Subject: New focus for Pine-Info

From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT)

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We haven't seen any outcry of support for re-establishing the gateway
between pine-info and comp.mail.pine, so we are considering the split
to be more-or-less permanent.  As a result, we would like to see a
shift in the focus of the discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a
more technical discussion of issues important to pine/system
administrators, contributors, and advanced users.  We do not have (nor
do we want ;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup... 

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 06 Oct 1997 23:14:30 +0200

>> "DLM" == David L Miller <[email-masked]> writes:

DLM> As a result, we would like to see a shift in the focus of the
DLM> discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a more technical
DLM> discussion of issues important to pine/system administrators,
DLM> contributors, and advanced users.  We do not have (nor do we
DLM> want;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup...

IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine.

Cheers,
Robin

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From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:36:30 -0700 (PDT)

> IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine.

Nope.  We're just asking nicely... :-)

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From: Lars Scheffmann <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:05:14 +0200 (DDT)

> Nope.  We're just asking nicely... :-)

I will look forward to have a list as you suggest, so we can get rid of
all the "simple" user questions, which can be solved by using the
extremely good HELP-functions in Pine, or just read the available
documentation.

Please don't flame me for this opinion, because I think we can use two
lists, one for beginners and one for system administrators etc. 

Regards

Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: [email-masked]
Dept. of Academic Information Systems     Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:34:18 +0200

>> "LS" == Lars Scheffmann <[email-masked]> writes:
>> Nope.  We're just asking nicely... :-)

LS> I will look forward to have a list as you suggest, so we can get
LS> rid of all the "simple" user questions, which can be solved by
LS> using the extremely good HELP-functions in Pine, or just read the
LS> available documentation.

Umm... one thing that struck me as odd, though: pine is mainly a
newsreader, so it might be overly tempting to write a quick mail when
in trouble. Whatever... Maybe there ought to be a "developer" or
"advanced user" list, but... just what would one want to advance from
with pine? IMO, about 90% of the questions put on this list are useage 
question that are covered by the docs in one way or another.

LS> Please don't flame me for this opinion, because I think we can use
LS> two lists, one for beginners and one for system administrators
LS> etc.

I think you're perfectly right, but unless the sysadmin list is closed
(good) or moderated (bad), your idea will probably not work.

Just my DM,02,
Robin

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From: Timothy J Luoma <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 17:39:49 -0400

Author:        "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
	Original-Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:34:18 +0200
	Message-ID:    <[email-masked]>

> (good) or moderated (bad), your idea will probably not work.

But it will be a LOT easier to point to the FAQ/online help here, whereas I  
was flamed for doing so on the newsgroup JUST because someone had asked 'How  
do I change my "From"' for the fourth time that week.

TjL