Subject: Pine Alternatives ???

From: Tony Rose <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:14:56 -0500 (EST)

We run Pine at our college and it gets its fair share of complaints and
then some. People want GUI and that is that. I have been searching for
some alternatives to satisfy these requests. POP3 is up and working and it
satisfies some people, but others want to be able to share calenders, and
some complain about the password not protecting their folders with POP3.

Is there a GUI program that will authenticate at the login that would
replace Pine? Or am I going to have to go to a MSExchange world to meet
these demands?

Any help/info is appreciated

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Tony Rose
Elon College Email Administrator

E: [email-masked]
V: (336)538-6815
F: (336)584-2447

Campus Box 2400
Elon College, NC 27244
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From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:45:54 +0000 (GMT)

Mulberry
Netscape 4.5
among others

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Tony Rose wrote:

:>
:>We run Pine at our college and it gets its fair share of complaints and
:>then some. People want GUI and that is that. I have been searching for
:>some alternatives to satisfy these requests. POP3 is up and working and it
:>satisfies some people, but others want to be able to share calenders, and
:>some complain about the password not protecting their folders with POP3.
:>
:>Is there a GUI program that will authenticate at the login that would
:>replace Pine? Or am I going to have to go to a MSExchange world to meet
:>these demands?
:>
:>Any help/info is appreciated
:>
:>________________________________
:>Tony Rose
:>Elon College Email Administrator
:>
:>E: [email-masked]
:>V: (336)538-6815
:>F: (336)584-2447
:>
:>Campus Box 2400
:>Elon College, NC 27244
:>________________________________
:>
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:42:29 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

Tony,
You need to refine your question a bit more.

If you are talking about native desktop mailers, there are lots of choices
for *mail* functionality, including NS Messenger, MS Outlook Express,
Cyrusoft Mulberry, and even PC-Pine (which may look a bit homely, but has
most all the GUI amenities).

If you are talking about a mailer for use on timesharing systems, there
are a few X-based mailers you could consider.

I would strongly recommend you stick with an IMAP solution rather than
focusing on POP, however.  (All of the mailers mentioned above support
both.)  See www.imap.org for a list of products.

Calendaring is a problem.  Lots of people like MS Outlook calendaring and
because Exchange appears to be a monolithic "take it all or leave it"
design, you are then forced to use Exchange for not only calendaring but
email.  (At least that's what we've been told by multiple MS folks.)
However, we have recently discovered that Outlook can export a free-busy
list that can form the basis of a server-less calendaring system.  (All
the f-b lists are "published" say via http and are accessible to each
client.) The latest Lotus Organizer also supports the same model.  This
model allows you to use whatever IMAP/POP server you prefer, and avoids
having to maintain a calendaring server (a class of beast which some have
found problematic.)

-teg

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From: Russell Van Tassell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:56:38 -0800 (PST)

On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Tony Rose wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:14:56 -0500 (EST)
> From: Tony Rose <[email-masked]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Pine Alternatives ???
> 
>    [...]
> 

Platform specification would be nice, but... *shrug*

Personally, I like Mutt and tend to use it at work... changeable key
bindings, color xterm support, message threading, filder hooks... quite
a bit of "what's best in other mailers."  Though it seems to miss good
multiple incoming folder support and roles (though I still feel some-
what "new" to it).    http://www.mutt.org/ 

Russell

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