Subject: learning 4.10

From: Carine Ullom <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:22:56 -0500 (CDT)

Hello,
We are preparing to upgrade from v. 3.96 to v. 4.10 on a UNIX system.  I
am trying to prepare some documentation on the new features available.  I
have read the release notes, the online help, the man pages, and have been
to the various Pine-info web sites and still have some questions.  I'd be
grateful to anyone who can clarify a few things for me:

1) As of 4.0 the release notes list "Basic rendering of message bodies in
HTML format" as an improvement.  I've tested various methods for combining
email and HTML and can't seem to get anything to work.  That is, I'm
expecting to see messages rendered in HTML, to the extent that is possible
in a text-based environment.

2) Remote address books: The help files state that a remote address book
on an IMAP server is of a different format than the usual local
.addressbook file.  Is there any way to convert one's existing
.addressbook file to the appropriate format so that it can indeed be used
from a different host? If not, I'm not sure of the utility of this feature
to seasoned Pine users with large address books, particularly if they
can't be used in conjunction with other clients, such as Outlook (which is
what I read in the release notes).

3) Global address books.  This is related to item #2.  Not sure when this
became available but again, I'm not sure of the utility of a global
address book.  If I define one, should it be on an IMAP server?  Seems
logical, yet how does it then differ from any remote address book that is
available from multiple hosts.  And if not available from multiple hosts,
what is global about it?

4)Hierarchical folders vs. folder collections.  I'm confused about the
difference between sub-folders created as a result of the ^X Create
Directory command at the "Folder name to add: " prompt in the FOLDER LIST
and those created from Setup/collectionList/Addcltn/Path:.  I realize that
the latter shows up in my COLLECTION LIST and that both show up in my
FOLDER LIST.  And for the life of me I can't save messages into either one
of them!  

If someone has documented these items on a web page somewhere, please show
me the way.  The release notes are just to cryptic and I haven't found an
FAQ current enough to address these items.

TIA,

Carine Ullom	
Software Training Specialist
Academic Computing Services
University of Kansas
Computer Center
Lawrence, KS  66045
PH: 785-864-0467
FX: 785-864-0485
e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: Scott Leibrand <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT)

Here's the UW's FAQ on item 2.  Please note that Dante (or Homer) is the
local machine running Pine, and deskmail is an alias to the IMAP server.

Title: How can Pine access a remote address book?

Question: I have been using Pine and have built up an address book which
is important to my correspondence.  Now I'd like to try PC-Pine, or may
need to run Pine on another computer.  Is there a way to access a single
address book when using Pine/PC-Pine on different computers? 

Answer:

Pine, beginning with version 4, can be configured to access a remote
address book over the network.  So, after some initial setup and
conversion of your address book contents, you can keep a single address
book which can be accessed by Pine on one or more Unix computers and by
PC-Pine running on one or more desktop computers. 

Below are the steps to take if you want to convert an existing Pine
address book that is on a Unix computer like Homer or Dante to make it
available remotely.  The steps also tell how to configure Pine to access
the remote address book.  You'll want to configure Pine on every system
you use the same way.  For most people, that will be only PC-Pine on one
computer and Pine on the Unix computer. 

The instructions also suggest that you change Pine's configuration to
ignore your old address book.  That is so that you will always be dealing
with a single instance of the data and won't accidently make updates to
the wrong file. 

Instructions
------------

First change the Pine configuration on the account where your address book
already exits: 

1.  Log in and run Pine
2.  In Pine choose "S"etup "A"ddressBooks at the main menu
3.  Choose "A"dd Pers Abook
4.  Fill in the form like this
        Server Name : UW_NetID.deskmail.washington.edu
        Folder Name : ADDRBOOK
        NickName    : Master Addressbook

    (where you replace "UW_NetID" with your own UW_NetID that you use to
     log in to the system.  You could also pick a different NickName 
     if you wish.)
5.  Choose "^X" eXit/Save
6.  Exit the Setup screen

That completes the configuration of Pine on your Unix account to recognize
two address books.  Now you need to copy the contents of your existing
address book to the new, remote address on the "deskmail" server.  Pine
will automatically make any needed changes to the format of the data. 

7.  Still running Pine, select "A"ddress Book at the main menu
8.  Choose ">" View your ".addressbook" Personal AddressBook
9.  Use ";" Select, then "A"ll to mark all the address book entries
10. Use "A"pply, then "S"ave
11. Choose "S"ave at the next prompt, you should see this

        Save to which addrbook : .addressbook
        ^G Help                 ^P Prev AddrBook
        ^C Cancel   Ret Accept  ^N Next AddrBook   

12.  Use ^N which will show that you are saving to "Master Addressbook"
     (or whatever you named your new address book.)
13.  Choose "Ret" Accept to copy all your address book entries to the
      new address book.

That completes the copying of your original address book to the new one
that can be accessed remotely.  Now, it would be wise to configure Pine to
forget about the old address book so you'll always be working with the new
one: 

14.  Still running Pine on your Unix account, choose "S"etup "A"ddress
     book again at the main menu
15.  Highlight the ".addressbook Personal AddressBook"
16.  Choose "D"el Abook
17.  Choose "C"onfig
18.  Choose "E"xit Setup

That completes address book conversion and the set up of Pine on the
system where your original address book existed.  The final step is to
configure Pine on any other system which you want to access this address
book. 

For most people, that means just configuring PC-Pine to access the remote
address book.  If you installed PC-Pine from the UW Internet Connectivity
Kit, part or all of that may be done, but you should check the PC-Pine
configuration: 

19.  Start PC-Pine and repeat steps 2, 3, and 4 above.

Note that there is not yet an Internet standard for address book formats
or remote access.  The methods described here will work for Pine only; not
other email client software. 

Date: 12/98  Author: Ingram/Skiver/Wall

Hope that helps,
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Scott Leibrand
Student Staff
Computing & Communications
[email-masked]