Subject: oh yes...sendmail is much better.

From: onamission <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:23:44 +0000 (GMT)

Well...I installed sendmail and fetchmail.  I returned inbox path to the
default.  Then, from the command line issused "fetchmail -a -pop3
mail.cgocable.net"  It went out and grabbed 35 pieces of mail.  I was
beside myself with glee.  So I issused the command again and it retrieved
another 4 messages.  

So I thought....man, you're popular.  I fired up pine and the mailbox was
empty.  No problem I figured....it's somehwere in the system and i just
have to direct pine to where it is.  I stumbled across the file
/var/spool/mqueue and there seemed to be some funny looking files in it.
I went back and told pine to look there and it said it couldn't find it.
So I went back to the mqueue directory and the files were gone.

I searched around in the log files and here's an  excerpt.

Mar 20 00:36:54 ona sendmail[151]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(ona): queuename: Cannot
create "qfAAA00151" in "/var/spool/mqueue" (euid=1000): Permission denied
Mar 20 00:41:52 ona syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Mar 20 00:43:33 ona sendmail[151]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(ona): queuename: Cannot
create "qfAAA00151" in "/var/spool/mqueue" (euid=1000): Permission denied
Mar 20 01:20:14 ona mail.local: /var/spool/mail/ona: Permission denied
Mar 20 01:20:43 ona last message repeated 35 times

It also said that it had returned all the mail.  I'm obviously no expert,
but I'm sure that's not a good thing.

What am I doing wrong?

Ona....twisted mind???...no, just bent in several strategic places.

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From: Bill Schiavo <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:47:37 -0500 (EST)

> So I went back to the mqueue directory and the files were gone.
Naturally.  That mqueue directory is used by sendmail.  your mail may
still be in /var/spool/mail/username.  That's where it's supposed to be if
your system is configured correctly.  
> Ona....twisted mind???...no, just bent in several strategic places.
Regards!

P.S.  check that fetchmail is configured correctly.

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From: onamission <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:00:31 +0000 (GMT)

> your system is configured correctly.  

Afterwards, I made a directory called Ona.  I tried to point Pine in that
direction, but it couldn't access it.  Any pointers would be helpful as
I'm not too experienced with Linux yet.

> P.S.  check that fetchmail is configured correctly.

Again I'm not sure what to look for.  If I'm not using an rc file, only a
command line I figure it should work.

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 20 Mar 1998 09:01:15 +0100

> onamission <[email-masked]> has problems...

> Well...I installed sendmail and fetchmail.  I returned inbox path to
> the default.  Then, from the command line issused "fetchmail -a
> -pop3 mail.cgocable.net" It went out and grabbed 35 pieces of mail.
> I was beside myself with glee.  So I issused the command again and
> it retrieved another 4 messages.  So I thought....man, you're
> popular.  

No. Those were 39 mails trying to tell you that you need to read the
FM.

> I fired up pine and the mailbox was empty.  No problem I figured... it's
> somehwere in the system and i just have to direct pine to where it is.

And so you do. Check the pinerc.

> I stumbled across the file /var/spool/mqueue and there seemed to be
> some funny looking files in it.  

mailq would have saved you *that* trouble.

> I went back and told pine to look there and it said it couldn't find
> it.  So I went back to the mqueue directory and the files were gone.

Jehova! That's your *out*going directory, hence the name.

> I searched around in the log files and here's an excerpt.  Mar
> 20 00:36:54 ona sendmail[151]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(ona): queuename:
> Cannot create "qfAAA00151" in "/var/spool/mqueue" (euid=1000):

Well, it's there loud and clear - you've messed with the permissions. What
does ls -al /var/spool/ | grep mqueue say?

> It also said that it had returned all the mail.  I'm obviously no
> expert, but I'm sure that's not a good thing.  What am I doing
> wrong?

1. You've got no name.
2. Your signature has no sigdashes.
3. You're in the wroooong group.
4. You want to get a clue. man sendmail, man chmod and probably man
   pine.

Cheers,
Robin

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