Subject: I want a signature line

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:04:13 -0700 (MST)

Hi,
	Can you tell me how to include a permanent signature line with my pine
messages?  I'd appreciate the info.  I can't find it in the help text.
for now,
jvan

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:18:46 -0500 (EST)

> messages?  I'd appreciate the info.  I can't find it in the help text.

Did you even _try_ reading the FAQ???

http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/custom.html#xtocid561245

--
Ken Woods
kwoods<at>kens.com

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:09:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

ken, you need a serious attitued adjustment.  lighten up.  i think you
need a special someone in your life to take some stress off.  cause your
CPU just ain't doing the trick.

On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Ken Woods wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Ken Woods wrote:
> > 
> > > Dude, you need to shut the [BLEEP] up.  
> > > You don't have a [BLEEP] clue as to what you're talking about.
> > 
> > Ah, yes, I love the internet, where we can have adult discussions and
> > really adult responses. Uh huh. 
> > 
> > Two words:
> > 
> > GROW UP.
> 
> Five words:
> 
> Fuck off, nobody asked you.
> 
> --
> Ken Woods
> kwoods<at>kens.com

--
Aaron S. [email-masked]://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/
University of Vermont__802.656.7396__Millis 428

PC-Pine 4.05 E-Mailer_________________small,fast,simple,complex,free
______________________________________http://www.washington.edu/pine

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:16:49 -0500 (EST)

I just hate stupidity, and lazy people.

Please realize that there is a difference between being uneducated, and
being lazy and stupid.

If you have a question, read the FAQ.
If 100 people are telling you not to cc: them on messages, then don't.

Simple.

--
Ken Woods
kwoods<at>kens.com

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:28:31 +0100

> CPU just ain't doing the trick.

 Good morning, NT-luser,

 	o your quotes are totally broken
	o your spelling is so seriously broken that this is not a spelling
	  flame
	o you are so fscking clueless that you should spent a *lot* of time
	  reading the basic documents on email
	o your whining luser attitude is a serious annoyance

Here are the rules again:

	o this is a closed mailing list for technical problems
	o luser problems are to be dealt with in <news:comp.mail.pine>
	o new users are required to read the FAQ, the user guide and the
	  online help to earn to right to whine

And here are the first three commandments again:

	o thou shalt read thy fuckynge manual
	o thou shalt not whine
	o thou shalt not suck

Got it? Now get out of my life.

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
<http://www.kens.com/robin/>

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From: Shawn Jeffries <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:20:46 -0500 (EST)

>If 100 people are telling you not to cc: them on messages, then don't.

Ken,

Most people aren't used to the extremely good help resources that pine
affords in the Help menus or on the net in FAQ form. Most software is
generally unsupported to any reasonable degree.

It takes a lot less time to just answer an honest question with a simple
answer, than it does starting an argument by insulting them. If you are
seriously offended by people you percieve as either "stupid" or "lazy",
then I suggest you not answer their questions at all, and leave it for
someone else.

It only takes a small amount of effort to refer the user to those help
resources, and I am sure that many people would be happy to help.

-- 
    Shawn Jeffries
    [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:20:05 -0700 (MST)

Hi ken and all,
	Ken, your sarcasm is unecessary and offensive.  I didn't know there
was a FAQ--now thanks to a return message with the net address I've found it,
read it, and will create my signature line.  
	I've been reading the messages on this list for only two days but I
have noticed a lack of civility among the participants--I don't know if this
is all in fun because you all know each other, or this is the general tone of
the list--I hope not.   I'm sure I'll become more savvy as I become more
familiar with Pine.  Ken, remember Thumper's admonition?  

for now,
jvan

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:34:37 -0700 (MST)

Robin,
	thanks for forwarding the rules.  I didn't know them.  I was looking
around in Pine trying to solve my own problem. I appreciate the info. and
didn't know the nature of the list i was joining.  Now I do.
thanks,
for now,
jvan

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:57 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 [email-masked] wrote:
> 	Ken, your sarcasm is unecessary and offensive.  

