Subject: About the Pine-Info mailing list

From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT)

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 23 Apr 1998 20:21:08 +0200

> owner-pine-info  <[email-masked]> writes:

Cool, Mr Kramer is now part of the Pine Collective. Stefan of
Pine... }:->

> Posting to the list requires subscription to the list.  

Ummm, we're all on it, aren't we? Was that some kind of test posting
for the people that are now subscribing?

> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/

I'd put those in <> to make them browsable.

I just put another lynx-from-within pine script up on the tips
page. Anyone got a random-sig script and a well set up mailcap?

I just had this other weird idea, dunno if it's any good - how about
an htmlized .pinerc with links to the respective help files. Should be
a cakewalk but I'm not sure anyone sees any real need for that...

Later,
Robin

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Robin S. Socha                <http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/>
Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly.
It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with.

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:43:30 -0500 (CDT)

>From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
>Date: 23 Apr 1998 20:21:08 +0200

>Cool, Mr Kramer is now part of the Pine Collective. Stefan of Pine... }:->

Missed it. Thanks Stefan for making the owner-pine-info alias point to you!

Hm, with the information straddling more than one line, it makes it difficult
for me to reply to the list. Typically, I "reply to all", cut the To, cut the
Cc (pine-info, in this case), move cursor to To, and uncut so that pine-info's
on the To.

I can't do that anymore.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

AHK} ....
AHK} Thanks Stefan for making the owner-pine-info alias point to you!

This will be subject to change, of course, such as when I'm on vacations or
whatever, when it will point to a colleague.  

AHK} Hm, with the information straddling more than one line, it makes
AHK} it difficult for me to reply to the list. Typically, I "reply to
AHK} all", cut the To, cut the Cc (pine-info, in this case), move
AHK} cursor to To, and uncut so that pine-info's on the To.
AHK} 
AHK} I can't do that anymore.

I see what you mean -- and I see no way of keeping it to one line with the
URL included.  This was intended to be helpful to guide people lost for
information on how to unsubscribe etc. to the right place, since ListProc
doesn't (yet?) provide for appending that to postings, but it sounds like
it creates more problems than it solves.  Opinions from other list members?

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:13:27 -0700 (PDT)

It was a short-lived experiment: This mailing list's To: header now no
longer bears the URL for the Web page about the list.  When we upgrade to
ListProc 8.2, it will be (according to the release notes for that version,
anyway ;-) possible to append a footer to each posting that will then
contain information about how to unsubscribe, the URL, ...

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From: David Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:37:42 -0700 (PDT)

> I'd put those in <> to make them browsable.

Pine 4 doesn't need the <> to find the hyperlink and I think it just
clutters up the text.  If Netscrape or Internet Exploder needs the <>,
I would say that's reason enough not to put them in ;-) 

> Anyone got a random-sig script and a well set up mailcap?

I do, but I still want to clean it up a bit before posting it again.
Search the archives if you really want it...

> a cakewalk but I'm not sure anyone sees any real need for that...

I started looking into doing that before I left the Pine Team, but
never got very far with it.  Once they get the help text converted to
HTML it'll be alot easier.

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