and then printed. Why is this bothersome?, because I
have setup a display-filter, which actually opens another program, and the
message is not printed until this program is closed. I would like that the
message not be opened in the screen when printed from the Index.

  Thanks, have a nice day.

Eduardo

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:22:49 -0700 (PDT)

> message not be opened in the screen when printed from the Index.

	Are you sure that it is doing this?  It doesn't seem to be
displaying the message on my system.  Now, maybe it is because of some
``setup'' thing, but I don't know...  I've just mannaged to make it fail
miserably, which causes the index to disapear, but the print results to
show up.  Hey, I really don't know that it's not doing what you say, and
MAYBE the existence of the display filter has something to do with it?  

							Jessica

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:44:26 -0700 (PDT)

*** Jessica Rasku ([email-masked]) wrote Today:

:) 
:) 	Are you sure that it is doing this?  It doesn't seem to be
:) displaying the message on my system.  Now, maybe it is because of some
:) ``setup'' thing, but I don't know...  I've just mannaged to make it fail
:) miserably, which causes the index to disapear, but the print results to
:) show up.  Hey, I really don't know that it's not doing what you say, and
:) MAYBE the existence of the display filter has something to do with it?  
:) 
:) 							Jessica
:) 

  Absoutely sure. I have "print-index" enabled, I am printing from the
index, and I have the option, after pressing "%" (or "Y"), of printing the
index or the message (the default is the message), and the problem is the
display-filter. This is activated by the printing command, even though I am
not opening the message (opening the message activates the display-filter,
which opens the other program, which actually does not print the message
unless I close the display program..UF!).

Eduardo

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:18:46 -0700 (PDT)

> unless I close the display program..UF!).

	Ah, I think I see your problem.  As I understand the purpose of
the display filter, it is not to operate as a program to display the
message itself, but as a way to do some processing to the message, before
it is displayed.  I could be totaly out to lunch here.  But when you open
a message ``normally'' do you not end up with a Pine window showing the
message?  And, does this happen when you print from the index?  

							Jessica

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:12:50 -0700 (PDT)

That sounds like what is going on, but it doesn't really solve his
problem.  Can you think of any way to disable the display filters when a
message is printed?  It would seem to me that it would require a change in
Pine's code, since Pine must determine how to display the message before
printing it...

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From: "Eduardo Chappa L." <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:36:23 -0700 (PDT)

*** Scott Leibrand ([email-masked]) wrote on Jul 16, 1999:

:) That sounds like what is going on, but it doesn't really solve his
:) problem.  Can you think of any way to disable the display filters when a
:) message is printed?  It would seem to me that it would require a change in
:) Pine's code, since Pine must determine how to display the message before
:) printing it...
:) 

  Yes, I understand this, but the filter only affects my reading on
display of it, I do not expect it to affect the printing of it. In my case
to explain to you, my filter is triggered by the tags <HTML> or <html> (ok,
same tag, but different for the filter), and it starts lynx. Upon exiting
lynx I can print the message that I already wanted to print. That's why I
was wondering about the filter. I do not think it should be started, unless
what the printer did, was to print the outcome of the filter, which is not,
as I can see (I print messages that are double space in the display, but
are not in the printer).

Eduardo