Subject: Re: Spell Check, then lose email?

From: "Jonathan E. D. Richmond" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:35:59 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

The problem with PINE is that it gets released with too many bugs in it.
The file extension problem I mentioned earlier (MTX does not register
correctly, resulting in .MTXs being added to all files) is another
example. Instead of issuing a new version every other week, it might make
sense for the PINE people to take an extra month or so to thoroughly test
their new versions and try to eliminate as many bugs as possible!

On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris Wood wrote:

> Chris Wood <[email-masked]>
> 10/08/98 03:41 PM GMT
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> I just upgraded our system from 4.02a to 4.05.  We have ispell installed
> also.  With 4.05, if a user runs the spell checker (ctrl-t), when they
> come back from ispell, they cannot down arrow.  If they up arrow it takes
> them to the subject, then if they down arrow it deletes the entire
> email!!!  It's gone, can't uncut it.
> 
> 4.02a didn't have this problem.  Anyone else out there running into this?
> Any tips on trying to figure out what it is?
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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:18:22 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Even better would be if we didn't release it at all, since many of these
bugs don't occur in the environment we use (and test in)...

-teg

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From: Shawn Jeffries <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:46:41 -0400 (EDT)

Terry,

Please don't say things like that!  You're scaring me.

    Shawn Jeffries
    [email-masked]
    "Proud user of Pine since 3.89"

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From: Chris Wood <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:03:46 -0600 (MDT)

:) I fully understand what the Pine Development team faces and actually am
glad Pine supports DG/UX.  What's the best way to find out what is causing
this problem?  Is there an official bug-report method?  Also, would there
be a contact person for the dg/ux port of Pine to see if my situation is
unique or common across dg/ux?  

My System: Data General Aviion 5900 (Intel)
           DG/UX 4.2mu02

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From: "Ed Greshko" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:33:49 +0800

> bugs don't occur in the environment we use (and test in)...

You forgot the :-) face at the end, right?  Got some bad drugs, right?

As is said to Ann Landers many a times....

You blew this one Terry.  The proper answer would be,

Dear Jonathan,

Pine is tested by our development team and a group of beta testers.  We will
consider asking you to be one of our beta testers.  However, we have to warn
you that it takes time and dedication.  You will be asked to perform testing
on a tight schedule and to provide detailed and accurate bug reports.

Thanks...

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From: "Aaron S. Hawley" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:10:01 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

more like, they never fixed the problem in the first place.  when they
went from 3.xx to 4.xx, that is when you start getting lots of bugs.  the
releases they make every week (like 4.01 through 4.05), don't have many
bugs from version to version, chris wood's example is a rare example

Aaron S. Hawley
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