Subject: what

From: Johan Sj�berg <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:15 +0200 (EET)

How can you send a letter to another person secret

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From: Norbert Koch <[email-masked]>
Date: 09 Jan 1998 13:00:52 +0100

>>>On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:15 +0200 (EET), =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?= <[email-masked]> said:

Hi,

first of all ... please have a look at your slightly mal formatted
name :-) it's not very easy to pronounce, is it?

 j> How can you send a letter to another person secret 

Hmm, we had a discussion about this not long ago. Why in all world
would you need to send a letter to someone secret. Btw, what do you
mean, when you write secret? 

l8er, norbert.

--
Norbert Koch
a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing!

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From: Lea <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 (MST)

> How can you send a letter to another person secret

Do it very quietly.

Re closing the list to subscribers only:  I'm probably wrong and
too tired to think straight anyhow, but just a sec - I thought
that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with
off-topic posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup
gateways posts to list.  Is that right?  I probably explained it
wrong, but basically I thought there was some sort of transfer
between the two entities.  If we stopped the
newsgroup-to-mailing-list flow, wouldn't that fix the problem?

Lea

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:46:36 -0600 (CST)

>From: Lea <[email-masked]>
>Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 (MST)

>I thought that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with off-topic
>posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup gateways posts to list.

The gateway was eliminated several months ago.

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:49:58 +0000 (GMT)

It was indeed bi-directionally gatewayed to comp.mail.pine for quite a
long time.  However the gatewaying broke and nobody noticed for 2-3
months.

They then sought opinion on the List whether the gateway should be
re-established and the result was, if memory serves, that it shouldn't be. 

The idea was, I think, that comp.mail.pine would be more
newbie-question-ish whilst pine-info focussed more on discussing ways of
improving and devloping Pine.

Mark Crispin/David Miller/Another Pine Team Entity... care to comment?

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:19:48 -0800 (PST)

> re-established and the result was, if memory serves, that it shouldn't be. 

Yup.  Another factor was that no-one stepped forward as a volunteer to
re-establish and maintain the gateway. 

> improving and devloping Pine.

That was the hope, though I haven't really seen much shift in that
direction :-(

We would love to restrict pine-info postings to subscribers, but there
are just too many pointers to it floating around.  When/if Listproc
can generate a satisfactory "bounce" message for non-subscribers, we
may consider the restriction.  BTW, we're also considering a way to
allow posting to comp.mail.pine through the (re-designed) Bug Report
screen.

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Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | statement is a false statement.
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From: Drachen <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:54:22 -0800 (PST)

> newsgroup-to-mailing-list flow, wouldn't that fix the problem?

more like the webtraffic-to-mailing-list flow--make them either type in
the email address of the list, or else make the only place one can get to
it on a page which says in big letters "Pine is an email program. This is
a list for questions about pine. Not anything else."

<shrug>
it might help

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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:49:40 +0800 (GMT)

> How can you send a letter to another person secret

By "secret" do you mean that only the intended receipient can read it?

There are various methods for doing this.  However, both ends need to 
support the method being used.

I use PGP for this purpose.   http://www.pgp.com

-- 
Edward M. Greshko                  Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D  Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC  3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE

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From: Caroline Brossi Yates <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:45:43 -0500 (EST)

> improving and devloping Pine.

If you want to remove newbie questions from this list, try removing the
suggestion on the Pine Web page that people should email their questions
to this list. Or at least state your above description on the Pine web
page.

my ta'pence...

-Caroline