Subject: pinerc files

From: Dennis Gurgul <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:39:03 -0400 (EDT)

Does anyone know what's causing this user to have so many pinerc files in
their directory?  Running 3.95 on Digital Unix 4.0b.  Thanks: 

-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 13:02 pinerc000179
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 16:14 pinerc000487
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  6 11:10 pinerc000553
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 13:11 pinerc001038
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 11:21 pinerc001192
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 16:00 pinerc002001
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 13:24 pinerc002051
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 11:33 pinerc002238
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  1 11:13 pinerc002797
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 16:14 pinerc003670
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 14:10 pinerc003750
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  4 13:50 pinerc004019
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 16:27 pinerc004356
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 13:50 pinerc004598
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 15:30 pinerc004715
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 16:32 pinerc004971
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 13:58 pinerc005314
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  1 11:36 pinerc005752
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  4 13:58 pinerc006233
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  4 09:56 pinerc007570
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 14:51 pinerc008953
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  1 14:37 pinerc008966
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  5 16:40 pinerc009282
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 14:11 pinerc009606
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 27 13:45 pinerc009777
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 28 15:15 pinerc010106
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 09:35 pinerc010234
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 27 16:52 pinerc011079
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 10:51 pinerc011124
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 09:49 pinerc011618
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 09:55 pinerc012321
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 09:57 pinerc012664
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 29 10:19 pinerc012823
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 May 28 14:55 pinerc012869
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 14:28 pinerc012910
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 10:07 pinerc013686
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 16:16 pinerc014780
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 07:59 pinerc015398
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 10:26 pinerc015550
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 14:03 pinerc015723
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 10:55 pinerc016441
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 16:30 pinerc017616
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 09:33 pinerc018859
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  5 14:58 pinerc018973
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun 10 09:26 pinerc022879
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 14:58 pinerc023031
-rw-------   1 ma       users       8192 May 27 16:00 pinerc023401
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 15:04 pinerc024933
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  9 11:50 pinerc025331
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 09:59 pinerc026271
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  3 10:24 pinerc026765
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun 10 10:53 pinerc028158
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  2 15:10 pinerc029845
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 10:47 pinerc029858
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun 10 10:50 pinerc030819
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun 10 10:54 pinerc031145
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun  8 10:14 pinerc031266
-rw-------   1 ma       users          0 Jun 10 11:02 pinerc032586

Dennis J. Gurgul
Helix System Management
617.724.3169

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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+Lists/Unix/[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 13:41:34 -0400

Author:        Dennis Gurgul <[email-masked]>
	Original-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:39:03 -0400 (EDT)
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> their directory?  Running 3.95 on Digital Unix 4.0b.  Thanks:

Could they be at or over their quota?

TjL

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From: Florian Kolbe <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:53:49 +0200 (CEST)

> Could they be at or over their quota?

Or even worse, file system full :)

Florian

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From: Dennis Gurgul <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:59:22 -0400 (EDT)

They were over quota.  Actually, that's how we discovered it.  The user
contacted us about a quota problem.  So then this happens when someone
goes over quota?  Thanks much for the tip.  Dennis. 

Dennis J. Gurgul
Helix System Management
617.724.3169

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From: Lea <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:58:15 -0600 (MDT)

> goes over quota?  Thanks much for the tip.  Dennis. 

I don't know if that's true.  I just overloaded one of my accounts and
tried to do a few things with Pine.  Generated a bunch of quota-related 
error messages but not one .pinerc123456789 file.

Lea

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From: "M/S. SRI LAKSHMI FIBRES" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 08:32:49 +0530 (IST)

Pl. explain how to *scroll* pine message instead of using space bar
to move page after page to capture the text directly to my computor?
K.V.Sivaraman/coimbatore/India

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From: Raja BrewHaHa <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:36:12 -0600 (MDT)

> K.V.Sivaraman/coimbatore/India

...that's two questions I think. I'm not sure about the first one.

As far as printing, a "Y" print command is, possibly requiring the
"aggregate command set" to be enabled.

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:15:35 +0100

> goes over quota?  Thanks much for the tip.  Dennis.

I believe this is what should NORMALLY happen (if there is plenty of space):

1.  Pine tries to write new version of the preferences file.

2.  Pine checks that all the bytes were successfully written out.

3.  Pine renames the new version of the file over the old.

This sequence prevents you losing or truncating your live settings file if
you run out of space during the write operation (which is what would happen
if the live preference file's content were simply written over).

Of course if, at step 2, Pine discoverd it couldn't write out all the bytes
it has to decide what to do with what it HAS managed to write out.  Should
it delete the (incomplete) file?  Or should it leave it in situ so that the
user can try and rescue any settings they had altered from out of it?

Pine seems to adopt the latter approach.

Whilst sensible in general, it might be an idea if Pine 4.00 could stat()
the incomplete file and, if it is 0 bytes, delete it?  At least this would
stop the proliferation of empty "new" files!

Cheers,

Mike Brudenell
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