Subject: PCPine and hanging IMAP connection

From: Jessica Perry Hekman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:05:22 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

I have a request for the developers out there: I've observed that when
PCPine (3.96) tries to connect to its IMAP server and gets a slow
connection, it ties up my entire machine (Windows 95, and unfortunately
upgrading to NT may not be an option). In other words, I can't use other
applications while waiting for that server response. I'm assuming, of
course, that I'm not missing some configuration option :)

Is there any chance of getting this fixed in a future release?

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:51:49 -0500 (CDT)

>From: Jessica Perry Hekman <[email-masked]>
>Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:05:22 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

>I have a request for the developers out there: I've observed that when PCPine
>(3.96) tries to connect to its IMAP server and gets a slow connection, it ties
>up my entire machine (Windows 95, and unfortunately upgrading to NT may not be
>an option).

The behavior of attempting to connect to a slow server is the same on NT or Unix
Pine, for that matter. I agree that it's annoying not to be able to run such a
process in background.

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From: Edan Idzerda <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:15:50 -0400 (EDT)

> Pine, for that matter. I agree that it's annoying not to be able to run such a

It hangs your entire Unix machine?  That is what the original author wrote about
a Win95 box, and I highly doubt that Unix Pine connecting to a IMAP server 
hangs the entire machine.  It certainly will hang your Pine session, of course.

I did grow tired of waiting for Pine's "status updating" to complete--pine
would suddenly freeze in the middle of reading a message, and usually when 
I wanted to go to the next page :)  But I moved my mailbox to a different server
and shrunk it down... now the wait is shorter so I don't care.  

I wonder if there is a way to make that update asynchronous--it seems
like a fair trade off to make the inbox "(READONLY)" while the update is 
occurring, but I suppose you would either need to make Pine multithreaded,
and have that mess of different platforms, or fork another Pine process and
use shared memory... and have that mess of different platforms.

So it doesn't surprise me that it hasn't been done yet :)

- edan

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Edan Idzerda	<[email-masked]>
System Administrator --  Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA
It seemed like a good idea, at the time.

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From: Jessica Perry Hekman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:34:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

> use shared memory... and have that mess of different platforms.

I'd definitely settle for being able to use other applications while
PCpine works. Unix users should already be able to do this by hopping to
another window. (Notice I'm assuming everyone uses X. This is probably a
faulty assumption, but there you go :)

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