According to you.
If you're offended, then unsubscribe.

> I didn't know there was a FAQ--now thanks to a return message with the
> net address I've found it, read it, and will create my signature line.

Good.
Don't ask any more questions that are in the FAQ.

> I've been reading the messages on this list for only two days but I

No you haven't.
You cc'ed me on your message.
Haven't you read the messages that are going back and forth about NOT
cc'ing people on responses to the list???

> have noticed a lack of civility among the participants--I don't know if
> this is all in fun because you all know each other, or this is the

LOL...
yeah.
That's it.
We all know and love each other.

> general tone of the list--I hope not.  I'm sure I'll become more savvy
> as I become more familiar with Pine.  

Get used to the "terse" tone.  It's here to stay.

> Ken, remember Thumper's admonition? 

eh.....No???

--
Ken Woods
kwoods<at>kens.com

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From: David Dyck <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:46:28 -0800

jvan,

  Ken and a few others are the minority on pine-info list

Back in July, Colin posted a suggestion to ignore them...

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:36:02 -0700
From: Colin J. Raven <[email-masked]>
To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach

If anyone has procmail set up, this is the perfect way to silently banish
Ken, his rantings, profanity, and generally offensive behavior...

          :0:
        *^From:[email-masked]
        /dev/null

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:41 -0500 (EST)

> If you're offended, then unsubscribe.

people shouldn't have to deal with it.  i don't think when they subscribed
for the mailing list they were aware dickhead ken was on.  the whole point
is to deal with pine.  not you

> cc'ing people on responses to the list???

the guy asked how to make a signature line, you tink he knows what Cc'ing
is?

> We all know and love each other.

i love you ken

Aaron S. [email-masked]://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley
University of Vermont__802.656.7396__Millis 428

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From: Ken Woods <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:04:22 -0500 (EST)

> is to deal with pine.  not you

I think everybody needs to check the archives.
While my answers may be short and consise, they are correct, and with a
bit of thought, one can deduce the solution.  If you can't deal with my
email, then set me up in your filter.  Makes no difference to me.

> the guy asked how to make a signature line, you tink he knows what Cc'ing

That's not my problem.  He says he's been reading the list. 
It's obvious that he was not.

> > LOL... yeah. That's it.

I love you too, Aaron.

--
Ken Woods
kwoods<at>kens.com

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:14:00 -0500 (EST)

> email, then set me up in your filter.  Makes no difference to me.

but if we were to set up a filter, how are we supposed to get messages
where you do have those great answers, or you ask us a question (of course
ken would never do that>

> It's obvious that he was not.

maybe he did read the list but has no clue what Ccing.  unless he read the
message where some one typed out the exact commands necessary to not Cc
(up arrow up arrow, ^K, etc.> 

> > > We all know and love each other.

i love you infinity (sp?)

a

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:34 +0100

> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Ken Woods wrote:

Good boy, you've learnt how to quote properly.

(...)
> > If you can't deal with my email, then set me up in your filter.  Makes no
> > difference to me.
> 

Use Gnus or procmail's weighted scoring. Now, just where did I read that trick
before?

(the OP not reading the thread about Cc:'s)
> (up arrow up arrow, ^K, etc.> 

My, my, are we superimposing our own braindeadness unto other people again,
Aaron? Pine *is* self-explanatory on this point if you care to read the online
help. If you choose not to, you're in the wrong place. Speaking of which: how
come you're still here although you've been told a couple of times that this
list is for the discussion of technical problems among admins?
 
(disgusting display of bestiality snipped)
> i love you infinity (sp?)

You're making me sick, Aaron. And that "(sp?)" part should really go into the
from line. Now go somewhere else, please.

Robin

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From: Ian Hall-Beyer <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:46:48 -0700 (MST)

>   Ken and a few others are the minority on pine-info list

Indeed. I've been lurking here since shortly after 4.0 came out, and have
been generally happy with the list. There are indeed some exceptions to
that rule, and it seems you may have stepped in the thick of a flamewar.

Here's your asbestos suit.

-Ian