Subject: Where to send unsubscribe message

From: Eleanor Gilpatrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:06:01 -0400 (EDT)

I wonder if anyone knows how to unsubscribe to pine-info.
I am used to having that listed at the end of messages, and all my 
attempts have failed.  I seem not to know to whom my request should be 
addressed.

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:29:59 -0500 (CDT)

Aargh! Why the hell isn't administrivia turned on? All messages like this
should be bounced to the list owner. Typically, administrivia looks for words
that look like commands in the Subject and first 10 lines of the body.

>From: Eleanor Gilpatrick <[email-masked]>
>Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:06:01 -0400 (EDT)

>I wonder if anyone knows how to unsubscribe to pine-info. I am used to having
>that listed at the end of messages, and all my attempts have failed. I seem
>not to know to whom my request should be addressed.

I've exposed the full headers from your message. This is what you do to figure
out what list server runs a list.

>Return-Path: <[email-masked]>
>Sender: [email-masked]

These 2 lines are an alias for a person, the list owner. If you have trouble
with commands, send a message to this person.

>X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN

This tells you that the server is ListProc. So, send a message

To: [email-masked]

[leave Subject blank]

signoff [or unsubscribe] pine-info [the e-mail address you subscribed under]

[delete any .sig]

Other common servers are Majordomo and LISTSERV. The procedure is generally
similar. Sometimes on ListProc and LISTSERV lists you MUST use signoff rather
than unsubscribe. Signoff was the traditional command, and they sometimes
forget to alias unsubscribe to it.

Generally the alias for the list owner is owner-[listname], except pine-info
uses [listname]-owner, which is nonstandard.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT)

The messages distributed to this list should now contain the URL for the
"about this list" page in their To: line.

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  Stefan Kramer                   [email-masked]
  Computing & Communications        University of Washington    
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Eleanor Gilpatrick wrote:

EG} Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
EG} From: Eleanor Gilpatrick <[email-masked]>
EG} To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
EG} Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:06:01 -0400 (EDT)
EG} Subject: Where to send unsubscribe message
EG} 
EG} I wonder if anyone knows how to unsubscribe to pine-info.
EG} I am used to having that listed at the end of messages, and all my 
EG} attempts have failed.  I seem not to know to whom my request should be 
EG} addressed.
EG} 
EG}

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 [email-masked] wrote:

} The messages distributed to this list should now contain the URL for the
} "about this list" page in their To: line.

... preferrably, in a way that does not create a mangled To: header! ;-)

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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:29:14 -0700 (PDT)

wouldn't it be better to add it to the bottom..that seems to be the
standard, anyway.

It would make it much easier on the eyes, I tell you.

Vinnie
--
[email-masked] System Administrator Epoch Internet
"Connecting The World, One Business At A Time......
By Caring About A Customers Success"
[email-masked] Spam Patrol

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 [email-masked] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: [email-masked]
> To: Pine Discussion Forum - http: 
>     "//www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/" <[email-masked]> ;
> Subject: Re: Where to send unsubscribe message
> 
>

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:37:48 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Drachen wrote:

D} wouldn't it be better to add it to the bottom..that seems to be the
D} standard, anyway.
D} 
D} It would make it much easier on the eyes, I tell you.
D} ....

I agree, but there appears to be no configuration to append "constant" text
to each posting with ListProc.  I have checked with our ListProc caretakers
to see whether there is a way, and in that case will definitely move the
text to the bottom.  (For now, I've made it shorter.)

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  Stefan Kramer                   [email-masked]
  University of Washington        Computing & Communications        
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