Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0?

From: ADAM Sulmicki <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:20:53 -0500 (EST)

->> 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing.
->> 
->>     Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k
->> question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week.  Checking 20-30 mailboxes
->> each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious.  Wouldn't a simple
->> file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on
->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders?

Here is an solution for this problem. It assumes that your procmail 
has set VERBOSE=no. What is does it display a small window in right bottom
corner of your screen there the latest emails scrools (you can use the
scoll bar to see what came before)

I have this in my .xinitrc

/usr/local/bin/maillog +ls -title "Mail Log" -geometry
80x10-0-0 -e tail -f /home/adam/mail/incoming/procmail.log &

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and output looks something like this :

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:14:03 +0000 (GMT)

> ->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders?

An easier way of managing multiple incoming folders is to list them as
"incoming folders" ;-)

You can do this by setting the "enable-incoming-folders" option in Pine's
configuration screen.  You should also read its help entry whilst there to
see what it does.

After setting up your incoming folders you can just use the Tab key to
move between them.  Within a folder this searches for the next
"interesting" (unseen) message.  When there aren't any more in the current
folder Pine offers to check through your other incoming folders looking
for one with some recently arrived messages.

(Note: "recently arrived" isn't the same as "unseen".)

> However, the feature which I really miss is the 'threaded folder' ie that
> I can have all mail sorted by time it came by inbox, yet still have all
> followups to given subject under the first email w/ this subject.

The closest you can get (as you probably know?) is "Ordered Subject",
which sorts first by Subject text and then by Date.

Cheers,

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From: ADAM Sulmicki <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:02:47 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote:

->On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, ADAM Sulmicki wrote:
->
->> ->> 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing.
->> ->> 
->> ->>     Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k
->> ->> question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week.  Checking 20-30 mailboxes
->> ->> each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious.  Wouldn't a simple
->> ->> file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on
->> ->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders?
->
->An easier way of managing multiple incoming folders is to list them as
->"incoming folders" ;-)
->
->You can do this by setting the "enable-incoming-folders" option in Pine's
->configuration screen.  You should also read its help entry whilst there to
->see what it does.
->
->After setting up your incoming folders you can just use the Tab key to
->move between them.  Within a folder this searches for the next
->"interesting" (unseen) message.  When there aren't any more in the current
->folder Pine offers to check through your other incoming folders looking
->for one with some recently arrived messages.
->
->(Note: "recently arrived" isn't the same as "unseen".)

How I could use the multiple folders w/out setting it ??

Anways, yeah I know about it, but it does not change fact that it is
hardly useful when you have 15 or so incoming folders and each have few
thousands emails, and 500 or new emails is coming per day.

->> However, the feature which I really miss is the 'threaded folder' ie that
->> I can have all mail sorted by time it came by inbox, yet still have all
->> followups to given subject under the first email w/ this subject.
->
->The closest you can get (as you probably know?) is "Ordered Subject",
->which sorts first by Subject text and then by Date.

Yes, I know about it, but still it is little readable/helpful when there
is few thousands email in a folder.

-Adam

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From: ADAM Sulmicki <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:13:37 -0500 (EST)

Anyone out there using the feature : incoming-archive-folders ?
I have troubles getting it to work.

In my .pinerc I have defined an test folder as shown below

incoming-folders= "acme" ~/mail/incoming/acme-mail
.
enable-incoming-folders
.
incoming-archive-folders=~/mail/incoming/acme-mail ~/mail/archive/acme-mail

and the incoming-archive-folders as above. Yet when I move form one 
incoming folder to another it does not attempt to move the 
messages form the folder in incoming dir to the folder in 
archive dir.

Any ideas why? 

-Adam

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Salzmann)
Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:31:37 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
	[email-masked] (ADAM Sulmicki) writes:
> 
> By the way does anyone know any threaded mailer? If such exist I would
> like to give it a try... 
> 

Try mutt ("the mailer that sucks less" - M.E.)
http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/

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From: Andrej Borsenkow <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:17:20 +0300 (MSK)

> http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/

Mutt doesn't seem to support IMAP. Or does it?

thanks

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From: Ian Lumb <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:49:05 -0500

Is the ability to thread mail messages in Pine's future? This would be a
very nice feature :-) 

Ian.

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