Subject: How to attach a file from the floppy disk

From: Manuel Uy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:42:55 -0800 (PST)

How do you attach a file that is on a floppy disk?  When I specify
"A:syllabus" for the file to be attached, Pine considered A: as part of
the filename of a file in my home directory and failed to find it.

Manny

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From: Robin S Socha <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:53:46 +0100 (CET)

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  >the filename of a file in my home directory and failed to find it.

Good idea not to tell us what OS you're using, that *really* makes your
question a lot easier to answer.

Assuming you're using some flavour of u*ix, there is no "drive a:" or
similar nonsense. Try /dev/hd0 or copy the file to your home--dir first. If
for some reason you don't know how to do that, check if you have the mtools
installed on your system and try "mcopy a:*.* .".

Enjoy,
Robin

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From: Robin S Socha <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:17:23 +0100 (CET)

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  >the filename of a file in my home directory and failed to find it.

Sorry for the follow--up to my own message, but I took some time to delve
into the docs and found this:

   The file to be attached must be on the same system as Pine. If you use
   Pine on a Unix machine but have files on a PC or Macintosh, the files
   must be transferred to the Unix system running Pine before they can be
   attached to the message being composed. Please ask your local consultants
   about the correct way to transfer a file to your Pine system as the
   method will vary from site to site.

I don't really get this... What does "on the same system as Pine" mean? Same
file--system? I have several non--u*ix file systems mounted and can attach
files from the alright. Attaching files from a mounted floppy doesn't seem
to be a problem, either.

Or is this supposed to be a practical joke? ^T, /myhome/mydosbox/c:/files ?

TIA,
Robin

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From: Solstice <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:51:21 -0500 (EST)

> files from the alright. Attaching files from a mounted floppy doesn't seem

What he means is "on the same system" is that if you have to run PINE from
a unix machine while in your UNIX account, then you'll have to have the
files on the system.  If the file system is mounted and "visible" through
that system that PINE is currently running, then you can "technically"
attach those files.

But if you're running PINE say on a UNIX system and you're using a
terminal program to obtain access to your UNIX account/shell, then you'll
need to upload that file to your UNIX directory before you can attach it.
If the system can't see the "drive/file/directory" where your file is on,
then you'll have to move it to where it is visible by the file system
that's running PINE.

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From: Robin S Socha <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:14:23 +0100 (CET)

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  >>   >"A:syllabus" for the file to be attached, Pine considered A: as part
  >>   >of the filename of a file in my home directory and failed to find
  >>   >it.

[From the users guide:]
  >>    The file to be attached must be on the same system as Pine. If you
  >>    use Pine on a Unix machine but have files on a PC or Macintosh, the
  >>    files must be transferred to the Unix system running Pine before
  >>    they can be attached to the message being composed.

  >> I don't really get this... What does "on the same system as Pine" mean?
  >> Same file--system? I have several non--u*ix file systems mounted and
  >> can attach files from them alright. Attaching files from a mounted
  >> floppy doesn't seem to be a problem, either.
  >
  >What he means is "on the same system" is that if you have to run PINE
  >from a unix machine while in your UNIX account, then you'll have to have
  >the files on the system. If the file system is mounted and "visible"
  >through that system that PINE is currently running, then you can
  >"technically" attach those files.

That doesn't make sense to me... If I want to attach a file, it has to be
"on the system" independent of the OS I'm using. That's nothing to do with
u*ix or WinDos.

  >then you'll have to move it to where it is visible by the file system

Sure, but that doesn't have anything to do with the OS, either. Ok, if I
wanted to do that with a Win95 file, I'd have to glue a floppy to a brick
and throw it into the computer pool, but that doesn't count, does it?

What's more, there's always a chance of mounting my home system via NFS. I
don't get the "If you use Pine on a Unix machine but have files on a PC or
Macintosh"--part. As a regular user on, say, a university remote system, I
always have to ftp my files to that account, even with u*ix running at home.

Well, forget it... Noone's gonna read the user guide, anyway :-)

Have a nice weekend, yall!

Cheers,
Robin

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From: [email-masked] (Fred Goodwin)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:46:55 -0600

>I don't really get this... What does "on the same system as Pine" mean?

I'm no expert, but I use Pine, and I think this means you have to transfer
the file to your Internet Provider's host machine (i.e., the file and the
Pine program must be on the same machine).

Once its there, I suppose you can point Pine to it.

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From: Robin S Socha <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:29:34 +0100 (CET)

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On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Fred Goodwin wrote:

  >>   attached to the message being composed.
  >I'm no expert, but I use Pine, and I think this means you have to
  >transfer the file to your Internet Provider's host machine (i.e., the
  >file and the Pine program must be on the same machine). Once its there, I
  >suppose you can point Pine to it.

Wow, thanks, Fred... All those years of typing binary source off listings
... Gee you saved my life!!!

  >To reply to me, remove NOSPAM from the above address

Sure, especially helpful when writing to a mailing list. Children...

And could we drop this subject now, *please*?

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From: Matthew Schinckel <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:42:47 +930

> On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Fred Goodwin wrote:
[...]
> Sure, especially helpful when writing to a mailing list. Children...

Careful Robin, this 'list' is also present as comp.mail.pine on UseNet.

Matt.
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From: Peter Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:31:30 +0100

On 20 Mar 1997, Manuel Uy wrote:

> How do you attach a file that is on a floppy disk? 

I see that you are not running PC-Pine, so that's not that strange that
you get the error messages you're reporting. When running Pine under a
Unix system, there is no "A:" drive, there are no drives at all! There are
two ways to do this, depending on what your setup is:

	a) you have Unix on your computer, then see Robin's reply on
	   how to do it

	b) you're running Unix on another computer (via Telnet or equal),
	   then you need to send the file from your computer to the one
	   where you read mail, preferrably using a ftp program.

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