Subject: Hello

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:34:36 -0800 (PST)

I was just wondering if I could look at old letters that I had
written to people.  I didn't know if they were kept anywhere and I was
wondering if you knew how I could get to them.

Thank you very much,
Lorrie Maxwell.

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From: Robin S Socha <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:49:14 +0200 (MET DST)

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 [email-masked] wrote:

Hi, Lorrie,

  >wondering if you knew how I could get to them.

Well, it depends... :-)

First, go to M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig) and check if you have this set:

	default-saved-msg-folder = 

Mine is ~/Mail/OLD/saved-messages, but yours might be something else...

Then check if this is set:

            [X]  save-will-not-delete
           
If so, your mail is still there. Goto the folder list, that's M(ain),
L(ist). There should be a file saved messages. Simply enter it and you're
there. Note: This is assuming that you're running a vanilla version of pine.
As I said, mine is set entirely differently, so if you can't find your mails
this way, come back later :-)

Cheers,
Robin

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:25:30 +0100 (BST)

[At great personal risk he dares to contradict Robin!]

Hi, Lorrie -

What Robin describes in his reply (included below) isn't, I think, what
you're actually looking for.

The "default-saved-msg-folder" he refers to is simply a folder that _you_
can save copies of messages you _receive_ into.  In particular when you
give the Save (S) command it is the folder offered to you by default to
save the message into.  (You can, of course, pick another one if you wish;
this is just the one offered as the default choice.)

In actual fact I think you were asking about referring back to copies of
messages you have written and _sent_ to others?  If so, then this is quite
a different thing...

Most mail programs don't keep a copy of messages sent out through them
unless specifically told to do so.  However the default for Pine _is_, if
memory serves, to keep a copy.  However it may be that the Systems Manager
of your computers has changed the default so copies are _not_ kept, in
order to conserve disk space.

Here's how to check...

*  Go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen by typing S then C at the Main
   Menu.

*  Look for a variable called "default-fcc".  If this is set to a folder
   name (typically "sent-mail" for UNIX versions of Pine, or "sentmail"
   for PC-Pine) then the chances are copies of your outgoing messages have
   been kept.

*  Leave the Setup Configuration screen by giving the Exit (E) command.

*  Now look at the Folder List screen (by giving the L command) and look
   for a folder with the name you saw against default-fcc.  Highlight the
   folder and open it by pressing Return.

"Fcc" stands for File Carbon Copy, and is used to File a (Carbon) Copy of
every message you send out.  (There are ways of overriding this folder,
but if you haven't been aware of it, you won't have done so.)

If you have the default-fcc variable set up then the first time you use
Pine each month it will offer to rename your current "sent-mail" folder
and start a new one.  The old one will be renamed to include the month and
year.  If you had any previous months' sent-mail folders around Pine will
offer to delete them in order to save disk space.

Cheers,

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Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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