Subject: Request: Insert Msg as Attachment

From: Nancy McGough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:45:11 -0500 (EST)

When you're composing a message and type ^R, you get this prompt:

 File to insert from c:\Home directory:
 ^G Get Help ^T To Files TAB Complete
 ^C Cancel   ^W InsertMsg

Being able to insert a message using ^W is a great thing, but as far
as I can tell there isn't a way to easily insert a message as an
attachment of type RFC822/Message. My request is that you make this
possible and change this prompt to be something like this:

 File to insert from c:\Home directory:
 ^G Get Help ^T To Files  TAB Complete
 ^C Cancel   ^W InsertMsg ^A AttachMsg

I want to be able to do this is because I keep copies of all my
outgoing messages and I've got things set up so attachments aren't
saved in my archives. This way Pine would automatically save whatever
I write and not save the included message, which I've already got in
my archives. This feature would also be useful for receivers of the
attachment because then they could easily save just the attached msg
in the appropriate folder or whatever other things their mailer lets
them do with RFC822/Message attachments.

Thanks,
Nancy

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From: Dan Wing <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:41:11 -0800 (PST)

> them do with RFC822/Message attachments.

Save your archived mail with a certain filetype, such as ".msg",
and create an entry in your ~/.mime.types file (or whatever its
equivalent is on DOS) to associate files of that type:

  message/rfc822 msg

Seemed to work here, although pine's default "Content-Disposition:
attachment" causes the message to not automatically be listed inline with
Netscape V4.03 on WinNT.  

It would be nice if pine's mime.types could be extended to indicate a
preference for Content-Disposition of "inline" or "attachment" for
specific MIME types, but it isn't too critical.

-Dan Wing

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From: Dan Wing <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:55:07 -0800 (PST)

> specific MIME types, but it isn't too critical.

Hm, I noticed an odd bug with this.  For some reason my pine 4.10 on Unix
is marking the attachment with "Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64" but
isn't actually base64-encoding the attachment (the attached .msg file is
actually unencoded).

There must be some code in pine that does something special for
message/rfc822 (and doesn't mime-encode the attachment because it assumes 
any mime encoding would have already been done), but pine is doing that
_after_ it decides it is attaching a file and all file attachments
should contain "Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64".  Unfortunately I don't
have the time within the next few weeks to delve into this further.  I
could use such a feature myself, but have been Bouncing messages to
Netscape's mailer because it currently has better support for including
previous messages as message/rfc822 attachments.

-Dan Wing

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 23 Feb 1999 08:48:17 +0100

>> >  File to insert from c:\Home directory: ^G Get Help ^T To Files TAB
>> >  Complete ^C Cancel ^W InsertMsg ^A AttachMsg
>>
>> message/rfc822 msg
>
> Hm, I noticed an odd bug with this.

No, you didn't. Yet. Most Windows MUAs will not recognize this type of
attachment, either. Pterodactyl Gnus now supports this feature, and it
really doesn't work very well. To say the least. Plus you don't get a
chance to edit this attachment. The idea as such is probably neat, but I
don't think there's a realistic need for it and the technical
implementation seems to be more than just a little confusing.

Just my DM.02

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Robin S. Socha  <http://socha.net/>