Subject: another monotonous question

From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:33:31 -0500 (EST)

Here's a question for all you pine gurus, I'm sure it's been asked fifty
billion times:

I'm sick and tired of thinking stupid subject headers.  I hate it; every time
I compose a new message I have yet to think of some silly verbage to amuse my
peers, and although every now and then I can think of one with some cunning
form of irony, I'd rather just have it be a random thing.  So, as you might
have seen my allusion-- how can I make pine grab a random line from a text
file, probably with some delimiter between the lines, and stick it right there
on the subject line?  I'd be interested to know whether or not I could execute
a small perl script to do such a thing without actually recompiling pine;
recompiling pine would currently be far above my head.  Can you execute
commands from the customized headers settings in the configuration?  Thank you
so much.

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 [email-masked] * Mike Cross *  Minister of Propaganda
 "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman
  Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides.
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From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:21:38 -0500 (EST)

word wrap.  please please please.

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 07 Mar 1998 17:39:07 +0100

> Mike  <[email-masked]> writes:

> I'm sick and tired  of thinking stupid subject  headers.  I hate it;
> every time I compose a new message I have yet to think of some silly
> verbage to amuse  my peers, and although every   now and then I  can
> think of one with some  cunning form of  irony, I'd rather just have
> it be a random thing.  So, as you might have  seen my allusion-- how
> can I make pine grab a  random line from  a text file, probably with
> some delimiter between  the lines, and stick it  right there on  the
> subject line?

Well, you're not going to write a reply, so you don't really need
pine for creating the mail. Use mail and cat fortune -o into the
header. mutt understands a command line "subject" as well.

Sorry for being such a boring pragmatist,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
> Is it considered a sin against Emacs to use Pico for text justification?
It is unneeded.  Emacs has the fine command "M-x dissociated-press"
which simulates exactly what Pico would do to your text. (CDInchauste)

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From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:59:30 -0500 (EST)

>header. mutt understands a command line "subject" as well.

Actually, I think I was unclear on that.  I would very much like to write a
reply, I just would like to compose a new message and find a random one lined
quote there, from fortune or whatever.  Then I can just skip down to the body
and scribble my thoughts out, totally unrelated to the subject because, in
this situation, my friends don't care, but I dont want to send something
without a header, in case they reply.  They get sick of "jhjheryasdneti" as
the subject every time.

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 07 Mar 1998 20:05:43 +0100

> Actually, I think I was unclear on that.  I would very much like to
> write a reply, I just would like to compose a new message and find a
> random one lined quote there, from fortune or whatever.

Huh? Could I have the "I would very much like to write a reply, I just
would like to compose a new message"-part in plain English, please?
When writing a reply, you don't want to change the subject, right?

> Then I can just skip down to the body and scribble my thoughts out,
> totally unrelated to the subject because, in this situation, my
> friends don't care, but I dont want to send something without a
> header, in case they reply.  They get sick of "jhjheryasdneti" as
> the subject every time.

[x] you want mail or mutt

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
Q: What's the difference between a Spice Girls movie and a porno film?
A:The music's better in a porno film. 			     (C. Jett)

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From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:34:46 -0500 (EST)

>When writing a reply, you don't want to change the subject, right?

WHEN I WRITE A NEW EMAIL IN PINE, I WANT A RANDOM LINE AUTOMATICALLY INSERTED
INTO THE SUBJECT FIELD.

I want to know if I can execute a command from the preferences in pine.

Assume fortune always spits out a one liner.  Psuedo example of what I want:

(In pine)

Settings:
	Default Composer Headers:
		To:
		Cc:
		Subject: `/usr/games/fotune`

Will something like this work?  Thank you

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From: Henrik Edlund <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:24:24 +0100 (CET)

> word wrap.  please please please.

What do you mean? Pine already has word wrap...

-- 
Henrik Edlund <[email-masked]>
PGP Public Key available at http://www.piett.com/about/pgp.txt

  "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes."
                  Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:02:32 +0100

> Regarding Re: another monotonous question[3]; Mike
> <[email-masked]> adds: 

Your threading is broken, you fscked up the references, Mike. BTW,
it's not customary to use [[0-9]] for references.

