Subject: Color in Future Versions of Pine?

From: Rocky Giannini <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:57:04 -0400 (EDT)

Hi,

Are there plans to implement color for xterms and VT-100 terminal emulators
in future versions of Pine?  For example, several UNIX news readers (slrn,
tin, etc.) display normal text in one color, quoted text in another, and 
signatures in another etc.

Thanks in advance!
-Rocky

--
Rocky Giannini
UMUC Unix and VMS Systems

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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:02:15 GMT

On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> NMG> Can you change the From header while in the midst of composing a
> NMG> message? 
> 
> Now, this is something worth discussion. Honestly, I love your filtering
> faq. To me, it was invaluable. However, I don't agree with forging headers
> the way you do (or is that really your FQDN?). Anyway, one should not mess
> with the header, should one?

I also do not believe in forging headers.  The From address I
posted that message with ([email-masked]) is completely
legit and if you send mail to it, I'll write you back.  And the
address I'm using in the From header in this message
([email-masked]) is also legit.  Given the insane amount of junk
email I get, I need to come up with a good solution for filtering
it.  Part of my solution involves using different email addresses
for public and private.  I need a mailer that will allow me to
easily change my From header between my public and private
addresses.

I hope this really is worth discussing...
Thanks,
Nancy

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 06:34:42 -0500

> signatures in another etc.
Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
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   Date: 
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 06:36:08 -0500

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:37:12 -0500

Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
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> "n"=<[email-masked]> wrote:
> n> On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
> n> I also do not believe in forging headers.
> [...]
> n> Given the insane amount of junk email I get, I need to come up with
> n> a good solution for filtering it.  Part of my solution involves
> n> using different email addresses for public and private.  I need a
> n> mailer that will allow me to easily change my From header between my
> n> public and private addresses.
> 
> I doubt the sense of it. IMVHO (and I'm not the one to tell *you*
> about filtering), NoCEM is the way to go, and for this, you need
> proper PGP-support which pine doesn't offer. Mutt and Gnus do, so
> that's why I said both are better mailers.
> I understand, why the pine developers aren't going to support PGP, but
> I still need it, so...
> 
> Sorry if there was any kind of misunderstanding about your account,
> btw.
> 
> Later,
> Robin
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> --
> Robin S. Socha, M.A.
> Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
> On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"
>                                   ... so I got myself Linux.
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 9 Jul 1997 08:19:39 +0200

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Later,
Robin

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Elkins)
Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:18:11 GMT

On 9 Jul 1997 11:18:30 GMT, Sven Guckes <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Does it support IMAP?
>Not yet.  Real soon now.

I haven't looked at PINE's IMAP support, but I suspect it is much more
functional that Mutt's first go is.  Right now there is only basic support
for reading mailboxes and things like searching the body of a message don't
work.

>> Is there a Win95 version of it?
>
>No.  However, Fefe once compiled it for DOS to be able to read mail folders
>with it.  I don't expect a real DOS post any time soon, but I fear that once
>Mutt-1.0 is released that DOS users will cry out for it.
>
>> Can you change the From header while in the midst of composing a message?
>
>Yes - with "header editing".  Just ":set edit_hdrs" before replying
>and the header will be part of the edit buffer for your editor.
>This allows to change the From: line, too.

You can also automatically set arbitrary header fields based on which
mailbox you are reading or who you are sending mail to.

>Btw:  Mutt also has support for MIME, PGP, and color.  :-)

Threading is also another popular feature.

me
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: 9 Jul 1997 12:32:11 +0200

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>> Regarding Re: mutt vs. pine (Was: Color in Future Versions of
>> Pine?); Bruce Toews <[email-masked]> adds: 

[...]
>> Anyway, one should not mess with the header, should one?
BT> You have made your position ***EXTREMELY*** clear on the subject. Is
BT> it time, perhaps, to move over and allow for those who might, heaven
BT> forbid, disagree?

Sure, Bruce. Just what /was/ your argument again?

Later,
Robin