Subject: Signatures in pine

From: Svante Almkvist <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:57:17 +0100 (CET)

Is there anyone who has any hint of a cool signature?
My is not much fun...

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Svante Almkvist

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From: Mike Mahaffy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:18:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

Try and do some ASCII art.

Mike....

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Svante Almkvist wrote:

->To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
->From: Svante Almkvist <[email-masked]>
->Subject: Signatures in pine
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->Is there anyone who has any hint of a cool signature?
->My is not much fun...
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->Svante Almkvist
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->________________________________________________________________
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Mike Mahaffy
Data/Computer/Systems Coordinator
School of Architecture
Washington State University
Pullman, WA  99164-2220
509/335-6109 voice
509/335-6132 fax
[email-masked]

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 26 Mar 1998 19:00:23 +0100

> Mike Mahaffy <[email-masked]> had a major blackout...

Darling:

1. Read the Netiquette.
2. Read it again so you'll have a chance to understand.
3. Make your signature according to son-of-RFC-1632 or something, ie
   o 4 lines max
   o "-- \n" at the beginning
   o Remember that thine sig shall not suck

Geez...

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Martin Luther was angry with the world. He wrote a new religion.
Galileo was angry with the world. He wrote a new science.
You were angry with the world. You stuck a frankfurter up your ass.

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From: Mike Mahaffy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:47:08 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

Netiquette.  How on earth do you? 
->You were angry with the world. You stuck a frankfurter up your ass.

Onceagainplease...

Mike......

Mike Mahaffy
Data/Computer/Systems Coordinator
Washington State University,School of Architecture
Pullman, WA  99164-2220
509/335-6109 voice - 509/335-6132 fax

Better ?  OK so 5 lines.

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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:09:12 -0800 (PST)

gack!
nonononono!ascii art = bad

sig guidelines -- some sort of separator (some purists say two dashes and
a space..I don't think it's *that* important) then four lines or less of
quote, info or other stuff.  

--
[email-masked] System Administrator Epoch Internet
"Connecting The World, One Business At A Time......
By Caring About A Customers Success"
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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Mike Mahaffy wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:18:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
> From: Mike Mahaffy <[email-masked]>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: Signatures in pine
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 26 Mar 1998 21:39:40 +0100

> Drachen <[email-masked]> writes:

> sig guidelines -- some sort of separator (some purists say two
> dashes and a space..I don't think it's *that* important) 

No, Vinnie, it *is* important. See, Real MUAs(tm) can do this:

(setq message-cite-function 
      'message-cite-original-without-signature)

This means that if a signature is properly separated from the body, it
will not be included in the reply.[1] This is a nifty feature that pine
sorely lacks (sigs should *never* be included in a reply). Because of
people like you, Vinnie, poor guys like have to hack elisp, which can
be a real pain. The result is this:

;;* This one takes care of fscked-up signatures
(setq gnus-signature-separator
      '("^-- $"         ; The standard
	"^-- *$"        ; A common mangling
	"^-------*$"    ; Many people just use a looong 
			; line of dashes.  Shame!
	"^ *--------*$" ; Double-shame!
	"^________*$"   ; Underscores are also popular
	"^========*$")) ; Pervert!

Not really necessary, is it?

> then four lines or less of quote, info or other stuff.

Most of what you probably consider "info" actually belongs in the
X-header, eg your URL, your Attribution and the like.

Cheers,
Robin

Footnotes: 
[1]  It also gets highlighted by certain mailers, it can be suppressed,
     and my database scans it for addresses so I don't have to bother
     with [email-masked] and the like.

-- 
Robin S. Socha
yoda of borg i am, assimilated you will be. futile resistance is.

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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:11:28 -0800 (PST)

Unfortunetly, certain "modern" mail readers don't handle things in the
headers really well

of course, these are the same readers that are nicely and easily crashed
by java and html, so this may be easily fixable :>

and the idea that said mail readers care about sig dashes amuses me
muchly.

I don't like it, but I can't change it..
at least not until march 31st :) for netscape
face it, M$ products will never work right.

and since I deal with customers and cow-orkers all day who use the blasted
M$ products, it's a necessity for me.

Vinnie