Subject: pine under a different login name

From: [email-masked] (Anthony E Potter)
Date: 4 Mar 1997 20:49:33 -0600

Hi.  I just checked the archive so hopefully my question isn't redundant.

I've lost access to my account here on campus, but my mail address still works. 
A friend of mine lets me use his account, but using Netscape mail is a real
hassle.  What I want to know is if there is a way to access my mailbox from his
account through pine without screwing up his pine access.

I've played around a bit with setup/config and a separate config-file with the
pine -P command, but with no success.

Any help would be appreciated.  Please CC responses to me as well as the
newsgroup.

GodfatherofSoul
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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:03:41 +0000 (GMT)

> Hi.  I just checked the archive so hopefully my question isn't redundant.

Well done for trying!  (It _is_ actually quite a frequently asked/answer 
question, however :-)

> I've lost access to my account here on campus, but my mail address still
> works. A friend of mine lets me use his account, but using Netscape mail
> is a real hassle.  What I want to know is if there is a way to access my
> mailbox from his account through pine without screwing up his pine
> access. 
> 
> I've played around a bit with setup/config and a separate config-file
> with the pine -P command, but with no success. 

You need to include a "/user=yourusername" switch within the IMAP
specification(s) you are using.  This changes an entry looking like:

	{monet.art.nowhere.edu}INBOX

to:

	{monet.art.nowhere.edu/user=yourusername}INBOX

You may like to consider setting up a "folder-collection" along these
lines to point to your non-INBOX folders, and an additional "incoming
folder" to include your INBOX.  See the Setup Configuration screen's
built-in help for each of the "folder-collections" and
"enable-incoming-folders" variables for more details.

Cheers,

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From: "Heinrich `Hank' Goetzger" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:25:00 -0800

>A friend of mine lets me use his account, but using Netscape mail is a real

I'd like to know how this is working. You lost your account, but you can
access to your incoming-mailbox from another account. That's very
interesting, so you could get access to every incoming-mailbox on this
cumputer?

Why do you lost your account? And why is your email-address still working?
I mean isn't this something, which is very close together? At least on the
mashines where 've been and I still am is the access to my inbox only
possible for me and the superuser and of course the mailer.

I'd like to know how this is working.

All the best

Heinrich

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From: Anthony E Potter <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:07:23 -0600 (CST)

> 	{monet.art.nowhere.edu/user=yourusername}INBOX

Okay, here's the pertinent section of our local .pinerc file with the 
changes I've used (to no avail).

########################### Essential Parameters ###########################

personal-name=GodfatherofSoul

user-domain=[email-masked]

smtp-server=(didn't put anything here, but ours is mailhost.ksu.edu or 
localhost).  Speaking of which, what is the difference?  Does local mean 
my friends account, or anywhere here on campus?

nntp-server=

# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox
# Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path={mailhost.ksu.edu/usr=yeager}INBOX

For all the collection files, I've used paths to a directory marvmail to 
separate my messages from my friends mail directory messages.

So, where is my error?

GodfatherofSoul
[email-masked]

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:03:30 +0000 (GMT)

> separate my messages from my friends mail directory messages.

The error seems to be either a mis-reading or a mis-typing...  I said that
the switch was
	"/user=yourusername"
whereas you seem to have entered
	"/usr=yourusername"

Cheers!

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From: Niall Kavanagh <[email-masked]>
Date: 5 Mar 1997 21:06:52 GMT

In comp.mail.pine Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]> wrote:

: You need to include a "/user=yourusername" switch within the IMAP
: specification(s) you are using.  This changes an entry looking like:

Do you know if there is a way of specifying the password also?

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From: [email-masked] (Orjan Johansen)
Date: 6 Mar 1997 17:32:36 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
>possible for me and the superuser and of course the mailer.

Some places shut down accounts by changing the login shell to 
something like "nologin" without changing anything else.  In other 
words, the password is still there.  Certain server programs, perhaps 
POP and IMAP servers, would not perform a real shell login for the 
user, just check the password, and so could still be used. Ftp too, 
maybe.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:19:13 +0000 (GMT)

If you are using PC-Pine then this has an option to remember your password
(in a file on disk) for use in the future.  You should only use this
option if access to your disk store is secure, as the stored password is
only lightly encrypted (if at all) if memory serves.

If you are using the UNIX version of Pine then there is no option to
remember your password.  Instead you must ask your Systems Administrator
if they have/are willing to set up a "pre-authenticated version of the
IMAP server software".  This is straightforward to do in most cases (the
creation of one symbolic link on the IMAP server machine, provided the
SysAdmin is happy that there are no security issues involved.

Cheers,