Subject: comp.mail.pine <--> [email-masked]

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:13 -0700 (PDT)

Would it be possible/feasible to set up some sort of a gateway between the
newsgroup comp.mail.pine and the mailing list [email-masked]
so that everything sent to one would also get sent to the other?

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From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:52:56 -0400 (EDT)

On 17 Apr 1999, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Would it be possible/feasible to set up some sort of a gateway
> between the newsgroup comp.mail.pine and the mailing list
> [email-masked] so that everything sent to one would
> also get sent to the other?

These groups used to be linked but a while ago they were unlinked and
and the purpose of pine-info was changed to focus on technical issues,
which unfortunately a lot of people don't understand. What I'd like to
see is:

1] pine-info is renamed to something that makes it clear that it's for
discussion of technical issues, maybe pine-admin.

2] We create a newsgroup for discussion of the technical aspects of
pine called comp.mail.pine.admin or comp.mail.pine.tech or whatever.
Is anyone interested in posting a RFD (request for discussion) about
this? Info about creating a new newsgroup is at:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/

3] The pine-admin and comp.mail.pine.admin (or whatever they are
called) are linked and archives are kept on an IMAP server. This is
already true of the pine-info archives, which can be accessed by
putting this setting in your pinerc folder-collections list: 

 "pine-info archives" {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pine-info/[],

4] All messages sent to comp.mail.pine are archived on an IMAP server
so we can use Pine to read and search the archives. Since the great
Mark Crispin is always talking about how cheap disk space is, this
seems like a reasonable thing for the UW to do...

Just some ideas,
Nancy

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:48:58 +0100

Greetings -

I would suggest a slight variation on Nancy's thoughts...

> discussion of technical issues, maybe pine-admin.

Since Pine-Info is embedded firmly in older versions of Pine (still in use
at various sites) and, presumably, is documentation around the place I
think it would be better to have:

1a]  Create a new list called Pine-Admin (or whatever), which is then used
     as outlined below.

1b]  Retain the existing Pine-Info list but give up on trying to discuss
     admin-related matters in a list with an "-Info" name!

     Instead we administrators move en masse to (the new) Pine-Admin, and
     keep Pine-Info for end-user questions (answered with politeness and
     helpfulness instead of flames! :-)  I suspect it will be easier for
     "us" to move rather than continue battling trying to refocus Pine-Info.

     We could then re-link this Pine-Info with comp.mail.pine and have it
     archived as Nancy suggests in [4] below.

>  "pine-info archives"
>  {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pine-info/[],
> 

Cheers,

Mike B-)

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