Subject: Re: cut and paste...

From: Mike Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:54:47 -0500 (CDT)

This may not be quite the right forum for this, but it is essentially a
question about pine and I don't know who else to ask.  I have the same
problems as the earlier writers.  I've found that I can cut and paste from
xterm to another window (Solaris 2.6 OpenWindows) only if capslock is on.  
Now, how does it really work?  There has to be something I don't know
about.  Also, turning on capslock (or using shift) turns off cursor
movement in pine.  There has to be a better way!

Michael Cope suggested use of dtterm.  That works if you only want to cut
and paste, but I couldn't figure out how to get cursor movement in pine
under dtterm.

I hope someone knows the answers to these questions because a lot of us
seem to be wondering!

Mike

Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E.
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On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Michael Thomas Cope <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> > I am not able to cut and paste when i am with in pine
> > Any suggestions on how I can make it possible.
> Have you selected enable-mouse-in-xterm
> 
> I have had same problem in xterm on Solaris 2.6 with Pine 4 including
> 4.05 but not 3.96.  If enable-mouse-in-xterm is selected and I am using
> /usr/openwin/bin/xterm I am able to  move the cursor with the mouse but I
> am not able to select or insert text with the mouse.  
> 
> I am able to use the mouse properly in dtterm /usr/dt/bin/dtterm and 
> with Pine 3.96

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From: "Ed Greshko" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:39:49 +0800

Mike,

> I hope someone knows the answers to these questions because a lot of us

This comes under the head of "you can't have it both ways".

Esentially you have a situation where you need to use the same keys (mouse
keys) to interact in different ways with different levels of SW.  In one
case you need to translate the mouse keys to actions by the window
management SW (xterm) in the second case the mouse key information needs to
be passed to the application (pine).  How to indicate which software gets
the key information?  The solution, in this case, was to send the key data
along with the "shift" status indication.  i.e. Shift-on or Shift-off.

Hope this helps.

Ed