Subject: distribution list question

From: SuperFly !! <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:33:43 -0600 (CST)

I created a distribution list using pine, ( an e-mail list). I would like
to know if there is anyway i can hide the addresses of the mailing list.
So when i send out a list every address is not exposed to the recipients.
Is there a hide option I can use ? Any info would be great !!

Thanks 
Chris Sacco

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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:46 +0800 (GMT)

> Is there a hide option I can use ? Any info would be great !!

Put your cursor in the header area.
Type cntrl-r.  This brings you to the "rich-headers".
Put your cursor on the Lcc: header.
Type cntrl-g to read the help on Lcc:

Lcc: does what you want.

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From: Cliff Green <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:25 -0500 (EST)

> Type cntrl-g to read the help on Lcc:

Or it should.  We get the following error and the mail is returned:

<--- failed mail follows --->

>From [email-masked] Wed Jan 21 22:05:26 1998
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Returned mail: List alias test:  ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses

The original message was received at Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 -0500 (EST)
from green@localhost

   ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications -----
List alias test:  ;  (unrecoverable error)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
553 List alias test:  ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses

  [ Part 2: "Included Message" ]

Reporting-MTA: dns; rwja.UMDNJ.EDU
Arrival-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 -0500 (EST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; @rwja.UMDNJ.EDU
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.3
Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST)

  [ Part 3: "Included Message" ]

[test message munched]

<--- failed mail ends --->

SO, my question is the obvious:  what are we doing wrong?

c
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From: Norbert Koch <[email-masked]>
Date: 22 Jan 1998 07:05:50 +0100

>>>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:25 -0500 (EST), Cliff Green <[email-masked]> said:
Hi,

[good comments on Lcc:]

 CG> Or it should.  We get the following error and the mail is
 CG> returned:

 CG> <--- failed mail follows --->

 >> From [email-masked] Wed Jan 21 22:05:26 1998
 CG> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery
 CG> Subsystem <[email-masked]> To: [email-masked] Subject:
 CG> Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for
 CG> recipient addresses

 CG> The original message was received at Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03
 CG> -0500 (EST) from green@localhost

[rest of error message]

is it possible that the separator (semicolon, isn't it) is wrong? I've
just had a look into the tech-notes:

The address field takes one of two forms, depending on whether the entry is a
single (simple) address or a distribution list. For a simple entry, the
address field is the email-address part of the address, i.e., the part that
goes inside the brackets (<>). It is combined with the fullname field to form
the complete address. For a distribution list, the <address> is in the format:

          "(" <address>, <address>, <address>, ... ")"

just a guess, norbert.

-- 
Norbert Koch
a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing!

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From: Terry Gray <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:48 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

Cliff,
Contrary to the message from your MTA, the so-called "group" syntax
  foo: ;
is valid, i.e., is compliant with the standard... but not all MTAs
accept it.

Two choices: upgrade your MTA or replace the To: address with any
conventional (non "group") address.  Don't leave the To: field blank or
some (other) MTAs will add an "Apparently-To" line for each recipient.

-teg

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:51:27 -0600 (CST)

>From: Norbert Koch <[email-masked]>
>Date: 22 Jan 1998 07:05:50 +0100

>>Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient
                                ^^^
>>addresses

>is it possible that the separator (semicolon, isn't it) is wrong?

That looks right. ": ;" is a signal to sendmail that addresses that follow
should not be placed on the To header.

>I've just had a look into the tech-notes: 

>          "(" <address>, <address>, <address>, ... ")"
                        ^          ^          ^
It's the address list itself that must be comma-delimited. But, that has
nothing to do with the ": ;" that is placed on the To.