Subject: Help

From: Sanjay Ruparelia <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:16:47 +0530 (IST)

Dear Friends,

I have a small problem.  I cannot save any messages--sent or
received--because the system says my disc space is full.  Yet I half
junked many messages and it is still too large.

Is there any way to see how much space there is on my disc?  I cannot seem
to find the function to find out.  And the message saying that it is full
just flashes across my screen so I do not know what to do.

Any ideas/solutions would be appreciated.

Yours,
Sanjay

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From: Steve Ekwall <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 05:32:58 -0600 (MDT)

Hi Sanjay,

   You didn't say if local or remote 'disc space' is full.  I'll assume
REMOTE, as you're in pine and reading messages (such as this), but, local
is still not out of the question. REMOTE or your ISP may delegate X amount
of free space for your USERID! That's your homepage, previously saved
files, or scripts your putting on the REMOTE. ERASE ~old~ files on the
remote and see if that helps. Try "ls -al | more" if your ISP is a UNIX
type server (if you can get to the command line), or delete REMOTE files
via your FTP, browser, lynx, or whatever software you run. 
   Your messages _ARE NOT_ in your file area until when read them.. they
are on the REMOTE system in a /usr/mail/ area. If your 2,4,6,8,10+
meg USERID area is "FULL", they (more messages) will not be saved. 
    Actually that brings up another point for saving, bring all those good
files home to your back-up disks (before your clear up your remote area),
and if you need it - it will be saved! :) 
  And In case I'm missing this altogether, and the system is yours, try
"free" for total disk space available on the system.

Hope that helps you..
reply off list if you need more detailed help
[email-masked]
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steve (clean,clean,clean disks:) ekwall
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Sanjay Ruparelia wrote:

Dear Friends,

Yours,
Sanjay

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From: "Ed Greshko" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:01:49 +0800

> junked many messages and it is still too large.

Your "inbox" is normally on a separate file system than your folders.  So,
it is easy to understand how you can receive mail but cannot save.  If you
have only deleted mails in your inbox then it will not help your "save" and
"sent-mail" area.

> just flashes across my screen so I do not know what to do.

You are a user of VSNL's services.  I assume you have a shell account.  When
you are out of pine type the command "quota" and it will display information
about your disk limits and usage.

I'm guessing that you will need to delete some old mails in your folders.

BTW, you should ask VSNL to upgrade their systems to pine4.02.  You are
currently running on a very old pine3.93!!!

Regards,
Ed

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From: Dougal Campbell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:12:33 -0500 (CDT)

Since upgrading from 3.9x to 4.02, some users find that their messages
are being moved from their normaal INBOX (/var/mail/$USER) to
$USER/mbox. It doesn't happen to all users. I didn't spot anything
obvious in the .pinerc files. Can anyone give me an idea why this
happens to some users and not others? Our preference is the old
behavior (using /var/mail/$USER).

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From: "Ajaz M. Siraj" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:26:20 -0600 (MDT)

Hi,

I am running PINE 3.96 on Sun Station. Everytime I try to pipe messages to
a mail processing program the PINE reports the following errors:

   stty: : No such device or address
   stty: : No such device or address
   stty: : No such device or address
   stty: : No such device or address

Does anybody have a clue as to how I may go about finding the source of
this problem. 

Regards
~ajaz

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From: Edan Idzerda <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:44:44 -0400 (EDT)

>    stty: : No such device or address

Try your .cshrc or equivalent.  If Pine starts up pipe commands using
your shell, you will not want to have any commands like 'stty' or 'tset'
in your .cshrc.  They don't belong there anyway.  :)

An easy test is

if ($?prompt)

since [t]csh won't define an initial prompt if you are attached to a 
tty.

- edan