Subject: QP debuging problem?

From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:23:22 -0700 (PDT)

Both of these messages don't come through completely.  There is an
error about:

[Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding]

	just after where it breaks.  This happens in both Pine3.96, and
4.05.  Anyone have any ideas?  (it breaks imidiately after an at in both
cases, one the first occurance, another there are several occurances
before).  Anyways, any help would be appreciated...

							Jessica

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:24 -0700 (PDT)

Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get
the same error at the same place? I have another message that gave me the
same error, but Pine wouldn't even display part of that one.  I noticed
that the same message gave the same error whenever I tried to do anything
with it that required it to be displayed, even after I bounced it to my
other account.  Only bounce worked, because it doesn't require the message
to be displayed.

I'm going to inquire of the Pine team if they have any idea what's going
on.  If I included your messages as well (sent to me so they become my
messages), that might make it easier for them to figure out.

If you want, I can also send you a copy of my message.  The only similarity
I could find was that they were both created by a mail client that uses
HTML.

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:10:48 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> the same error at the same place? 

	If you save the attachment into one of your folder colections,
then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder...  

> I have another message that gave me the same error, but Pine wouldn't
> even display part of that one.  I noticed that the same message gave
> the same error whenever I tried to do anything with it that required
> it to be displayed, even after I bounced it to my other account.  
> Only bounce worked, because it doesn't require the message to be
> displayed.

	At least, it's good to know that it's not just my site that sees
this.  I have only seen it the once...

> messages), that might make it easier for them to figure out.

	I'll bounce them to me...

> I could find was that they were both created by a mail client that uses

	Sure, maybe I can see if there may be something that makes sence.
I did strip the headers down to the minimum on my message, but it had no
effect as to what it would display...

							Jessica

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:49:36 -0700 (PDT)

> then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder...  

	When I bounced the message back to myself through my geocities
address, (bounces back to this address), it came through reasonably well,
exect that ``=h'' became ``^?''. (quotes mine).  But, it looks like
Sendmail autoconverted the QP message, which I don't know why it did
that...  Or, more accurately, why it did it this time, but not last
time...

							Jessica

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:02 -0700 (PDT)

> that...  Or, more accurately, why it did it this time, but not last
 
All I know is that both the messages you forwarded (bounced) do me gave me
the QP encoding error as well.  So I'll see if anyone here at the UW can
figure it out...

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > exect that ``=h'' became ``^?''. (quotes mine).  But, it looks like

	Correction, it was ``="h'' that was converted to ``^?''

> the QP encoding error as well.  So I'll see if anyone here at the UW can

	The problem clearly is that in these messages there was a html tag
added by Listserv which looked like <A href="http://www.madnation.org">,
changing it to <A href=="http://www.madnation.org">, caused the error to
dissapear, and the message to be presented correctly.  The sugestion I
have, is that it either give a detailed error report, or present the
message unrendered (preferably at the choice of the user), as the error
that is causing this is something like 10 lines from where it presents the
error.  This is a fairly rare problem, and would probably require a fair
amount of work on the QP module to clean up to provide the options I am
sugesting, but looking at it, it could possibly be done...

							Jessica