Subject: Re: Installing Pine

From: John Powell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 09:25:02 -0600 (CST)

Thanx for you responses.

To answer your queries:

I have the permissions set for r-x. I was running the file by ./newpine 
when in the directory newpine resided when I got the 'file not found' 
message which is so much perplexing.  I do not have a sticky bit that I 
know of (at least the current PINE is only rwxr-xr-x.

I assume that the binary is compiled correctly as I got it from 
washington as the Linux binary.  I am running Linux 1.2.5.

It is not linked as I do not want to foul up other users until it is stable.

I DO NOT understand how it can not find the file, it would make since if 
it said could not execute, but the file IS there!

Any other suggestion please pass them down.

Thanx All!

John

On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, SandraB wrote:

> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:49:13 -0500
> From: SandraB <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: Installing Pine
> 
> On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Drachen wrote:
> 
> > B. you have the permissions set--including (especially) execute? (ls -al)
> 
> John, on that note:
> 
> On our AIX system, we have the "sticky bit" set so our permissions look like:
> 	pine	rwxr-sr-x
> 
> > C. you're in the correct directory, and the binary is in that directory?
> > (pwd and ls)
> 
> Along that line:
> I'm not sure what you mean by "I ran it from my own directory".  You mean your
> "home" directory?  Is that where you installed it originally?
> 
> If newpine now resides in /usr/bin, do you have the #PATH statement set in
> your home .profile?
> 	For example: #PATH=/usr/bin
> 
> And also as Robin suggested, check that it is linked. Ours has two links,
> /usr/bin and /bin.
> 
> Hope some of this helps.
> 
> Sandra
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> 
> 
> > On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, John Powell wrote:
> 
> > > I copied down the new Pine Binary for 3.96 (1 file).  I moved it to 
> > > /usr/bin. and also ran it from my own directory.
> > > 
> > > When Pine is run (./newpine - my renamed binary file) the following message 
> > > appears:
> > > 
> > > bash: ./newpine: No such file or directory
> > > 
> > > HELP!!!!
> > > 
> > > What am I missing?
> > > 
> > > I am running Linux 1.2.5 on a 486/66.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John Powell
> > > Sysadmin, IEEE South Saskatchewan Section
> > > [email-masked] 
> > > 
> 
> 

John Powell
Sysadmin, IEEE South Saskatchewan Section
[email-masked]

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 27 Dec 1997 16:39:10 +0100

> Regarding Re: Installing Pine; John Powell  adds: 

JP> I have the permissions set for r-x. I was running the file by
JP> ./newpine when in the directory newpine resided when I got the
JP> 'file not found' message which is so much perplexing.  I do not
JP> have a sticky bit that I know of (at least the current PINE is
JP> only rwxr-xr-x.

ll `which pine`:
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root  root   1171144 Nov 14 17:18 /usr/bin/pine

Looks ok.

JP> I assume that the binary is compiled correctly as I got it from
JP> washington as the Linux binary.

Same here, but self compiled (what else }:->).

JP> I am running Linux 1.2.5.

*meeeeeeeeeeeep* Time to update...

JP> It is not linked as I do not want to foul up other users until it
JP> is stable.

Hm?

JP> I DO NOT understand how it can not find the file, it would make
JP> since if it said could not execute, but the file IS there!

I just tried what you suggested and it works. There must be something
really, really wrong with your setup. Let me sum this up: you (user)
can execute /usr/bin/pine, right? You (user) have copied the file to
~/. Then you cd'ed and ~/pine'd, right? Gotta work...

JP> Any other suggestion please pass them down.

Reboot. Oooops, this is not Windos, sorry...

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
Robin: You are a rude twit. (Sam Trenholme)

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From: John Powell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 10:09:24 -0600 (CST)

The old version of PINE works no matter where I have the binary sitting, 
it is only the 'new' version of pine that keeps on saying file not found!!!

How can it say file not found when the file is there?

Other responses to questions are interspaced below.

Thanx,

John

On 27 Dec 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> Date: 27 Dec 1997 16:39:10 +0100
> From: Robin S. Socha <[email-masked]>
> To: John Powell <[email-masked]>
> Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <[email-masked]>

Any suggestions for how to do this?  This is definitely a New Frontier!

> ~/. Then you cd'ed and ~/pine'd, right? Gotta work...

The version I am having trouble with is the new PINE, the old 
version runs from anywhere on my server (ie copied it here, there, 
everywhere, it works!)  Last time I upgraded pine, it was a snap!!!!  All 
I did was copy the binary to  /usr/bin and it worked.  Maybe it is a 
Linux Version Problem, I dunno!

John Powell

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 27 Dec 1997 17:47:37 +0100

> "JP" == John Powell <[email-masked]> writes:

JP> The old version of PINE works no matter where I have the binary
JP> sitting, it is only the 'new' version of pine that keeps on saying
JP> file not found!!!  How can it say file not found when the file is
JP> there?

rm -rf `locate pine`, then re-install.

> *meeeeeeeeeeeep* Time to update...
JP> Any suggestions for how to do this?  This is definitely a New
JP> Frontier!

Oh dear... Ummmmm... what distrib are you running? You can suck distribs
over the net or (SuSE and RH at least) update via NFS.  You can get RH5
from Cheapbytes at $1.99 or something. S.u.S.E. should be like $40 with
book. If you just want to update the kernel (you are probably running
some medieval Lackware distrib and should update the entire system) cd
/usr/src/linux, ftp 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org, patch -p0 < patchfile, 
make menuconfig, make dep clean zImage modules modules_install; follow 
the instructions in /usr/src/linux/README, done. Should be like 10
minutes on a LaME MacHIne...

Speaking of frontiers, btw, check "Bright Frontier" by Heather Nova,
that should get you in the right mood. Got a rope somewhere?

[correct pine being execed]
JP> The version I am having trouble with is the new PINE, the old
JP> version runs from anywhere on my server. Last time I upgraded
JP> pine, it was a snap!!!!  All I did was copy the binary to /usr/bin
JP> and it worked.  Maybe it is a Linux Version Problem, I dunno!

Stop whining, you're a blatant disgrace to the entire admindom }:->
Grab the pine sources, recompile, install. See to it that you rm
the old stuff first. Hell, if all else fails, gimme an ssh to your
system. I'll fix that stuff for you, then... Heheheeee... [1]

Keep us updated, this is starting to get seriously funny here,
Robin

Footnotes: 
[1]  alias pine='mutt' or alias pine='xemacs -nw -f gnus' should do
     the trick...

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A. (*PLONK*ed by Jost Boekemeier)
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
  Masochist: Windows programmer with a smile!

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From: John Powell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:42:23 -0600 (CST)

Well, I did download the source code and did a build.  It works as shown
by this message.

I guess there is something wrong with linux binary at washington.

Thanx all!

-John

On 27 Dec 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> Date: 27 Dec 1997 17:47:37 +0100
> From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>

John Powell

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 27 Dec 1997 20:31:38 +0100

> Regarding Re: Installing Pine; John Powell adds:

JP> Well, I did download the source code and did a build.  It works as
JP> shown by this message.  I guess there is something wrong with
JP> linux binary at washington.

I guess there's something wrong with your system. Anyway, all's
well...

Emmm... you really don't need to quote entire messages, you know };->

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
Customer: "I'm using Windows 95"          Tech Support: "Yes..."
Customer: "My computer isn't working now" Tech Support: "Yes, you said that"