Subject: Re: PCPine: memory crashes and Postponed Folder

From: Barry Landy <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:25:59 +0000

On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Gregor J Jones wrote:

:>With PCPine I often have a memory problem, and PCPine crashes with the
:>message something like "Problem detected: Pine exiting". This gets worse
:>as messages get longer.

This is a well known "feature" of the DOS port of Pine.

:>
:>My proposed solution: regularly postpone messages, especially as they get
:>longer.
:>
:>But, I have just discovered that when PCPine crashes, it trashes my
:>Postponed Folder. The folder disappears! I can undelete it, but it then
:>contains 0 bytes.

This is not what happens. 
I assume that you are doing ^O to postpone, then C to carry on
composing? If so, then when it starts composing it deletes the copy in
the postponed folder.

:>
:>Does anybody have a better solution?

Use the OS/2 or Windows port.
If you cant do that, postpone (^O), move to the postpone folder, and
save (S) the postponed message to a different folder (or just a second
copy in the postponed folder). Then if Pine crashes this copy is left
untouched.

:>
:>PS: Would it be possible in future to compile PCPine so that it can use
:>extended or expanded memory. I have more than 3.5 Mb free memory on my PC
:>which PCPine doesn't appear to want to use.

Well, it does use it in some circumstances, I believe. In my view, the
DOS port(s) of Pine have become unusable, and U of W should either stop
making them, or make them work (by using extended memory).

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From: Gregor J Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:13:59 -0500

With PCPine I often have a memory problem, and PCPine crashes with the
message something like "Problem detected: Pine exiting". This gets worse
as messages get longer.

My proposed solution: regularly postpone messages, especially as they get
longer.

But, I have just discovered that when PCPine crashes, it trashes my
Postponed Folder. The folder disappears! I can undelete it, but it then
contains 0 bytes.

Does anybody have a better solution?

PS: Would it be possible in future to compile PCPine so that it can use
extended or expanded memory. I have more than 3.5 Mb free memory on my PC
which PCPine doesn't appear to want to use.

Yours

Gregor
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