Subject: Command level attachments

From: Scott Wenzel <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:22:13 -0600

Is there a way to use pine at the command level to include binary
attachments??
I have read most of the documentation and cannot find much support on this
subject.  Interested in creating a shell script to send attachments to users.

-Scott

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From: Daniel Sands <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:33:20 -0700

Have you looked at mpack?  This is much better-suited for your purpose than
Pine is.

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From: Steven Whatley <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:18:31 -0600 (CST)

> Have you looked at mpack?  This is much better-suited for your purpose than

Where does one find mpack?

Thanks,
Steven
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From: "Ed Greshko" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:27:47 +0800

> Where does one find mpack?

One place....

ftp.andrew.cmu.edu /pub/mpack

Ed

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From: Jessie Kleefstra <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:02:04 -0500 (EST)

I would like to ask the Pine Team if you know approximately when the next
release of Pine will be? Right now we're running Pine 4.10 (it's good) on
one of our office servers but we had to rebuild it with a beta imap to fix
the lock folders problem. I really don't want to let 16,000 staff students
and faculty run with beta stuff.

Another question: We are investigating filtering software (in
particular,to filter out SPAM). I have been looking at procmail and
software that runs with it. Would you have any suggestions on what might
be one of the easiest and safest filtering programs that will run with
Pine? I don't want students or faculty to start playing around and end up
loosing all of their mail.

We are running Sun machines with Solaris 2.6.

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From: Jessica Rasku <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:29:48 -0800 (PST)

> loosing all of their mail.

	You do not want to use procmail if you think it would cause
problems to have students or faculty deleting all their mail.  Of course,
there are front ends to the .procmailrc files that should prevent this
sort of thing (or at least make it more difficult to happen).  One thing
that you could do with procmail is to setup a global procmailrc that
creates a ``backup'' of the incoming mail.  I don't know how easy it would
be to setup.  My personal feeling is that if you provide the tools, and
explain the risks, then people who make a mess are responsible for the
problems they have created.  Just try to make sure that the problems that
they can create are as limited in scope as possible.  ANY filtering
software will probably allow you to delete all your mail...

							Jessica

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From: Russell Van Tassell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:55:04 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Jessie Kleefstra wrote:

> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:02:04 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jessie Kleefstra <[email-masked]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
> Subject: next release
> 
>   [...]
> 

One of the problems with personal mail filters is that one wrong step
means your filters become rather nazi... procmail is extremely powerful
and configureable but can easily remove you from having any email to
read.

You might just slap procmail in someplace where it can't be reached by
mere mortals (read: users) and then just use a global procmailrc file
(but that then puts you in the "hot seat" as "chief censor" and once you
do that you find yourself in a rather precarious legal position).

You might just "install the tools" and let people "use it at their own
risk."  (Or, if you, again, want to install a pretty good filter on-top
of procmail, check out "The Spam Bouncer" by Catherine A. Hampton at
http://www-new.hrweb.org/spambouncer/ -- you can install that globally
and allow users "a pretty good pre-configured filter" that they can
prety much configure to their needs)

You might also just want to head over to the procmail mailing list and
see if anyone has some good help over there for you.  You can get on it
through normal mailing list efforts:

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Hope that helps...

Russell

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