> WHEN I WRITE A NEW EMAIL IN PINE, I WANT A RANDOM LINE AUTOMATICALLY
> INSERTED INTO THE SUBJECT FIELD.

"By the way, "xset  -led 3" (I think  that's the number) will turn off
the Caps Lock LED on your keyboard - this may  be necessary to keep it
from burning out after extended periods of heavy use." (Roy Stogner)

> I want to know if I can execute a command from the preferences in

I already told you it can't.

> Assume fortune always spits out a one liner.  Psuedo example of
> what I want: (In pine) Settings: Default Composer Headers: To: Cc:

Cool. What's fotune? How would you make sure it coughs up one-liners?

> Will something like this work?

No. But sigdashes will. Use them.

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
Robin: You are a rude twit. (Sam Trenholme)

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:04:44 +0100

>> "HE" == Henrik Edlund <[email-masked]> writes:

>> word wrap.  please please please.
HE> What do you mean? Pine already has word wrap...

So, having a Real Editor instead of pico would be a pretty cool thing
for pine 4. What about joe?

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
We've seen the restless children at the head of the columns
Come to purify the future with the arrogance of youth

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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:39:20 -0800 (PST)

you don't have it???? Pico does, and in general, I believe (at least in
unix) that the default (as in, you didn't set it yourself) editor is
pico.

Vinnie

> word wrap.  please please please.

<quotes trimmed for robin and all other "bandwidthly impaired" individuals
:) >

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From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:56:46 -0500 (EST)

I'm sure that someone is going to yell at me again cause he/she thinks I'm
stupid, and I'm obvioulsy not the genious that it is, just like every time I
post here, but whenever I type a block of text and then decide to add maybe a
quarter of a line to the one above it, it gets all broken up and doesnt fix
itself.  I mean, it word wraps, but doesnt fix itself if you insert a word.
At least not here on this server running pico and pine.

><quotes trimmed for robin and all other "bandwidthly impaired" individuals

___________________________________________________________________________
[email-masked] * Minister of Propaganda * Deceive, Inveigle, Obfuscate
       "If you can't convince them, confuse them." - Harry S Truman
         Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides.
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 10 Mar 1998 00:27:19 +0100

> I'm sure that someone  is  going to yell  at  me again cause  he/she
> thinks I'm  stupid, and I'm  obvioulsy not the   genious that it is,
> just like every time I post here,

(x) go back to Mummy, whiner...

> above it, it gets all broken  up and doesnt fix  itself.  I mean, it
> word wraps, but doesnt fix itself if you insert a word.

You just don't get it, do you? Pico is a *simple*  editor. If you want
advanced  features  like filladapt,  you   need  to  set  an  external
editor. But I've told you that twice before.

Now, will you please stop it?

Robin

P.S. Do you know XEmacs20.5-beta30? If you send another mail with all
the quoted text in it, I'll send you a personal evaluation copy.

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
Robin, you cannot be *that* stooopid, can you? (Tim Smith)

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:31:35 -0600 (CST)

>From: Mike <[email-masked]>
>Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:56:46 -0500 (EST)

>At least not here on this server running pico and pine.

Oh, you want automatic justification. That makes me dizzy.

Seems silly to make changes to pico when there are other choices.

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From: Lars Scheffmann <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:06:48 +0100 (MET)

> At least not here on this server running pico and pine.

You are quit right, Pico won't justify the text after insertions, but try
the <CTRL>J command, which is showed in the menu at the bottom of the
composer screen. 

^J Justify

And it works!
All text in a section, from one blank line to the next, is justified. 

Regards

Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: [email-masked]
Dept. of Academic Information Technology  Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366

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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:17:32 -0800 (PST)

ctrl-j reformats paragraphs...  

it took me a bit to get around to finding that in the help file (which is
poorly laid out if you happen to be dyslexic like me..I don't know if it's
better laid out for normal people :) ) so I'm not even thinking about
yelling at you for being stupid.

Vinnie