Subject: PC PINE Problem !

From: Nayan Jain <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:31:33 +0530 (IST)

Hi all

I have tried installing PC-PINE but i am getting some error messages while
setting up. If anyone of you can help me with this then i will be very
thankful to him/er. Please dont crib about it here.

Thanks,

Earlier i used to logon to my mailserver and then i used to check my
emails. Now i want to set up my mails on PC.

Here are the configuration setting for PINE 3.96 on UNIX

personal-name            = Nayan Jain
user-domain              = <No Value Set: using "tatainfotech.com">
smtp-server              = <No Value Set: using "127.0.0.1">
inbox-path               = <No Value Set: using "inbox">
folder-collections       = <No Value Set: using "mail/[]">
default-fcc              = <No Value Set: using "sent-mail">
default-saved-msg-folder = <No Value Set: using "saved-messages">
postponed-folder         = <No Value Set: using "postponed-msgs">
signature-file           = <No Value Set: using ".signature">
global-address-book      = <No Value Set: using
"/usr/local/addr/.addressbook">
address-book             = <No Value Set: using ".addressbook">

and the server where we used to telnet and open our account was
aaa.bbb.cc.dd (this is an IP address actually)

Now when i try to install PC - PINE then it asked me for following
parameters and i put these details. these setting are for PC-PINE 4.05

personal-name            = Nayan Jain
user-id                  = nayan.jain
user-domain              = tatainfotech.com
smtp-server              = 127.0.0.1
inbox-path               = <No Value Set: using "inbox">
default-fcc              = <No Value Set: using "sentmail">
default-saved-msg-folder = <No Value Set: using "savemail">
postponed-folder         = <No Value Set: using "postpond">
signature-file           = <No Value Set: using "pine.sig">

I am getting error when i try to open my inbox / send mail
it says that cannot find host 127.0.0.1

Even if i put aaa.bbb.cc.dd it says the same thing.
what should i put here and how ?    

I will be very thankful to you if you can help me

Thanks
Nayan ...!

"Those of you who think you know everything are very
annoying to those of us who do."  

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:27:14 -0500 (EST)

> smtp-server              = <No Value Set: using "127.0.0.1">

Oh, and becuase it's thesame program it MUst be set up the same, right?
*sigh*
luser.

> user-domain              = tatainfotech.com

Replace the 127.0.0.1 with bgate.tatainfotech.com 
BTW, you've used your one stupid question. 
Don't ask any more.

> it says that cannot find host 127.0.0.1

Duh.
Imagine that.

-- 
Ken Woods
[email-masked]

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From: Yasholomew Yashinski <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:54:02 -0500 (EST)

> Oh, and becuase it's thesame program it MUst be set up the same, right?
 Calling names, I guess this is just to show your  hrm.. maturity?

Last I checked, this list was for people with pine problems,
not those with such low self-esteem they have to result in insults.
 
> Replace the 127.0.0.1 with bgate.tatainfotech.com 
OMG. You can actually be useful.

> BTW, you've used your one stupid question. 
If it is pine related, and I can help him, he can ask any he wants too.
I still haven't found your name under the admin list of this list.

> > it says that cannot find host 127.0.0.1
I guess because you have heard of loopback, everyone with a Unix account
should have as well.

> Ken Woods
 Maybe you should have stayed there.

Yash City

 In a World without Walls and Fences ...
 Who needs Windows and Gates ?!

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:43:50 -0500 (EST)

>  Calling names, I guess this is just to show your  hrm.. maturity?

Admit it, that's a luser way of thinking.
You do know what a luser is, don't you???

> not those with such low self-esteem they have to result in insults.

Looks to me like you didn't check.

> OMG. You can actually be useful.

LOL, only if the people listen.
Did you see that the guy did NOT do what I said??
And people wonder why I'm a BOFH.

> I still haven't found your name under the admin list of this list.

No, it's not.
Again, it's painfully obvious that you have not read what this list is
about either. The list is not for stupid problems like this guy is having.
This list is for TECHNICAL discussions.

> I guess because you have heard of loopback, everyone with a Unix account

Sure.

>  Maybe you should have stayed there.

You were talking about being mature???

-- 
Ken Woods
[email-masked]

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From: Stephanie Michelle Skinner <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 18:22:41 -0500 (EST)

OKAY! ALL OF YOU COMPUTER GENIOUS ASSHOLES NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF
US DONT KNOW WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS EXCEPT WHERE WE ARE TOLD TO ASK
QUESTIONS. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION SO, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM! GET OFF OF
YOUR BIG ASS POWER TRIP AND REALIZE THAT SOME OF US DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO
EXCEPT ASK FOR HELP. THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT BLESSED W/ COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE
ONLY KNOW TO ASK FOR HELP SO....SORRY IF WE DIDNT ASK FOR YOUR BLESSED
OPINION! TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PERSONALITY AND REALIZE THAT AT LEAST US
LITTLE ONES KNOW HOW TO TYPE AND US LITTLE ONES MUST LOOK FOR HELP WHERE
HELP IS LISTED. GO KISS YOUR OWN ASS AT 6:30 AT NIGHT AND HAVE A DATE WITH
YOUR COMPUTER CAUSE THATS ALL YOU GOT!!!!!!!
YEAH, SO  GLAD YOU KNOW YOUR COMPUTER! 
 "SMALL1DER" :)

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From: Ian Hall-Beyer <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:43:32 -0700 (MST)

OK. Now that I have given my rating, now for the dissection of this
"flame"

On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Stephanie Michelle Skinner wrote:

> QUESTIONS. 

-1 for spelling
-1 for profanity

> YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION SO, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM! GET OFF OF
> EXCEPT ASK FOR HELP. 

-1 for profanity

> THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT BLESSED W/ COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE
> HELP IS LISTED. 

no spelling or profanity issues here.

> GO KISS YOUR OWN ASS AT 6:30 AT NIGHT AND HAVE A DATE WITH

-1 for profanity
-3 for the really lame personal attack. Somehow this always seems to come
up when someone wants to try and flame a techie. You obviously don't know
us very well, do you?

Global points off:

-3 for shouting. (I'm being generous here)
-3 for not being able to construct a basic sentence without murdering the
language.

-Ian

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From: Michael Talbot-Wilson <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:47:56 +1030 (CST)

> OKAY! ALL OF YOU COMPUTER GENIOUS ASSHOLES NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF

Stephanie, your credentials for favouring the subscribers to this
list with your views are even slimmer than those of the person you
are responding to.  And those are exceedingly slim: he is just a
gate crasher in an unmoderated list. 

How much did you pay for Pine?  The only payment that has been, by
implication, asked of you was to read the mail you were sent by the
list server when subscribing to this list.  That payment you have
withheld. 

The correct response to questions outside the scope of the list is
no response: to ignore them.  The context-sensitive help is, after
all, extensive, and that in the main menu contains a pointer to a
FAQ and other files.  

Some people are just plumb kind-hearted and liable to befriend
strays, but they should reply by direct personal e-mail. 

Therefore, any responses that are in fact mailed to the list are
likely to come from the dregs.  A response that is abusive yet
answers the question fails all tests.  Deal with it.  Don't bring
yourself down to the level of the person who made the response.

--
Michael Talbot-Wilson ------------------- [email-masked]
"Many good morrows to my noble lord!" - Catesby greeting Hastings
(Richard III, Act III, Scene II).