Subject: Bad date format on PC PINE

From: Elad Eyal <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:42:36 +0200 (��� ���� �����)

Good morning,

	I've just installed PC PINE on my home PC. Being able to use the
same addressbook and message folders across platforms is a dream coming
true. BUT, it seems Pine gets upset with me using Windows 95 Hebrew
version and the date format looks like This:

Date: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Sun=2C_20_Sep_1998_01=3A38=3A31_+0200_=28=E6=EE?=
 =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?=EF_=FA=F7=F0=E9_=E9=F9=F8=E0=EC=29?=

It's probably the date in Hebrew -- Very, very useful. Is there a way to
force PCPine to be a little more creative at the date format?

	And while at the subject, are there any neat configuration tricks to do
with Pine's almost-GUI? Especially getting that green treeish thing out of
my System Tray?

Thanks,
-Elad
http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~elad

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From: "Ed Greshko" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:04:37 +0800

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked]
> [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Elad Eyal
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 1601 8:00 AM
> To: Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject: Bad date format on PC PINE
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> Good morning,

It seems to be early in the morning....quite some time ago.  :-)

And it also seems that at least one mailer is somewhat dealing with the
format being discussed.

> force PCPine to be a little more creative at the date format?

Well, the standards state that the characters in the header must be 7bit
ASCII.  Anything which is not must be MIME encoded.  That is what pine has
done.  It may be tricky for pine to do anything creative with a format that
is probably unknown to it.

I am curious to know how Netscape, Eudora or any other PC mailer handles
this situation.  Have you tried these?  Do they manage to put things in
"normal" format?

Regards,
Ed

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From: Elad Eyal <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:31 +0200 (??? ???? ?????)

Good morning,

> It seems to be early in the morning....quite some time ago.  :-)

Oh yes, the art of defaults. 1601? Isn't that the Y1.6K bug..?

> >  =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?=EF_=FA=F7=F0=E9_=E9=F9=F8=E0=EC=29?=

I have to redraw the question with great shame. I found the Windows
control panel that forces the date into English. (Didn't like the idea of
Hebrew date anyway. And by sheer coincidenec, the same date problem also
makes it impossible to install DirectX on Windows95 Hebrew edition. Thank
You MicroSoft). 

The timezone is still problemaatic. I found this could be fixed with SET
TZ=ISR+2 or something like that. But I think I'll let it by.

> this situation.  Have you tried these?  Do they manage to put things in

Yes, I think they do it fine.

Thanks anyway,

 _
(_  /  _    /           ( E-mail pigeons nest in binary trees )
(__/__(/\_(/         http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~elad

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From: Lars Scheffmann <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:21:11 +0200 (DDT)

On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Elad Eyal wrote:

EE >The timezone is still problemaatic. I found this could be fixed with SET
EE >TZ=ISR+2 or something like that. But I think I'll let it by.

Setting the correct timezone and offset is a bit cryptic.

My autoexec.bat includes           SET TZ=DST-1DDT

where DST stands for Danish Standard Time
      DDT        for Danish Daylightsaving Time
and -1 shows that Denmark is 1 hour east/ahead of GMT or UTC.

In W95 under "Controlpanel", "Date and Time" I set the Timezone to:
      (GMT +01:00) Copenhagen .......

And you will find this header in my E-mail:

              Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:17:44 +0200 (DDT)
              (time not exact)

where +0200 means that the time stated is GMT + 2 hour, which is correct.

When W95 aut. switch back to wintertime (standardtime) my time changes to
              +0100 (DST)

I hope this can help you.

Regards

Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: [email-masked]
Dept. of Academic Information Technology  Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366

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From: Michael Ruder <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:05:11 -0600 (MDT)

Hi,

<> My autoexec.bat includes           SET TZ=DST-1DDT

This did help, setting TZ=MST7MDT results now in the correct time zone
"-0600 (MDT)". Before that I only had the Control Panel setting

(GMT -07:00) Mountain Time (US & Canada)

and got a "-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time)" in my mail header, which is
also correct but not the correct abbreviation...

       -Michael

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