Subject: Pine JUNK

From: auto-open-next-unread <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:33:53 -0400 (edt)

Hey Man,  we have been developing software for some 15 years.
NEVER have I seen such sloppiness in work.
CTRL_C Dosen't work.
Nobody checks these things?

Now, how do I get the old version of pine back? Or barring that, who will 
fix this mess?

Ahhhhh netscape is looking better and better....
M.

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From: Lea <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:52:22 -0600 (MDT)

> Nobody checks these things?

CTRL-C works fine on our UNIX system running 3.96 Pine.
What version of Pine are you using and on what platform?

Lea
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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:32:52 +0800 (GMT)

> Now, how do I get the old version of pine back? Or barring that, who will 

You may have been developing software for "some" 15 years but you seem
unaware how to report problems with software.  If someone were to report
this as an error to SW you developed without giving full information as
to the platform and version being used....what would your answer be?

Oh, BTW, chances are very good that the control-c problem you are
experiencing is not the fault of pine but with your terminal emulation SW,
or shell, interpreting and acting upon the control-c and *not* passing it
to pine.

So, if you can calm down long enough to send folks a complete description
of your environment....someone may be able to enlighten you.

> Ahhhhh netscape is looking better and better....

Have you had your perscription checked recently?  :-) :-)

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 11 Aug 1997 18:30:20 +0200

>> Regarding Re: Pine JUNK; Edward M Greshko
>> <[email-masked]> adds: 
EMG> On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, auto-open-next-unread wrote:

>> Hey Man, we have been developing software for some 15 years.  NEVER
>> have I seen such sloppiness in work.  CTRL_C Dosen't work.  Nobody
>> checks these things?
[...]

EMG> You may have been developing software for "some" 15 years but you
EMG> seem unaware how to report problems with software.

He didn't say "I", he said "we". Therefore he could be a) inbreed
royalty, b) schizophrenic, c) a communist, or d) mentally
challenged. No, wait, c) and d) are synonyms. Well, whatever...

EMG> If someone were to report this as an error to SW you developed
EMG> without giving full information as to the platform and version
EMG> being used....what would your answer be?

Netscape. His answer would be Netscape, because "CTRL_C" works
beautifully in Netscape.

[...]

EMG> So, if you can calm down long enough to send folks a complete
EMG> description of your environment....someone may be able to
EMG> enlighten you.

Does hitting over the head with a burning Dos95-box count as
"enlightenment", too?

>> Ahhhhh netscape is looking better and better....
EMG> Have you had your perscription checked recently?  :-)

Yeah, right. Here's some stuff from the documentation, too:

Pico:
  Editing commands are entered using controlkey combinations.  As a
  work-around for communications programs that swallow certain control
  characters, you can emulate a control key by pressing ESCAPE twice,
  followed by the desired control character, e.g. "ESC ESC c" would be
  equivalent to entering a ctrl-c.

Unlike regular u*ix programs, pine cannot be killed by hitting C-c,
either. Maybe this is what gets our young friend so confused. However, 
this is mentioned in the FAQ, too.

Later,
Robin

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Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
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                                  ... so I got myself Linux.

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From: Edward M Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 06:48:43 +0800 (GMT)

> Does hitting over the head with a burning Dos95-box count as

Only if it is filled with magnesium.  :-)

Ed