Subject: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message

From: Jordy Simpson <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings!

I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this
problem yet.  Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my
solution out to y'all.

To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing
up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look
at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it):

source file:  pine4.02/pine/init.c 

Original Version:
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/*
 * Turn on quelling of pseudo message.
 */
if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global))
mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1);

Fixed Version:
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/*
 * Turn on quelling of pseudo message.
 */
#if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global))
mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1);

Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance?  :-)

I've been sending and receiving mail with Pine 4.02 and this fix for
several hours without any more of those messages.  I've even accessed my
spool with version 3.96 again, then back to 4.02, with no problems.  I've
tried sending and receiving mail with Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express,
Pine, Fetchmail, and <shudder> Netscape Mail, and they all work fine, with
no more internal data messages.

If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great!  But until then,
this should suffice.

-Jordy

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:56:28 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Jordy,
One of us is definitely missing something...

> If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great!  But until then,

Might not the "official" way to do it be just setting the 
   quell-folder-internal-msg
feature via the config screen??  Or are you saying that doesn't work for
you?

You *did* read the release notes for 4.01 or 4.02 before trying to modify
it, right?

-teg

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From: James Woodward <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:50:41 +1000 (EST)

> If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great!  But until then,

I turned that option off by selecting 'quell-folder-internal-msg'
from the setup/config menu off the main menu...
this fixed the problem without hacking and rebuilding the source of 4.02.

well, at least it did for me.

Regards, Jim.
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From: Steve Ekwall <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:37:27 -0600 (MDT)

On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, James Woodward wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote:
(sorry no -snip's-  it's all important :)

Regards, Jim.
Good job Gentleman!!

Strange, the (version last/next):[email-masked] never
mentioned this as either Added since 3.96v or what it did or didn't DO if
invoked..But, WE all "Saw" The Problem 8^)
No ONE had an answer, EVEYONE was concerned and I think _not_ Pleased!
  IMO, Someone mention recently on the list that 'we' can't convert or
keep up with the NEW versions fast enough... ANOTHER someone here
mentioned on the list that bugs were just found in a way earlier version..
no biggies, but THERE all the  same ! (sigh) :{
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My thought (suggestion:) is to extend RFC-Pine(next) All "brilliant"
additions for a
minimual amount of time, beta test, (say at least 1-3 month minimually,
FSSTND is rolling in their ascii/grave that it is that short of a
suggested TIME.) Patches (sigh) should be released to VERSIONS, and NOT
ever to
be considered a NEW VERSION to cover ones tracks/oops. We don't bury
our dead with faulty coding and a higher v# like Big BIll!  The popularity
and STRENGTH of pine is (hopefully we'll never have to say WAS), *IS* Its
transportabilty between more platforms than any other, its ability to be
a solid and trusted Editor by SO's, Admin's and 'secretaries' and
(hey:) normal users around the world.. etc..etc.etc.

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  Some functions while fun/silly should be voted on and and not included
by concensus of USERS of Pine. (period).. (example, graphics are fun (i
have a tv,) and html is quick,click,go (i have a computer:)) BUT unless it
works ------- I'll rest my case.

Again, congratulations! Jim & Jordy (red/HATS OFF TO YOU BOTH!)
Fixes should be from within, not from well.. H*ck, you know :)

-=se=-
steve ( i like 'em when they work :) ekwall

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From: Stucki <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:48:02 +0200

Does the fix of Pine4.02 plus 'quelling' the annoying Message
also stop IMAP from generating the same thing?
Or is this message ONLY generated by pine (but via imap) ?

I have users, who access Mail by pine 'here' and by something else
'from home' getting all those biffer/shell/mailtool mismatches
as mentioned in this thread before.

Stucki

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From: Jordy Simpson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:51:26 -0700 (PDT)

I did read the release notes, and adding the quell-folder-internal-msg did
not fix the problem for me.  That's why I recompiled.  Otherwise, why
would I bother? :-)

-Jordy

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:04:07 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> not fix the problem for me.  That's why I recompiled.  Otherwise, why

That's what the rest of us were wondering!

-teg

p.s. If you can reproduce the failure of the "official" feature, please
provide more details on your environment, as it seems to work for
"everyone else"... :)