Subject: regarding mailing a wordperfect document.

From: Kalpana Reddy Kothapally <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:21:00 -0500

hello,

I would like to know as to  how can I  mail a word perfect document using
pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than
wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive
it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do
not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special
symbols I use for the document).

Thanks.
..Kalpana

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From: Robert J Wilshe <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:57:13 -0600 (CST)

Kalpana:

Simple enough.  Just FTP the file into your home directory, which can be
viewed at any UNIX prompt by typing "cd ~/" then "pwd".  Once the file is
there, you can attach it when you are composing your letter.  When your
cursor is on the "Attchmnt:" field press cntl-T and this will take you to
your files in your home directory.  Select the file you want to send, and
you're set.  Make sure though that your recipient can process mime-encoded
mail, which is how pine will send it.

(Robin, if you're there, help us out with UNIX ftp.  I use a Win95 client,
and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands.  :)

Good luck and best regards,

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:17:02 +0100 (MET)

>and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands.  :)

Me? Sure:-)
But why use ftp? Just send the file from home, using the method Robert
described...

Otherwise, open the ftp-client by typing ftp. You should be in your home dir.
If not, got there, typing cd.
Type put <local_path>:/<filename.extension>

ftp will copy the file to your university. There, use pine's attachment.

But maybe a word should be lost on the attachment as such. 
Kalpana, attaching a file means that it stays a binary file, but is encoded by
a tool on your system so that it can be sent by email. The addressee needs the
counterpart of that tool to decode your message and then he has the same file
again.

Hope that helps any;-)

Cheers,
Robin

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From: Sankar Mukhopadhyay <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:02:58 -0500

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Sankar Mukhopadhyay                            
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<<< The reverse side has also a reverse side.>>> Japanese Proverb

> mail, which is how pine will send it.

Hi, so far no problem. But when the recipient gets it what does she/he do?
It usually asks the attachment to be saved. When I save it and ftp to my
pc, try to open up with WordPerfect, it still shows garbage. 

Any help is appreciated.

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:19:52 +0100 (MET)

>On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote:
[snipped ftp stuff]

>pc, try to open up with WordPerfect, it still shows garbage.

Errr... what?!? Ok, now here's what happens: 
1. You create a file. 
2. You ftp the file to where your mail account is. 
3. You attach it to a pine mail.

No problem so far.

4. A third party gets your mail. "it" "usually" asks the attachment to be
   saved. I presume "it" is the other party's email program. 

Fine... 

5. You (?) ftp the file back home and open it. The _same_ file? You sure? What
   kind of "garbage"?

What _might_ have happened is that the WP file (let's call it the binary,
because that's what it is) did not get mime- or uudecoded. Or if it did, that
you did not decode it. Now it seems that you've opened a binary - or that
somewhere on the way some kind of unix2dos or dos2unix has eaten your file
(not possible, but I like the idea...). Why don't you send me the file and
I'll see what I can do.

Another possible explation is that you've opened a file in another format
(i.e. not WP). Maybe you could give us some clearer hints as to what OSs
you're using at home, at the university, what the third party is using as its
mailing program etc. That _really_ might help.

>> and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands.  :)

[I left that in for vanity's sake >;-> I sometimes do that at 2:30 in the
morning after Win95 has crashed for the 9. time in 6 hours...]

Cheers,
Robin

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From: Gregor J Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:35:20 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

 | On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Sankar Mukhopadhyay wrote:
 | >> On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote:
 | >> > I would like to know as to  how can I  mail a word perfect document

 | >On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote:

 | 2. You ftp the file to where your mail account is. 

... just my tuppenceworth here: make sure that the file is being ftp'd in
binary mode! Usually, by default ftp is in ASCII mode. Unless you change
it to binary, it will mangle a Wordperfect file. Type 'help' or 'status'
at the ftp prompt to find out. 

Gregor
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:42:49 +0100 (MET)

>... just my tuppenceworth here: make sure that the file is being ftp'd in
	     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>at the ftp prompt to find out.

Speaking of which... make sure your ftp is intelligent enough to run auto >;->

Cheers,
Robin