Subject: Undesirable network startup?

From: Steve Holmes <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:57:16 -0700 (MST)

When I use pine on my personal linux environment to send a message (even
to other users on my machine), Pine waits till my PPP session
automatically starts up and gets established before it passes it off to
sendmail which is running locally.  BTW, nothing gets sent over the link
till sendmail does its job a couple of seconds later as expected.  I have
smtp-server set to "" in my pine.conf file and I get the same results if i
leave it undefined, as it was by default.  At present, I am using the
default network time outvalue; I am wondering now what would happen if I
set it to five seconds, the minimum value.  Keep in mind, I am not using a
remote mail server to post outgoing mail.  I am using sendmail with a
complete set of rules for normal unix mail operation.  

My PPP session automatically starts up when the dynamic modules for TCP/IP
and PPP are accessed by any program; it is quite apparent that Pine is
engaging these modules prior to sendmail.  I would figure that sendmail
would do this on its own and pine shouldn't even concern itself with
establishment of a network connection at this point.  Further proof of
this is shown by the status line showing 0% and that sits there till the
connection is setup and my PPP session is completely started and then it
is immediately handed off to sendmail successfully.  Yes, my logs show
that sendmail handled the mail.

Does anyone have any ideas? Might I be missing something?

I could attach the config files for pine, but I'm not sure if that's such
a good idea on a list.  Let me know if anyone wants to see them, and I
will gladly send them individually.
I'm not currently subscribed to the list, so cc'ing to me would be
appreciated.  Thank you for the help,
<Steve> Holmes (local system administrator)

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From: [email-masked] (Orjan Johansen)
Date: 13 Mar 1997 00:40:40 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[email-masked]>,
Steve Holmes <[email-masked]> wrote:
>sendmail which is running locally.

Pine insists on connecting to a working mailbox before sending mail, 
as an anti-forgery feature.

I guess it will check the inbox listed in inbox-path, so maybe you 
could try to make sure that it is not a remote one, and put your 
remote one(s) as an extra incoming-folder.

Greetings,
Ørjan.