Subject: Pine cannot read MIME error messages

From: Hynek Med <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:52:28 +0200

Hi,
this is about a third time I report this bug.. Noone seems to care. :-( 

As a listowner, I get lots of MIME error messages from the listserv, like
the one I inculde. The trouble is, that pine cannot display them, it says
just something like:

 PINE 3.96   MESSAGE TEXT                    <mail/[]> ll  Msg 1 of 1 ALL      

Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:56:45 +0200
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Error Condition Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

And that's all. There's probably some kind of bug in the multiple MIME
messages parsing.. When you export the message I have attached to a
folder, run a pine -f on it, you should get the effect I describe, though
the attachement is visible when just viewed. This happens to almost all
MIME error messages from the mailer daemon. (We use listproc 6.0c and
sendmail 8.8.5/IDA-1.6.)

Hynek

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From [email-masked] Wed May 14 19:57:09 1997
From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:56:45 +0200
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Originator: [email-masked]
Sender: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Error Condition Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
Status: RO

Rejected message: sent to [email-masked] by [email-masked] follows.
Reason for rejection: suspicious address.
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Content-Type: text/plain

This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

The following destination addresses were unknown (please check
the addresses and re-mail the message):

SMTP <[email-masked]>

Please reply to [email-masked]
if you feel this message to be in error.

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Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Disposition: attachment

Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:33:46 +0200
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Originator: [email-masked]
Sender: [email-masked]
From: Michael Polak <[email-masked]>
To: Multiple recipients of list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: svaty hnev a psychiatricka redukce (fwd)

On Mon, 12 May 1997, Hynek Med wrote:

> Grrr. Uff. Tak jsem si cetl neco o psycholingvistice a poznamce o vlivu
> dusevnich poruch na jazyk jsem nasel nasledujici poznamku ke schyze.
> 
> (Jiri Cerny, Dejiny Lingvistiky, s.374, Votobia 1996)
> 
> " Tak napriklad jeden lekar postizeny schizofrenii vytvoril celkem sestnact
> ruznych umelych jazyku, z nichz nektere mely az 10.000 slov, dobre
> propracovanou gramatiku a vlastni pismo. Jeho utek od skutecnosti byl tak
> dokonaly, ze dokonce vypracoval "mapy" oblasti, kde prislusne "narody" ziji, a
> popsal spolecenske struktury prislusnych "statu". "

No te buch. Posledni dobou me znepokojuje predstava, ze moje zaliba v 
uletech od reality by vlastne mohla byt lehka schizofrenie ... umele jazyky 
jsem sice nevytvarel, ale vlastni svety docela jo ;-)

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From: "Robert de Bath" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:52:44 +0100 (BST)

The mailbox you enclosed contained a broken MIME message. The Content-Type
header had a mime multipart/mixed identifier but didn't have the required
'boundry=' parameter. In addition the first part of the message (before the
first boundry line) is ignored by true MIME clients, this appears to be
useful text in this message so it's in the wrong place.

The problem isn't with Pine but is with the software that created the message.

Having said that, it would be nice if Pine could notice the fact it's
broken and do something (Like pretending it's not a MIME message)

::: Internet rule 2:  Paranoia Rules!

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Rob.                           (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday>)

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From: Hynek Med <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:37:04 +0200 (MET DST)

> The problem isn't with Pine but is with the software that created the message.

The trouble is, that many mailer daemons produce these - I guess a vast
majority of those that use MIME, at least from what I get.. :-(

> broken and do something (Like pretending it's not a MIME message)

They say elm/metamail display these messages with a warning. I would
really like to see pine doing the same thing..

Hynek

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From: "Robert de Bath" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 11:11:23 +0100 (BST)

> majority of those that use MIME, at least from what I get.. :-(
Hmmm, I haven't come across the problem myself, but until (if) they make
the change in Pine I expect your best bet would be to automatically
filter the error messages into a seperate mbox with procmail and have
formail delete the MIME-version header from these messages. I think you
might be able to just do the delete on the broken messages too with some
more fancy rules.

PROCMAIL Source: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/