Subject: Re: pine 3.95 and qmail

From: David L Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:16:46 -0800

On 27 Feb 1997, Jim Littlefield wrote:

> >sendsig: can't grow stack, pid xxxxx, proc pine
> >Illegal instruction
> >
> >This does _not_ affect incoming mail, which is working properly.  Also,
> >Pine worked flawlessly when I was running sendmail thru v8.8.5

The above message is not actually coming from Pine.  Normally, Pine
invokes "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" and interactively negotiates
sending the mail via an SMTP exchange.  This allows Pine to negotiate
ESMTP options, such as 8BITMIME.  

It would appear that Qmail's sendmail emulator is unable to handle the
exchange with Pine and is crashing with a stack overflow. 

> 
> Read the FAQ which came with Qmail:
> 
>      6.2. How do I stop pine from crashing? When I ask any version of pine
>      past 3.91 to send mail, it crashes.
> 
>      Answer: Put
> 
>         sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi -t
> 
>      into /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. (This will work with sendmail too.)

This changes Pine's behavior to simply pass the message to the
specified command on stdin.  You lose all ESMTP capabilities in this
mode...

>      Beware that pine is neither secure nor reliable.

Does the Qmail FAQ or other documentation have any elaboration or
substantiation of this claim?

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Littlefield)
Date: 27 Feb 1997 18:38:13 GMT

On 27 Feb 97 11:05:02 EST, Justin M. Streiner <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I'm presently in the process of replacing this system's MTA with qmail.
>Qmail's built and installed - seems to be working properly.  However pine
>will not peacefully coexist with qmail.  Other MUAs or front-ends on this
>system work fine, however pine will exit with the following error when
>attempting to send mail:
>

     Answer: Put

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From: [email-masked] (Justin M. Streiner)
Date: 27 Feb 97 11:05:02 EST

System info:
OS: Ultrix v4.4 (MIPS)
Pine version: 3.95 (unpatched)
qmail version: 0.96
mailbox format: mbox

I didn't ramp up to maildir (qmail's preferred mailbox format) because
Pine doesn't yet support it.

Pine's config has been modified to support mbox by adding the following
line to pine.conf.fixed:

inbox-path=Mailbox

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
jms

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