Subject: vanishing saved-mail files (unix) (3.96)

From: Jan Vilhuber <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 00:02:31 -0800 (PST)

I sent in a bug report on this a little while ago, but I haven't heard
anything about it. Not even sure if it's a pine problem, but it's sure
looking that way...

I'm running 3.96 on Solaris 2.5.1 (SunOS 5.5.1 Generic_103640-08 sun4u sparc
SUNW,Ultra-2), with the home directory either mounted via NFS or on local
disk (I tried both with the same result), and ever so often, saved mail
files (fcc files) vanish.

It doesn't appear to be related to an overfull disk, as this happened
recently when the disk was at 45% (plenty of space).  Also, it doesn't seem
to be related to file-size, as the files that have vanished ranged from
quite small to several megabytes. I've got files that I use quite frequently,
which are HUGE, which haven't vanished yet. Memory should also not be an
issue, as the machines I use have several gigabytes of memory (some 2 gig,
others 128Meg, others 3 Gig).

Usually I'll notice that the file is gone, when I try to send a message to
someone for whom I KNOW I've created a file, and I'm asked if I want to
create the file for the fcc. Usually I've sent this person email a few hours
previously, although I can't be sure if the file vanished 5 seconds
previously, or five hours.

Has anyone else seen this? I suppose it COULD be OS related (i.e. Solaris'
fault), but somehow that doesn't sound right.

I've turned on debugging for pine, but didn't see anything obvious in a log
file, which was created when it asked me if I wanted to create an fcc file,
which I know existed previously.

I've lost several mail files already, and it's quite annoying, as I rely on
saved mail quite a bit..

Ideas?

jan
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Jan Vilhuber                                            [email-masked]
Cisco Systems, San Jose                                     (408) 527-0847

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From: Jan Vilhuber <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:00:15 -0800 (PST)

Still no reply on this. Second attempt.

Thanks!
jan

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 04 Dec 1997 03:21:21 +0100

>> "JV" == Jan Vilhuber <[email-masked]> writes:

JV> Still no reply on this. Second attempt.

If you don't receive an answer, the answer is:

[ ] we don't know
[ ] it's a secret and we'd have to shoot you if we told you
[ ] all of the above

JV> Thanks!

You're welcome. Stop forwarding lenghthy messages.

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
One question: How come the .44 magnum is the worlds only usable point
and click interface ?					     Alan Cox

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From: Jan Vilhuber <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:29:28 -0800 (PST)

Gosh, I'm SOOO glad people on this list are so helpful.

If you prefer shorter messages, how about:

"Pine doesn't work."

You prefer those, I take it. So much more information in that...

Bite me.

jan

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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:45:04 +0800 (GMT)

> Gosh, I'm SOOO glad people on this list are so helpful.

Sigh.....

> You prefer those, I take it. So much more information in that...

Of course not.  I believe the suggestion is that when you send a "second
request" there is no need to quote the entire "first request".

Now to answer your question....

> > [X] we don't know  ..... or we would have said something by now.

I run pine on an SS1000E and SS20 running Solaris 2.5.1 at the same kernel
patch you indicated.

I've never seen your problem.

Regards,
Ed

-- 
Edward M. Greshko                  Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:51:03 +0800 (GMT)

> Still no reply on this. Second attempt.

Oh, I forgot to mention one thing.  The folks on this list are quite
similar to you and me.  We all have "day jobs" and we don't answer
questions on this list for a living.  We just do it in our spare time.

Sometimes, the folks with most of the answers are not around.  Maybe they
are off doing Christmas shopping or other "real life" stuff.

So, it really isn't a good idea to post messages which can be taken to
say, "Why haven't *you* answered me yet!".  (Note: I'm not saying that was
your intent....only that it could be taken by some as that.)

Anyway, good luck with your problem.  If you don't have control over the
system....you may want to check with the sysadmin.  Maybe they have some
type of archive program which has gone crazy?

Regards,
Ed