Subject: Re: your mail

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:56:33 +0800 (CST)

Hello good people at Pine:

Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report.  What I wanted to know was, how 
can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into 
one message in order to forward them onward?

Yours, 
Don

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actual inbox=	/var/mail/tonikuo
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term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/pts/8, size=24x80, speed=normal
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======= User_val options set (/hinet/c5/tonikuo/.pinerc) =======
 last-time-prune-ques : 97.2
    last-version-used : 3.91
======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) =======
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========== Feature settings ==========
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:33:57 +0100 (CET)

>one message in order to forward them onward?

Two basic options I can think of:

On an advanced OS, you can cut and paste them into one message, which still
is a hassle, because you need to postpone the new message in order to c&p
the 2nd msg.

Or you could use an editor other than pine's pico, one that allows you to
cut&save text and then read it into another message. A good and *simple*
alternative (anyone following up this message saying vim / emacs / blablabla
rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor.

Since pico is nice for writing messages, but not very versatile when it
comes to editing and formatting texts, it might be a good idea to invoke
this editor implicitly. 

In Setup, Config, check:
            [ ]  enable-alternate-editor-cmd
            [ ]  enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
and then:                        
	editor                   = <your editor>

Save and enjoy.

Cheers,
Robin

P.S. Thanks a bunch for submitting your config. That was a nice touch.

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From: [email-masked] (Sven Guckes)
Date: 8 Feb 1997 18:35:34 GMT

> rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor.

You want a small editor?  Well, DOS-Pine users may try "terse"
(terse12.zip on Simtel mirrors).  Small enough for ya?

Sven

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:40:42 +0000 (GMT)

It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to
operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out;
save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc).

You do this by first making sure you have some additional commands
available to you...

1.	Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen.

2.	Look for the "enable-aggregate-command-set" variable, and make
	sure it is selected (has an "X" next to it).

3.	Exit the Setup Configuration screen, saving any changes you made.

Now go to the Index screen of the folder containing the messages you want
to select and work on.  Once there...

4.	Use the now-available Select (;) command to pick the messages you
	want to work on.  After typing the ";" command check the menu at
	the bottom of the screen for the various ways of picking
	messages.  If you just have a couple use "C" (or Return) to pick
	the current message.

5.	Selected messages are shown either in bold or with an "X" at the
	beginning of their line (depending on settings in your Setup
	Configuration screen).  Now you need to operate on your selected
	messages...

6.	Use the Apply (A) command to indicate you want to operate on all
	the selected messages (instead of just the current one).  Having
	given the Apply command check the command menu at the bottom of
	the screen to see what commands are available.

Cheers,

-- 
Mike Brudenell                                         <[email-masked]>
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:11:02 -0300 (GMT)

> save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc).

Thanks for this informative reply.  But, one thing I didn't get was how 
to save the messages seperately after they have been fowarded as one message.

Regards

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From: Mike Brudenell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:58:38 +0000 (GMT)

Whoa... are you trying to do two different things in one go?

If you want to include two or more messages in a reply/forwarded message
then the "Select messages, Apply a Reply or Forward" to them is just what
you want.

However replying/forwarding is simply you sending a message to someone; it
doesn't save anything anywhere (unless, of course, you have set Fcc: to
file a copy somewhere, in which case (as usual) an exact copy of the
message you sent gets stored).

If you want to save the messages (as separate items) to another folder
then you still use the "Select messages, Apply..." trick, but in this case
you Apply a "Save" (S) command to them.

Whilst Applying a Forward or Reply joins the selected message into one
(you can only be actively composing one message at a time, which is why
this happens) Applying a Save keeps the messages as separate items as they
are moved into the destination folder.

So to save messages to a different folder:

	; <criterion>		...Select the messages
	A S foldername		...Apply a Save command to put them into
				   a specified folder

Cheers,

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From: [email-masked] (Orjan Johansen)
Date: 25 Feb 1997 21:19:17 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Jeff Douglass <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>As a followup to this is there a way to do this operation after
>message composition has begun? For instance, say I am already
>creating a message and then I decide I want to include several
>other messages in the body of this new composition. Any ideas?

Well, to get it formatted as a multireply:

1) Postpone (^O)
2) Select the messages you want
3) Apply/Reply (AR)
4) Postpone
5) Go to postponed-msgs folder
6) Save combined message to a file
7) Continue composing original message, read in the others from file.

Easier solutions are available if you don't care about quote 
characters. (Essentially, skip 3-5.)

You can also use ^R^W to read a message (by number) from the current 
folder. If you don't remember the number you have to postpone anyhow.

Greetings,
Ørjan.