Subject: Cruise mode?

From: Randall Watson <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:00:44 -0600

I have scoured every FAQ, site, help screen, and WWW site I can find, but
I still know nothing about cruise mode except how to turn it on. 

So, my question is, "What can cruise mode do for me?"

Thanks.

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:39:05 +0100 (CET)

>So, my question is, "What can cruise mode do for me?"

Unfortunately, it cannot force you to read the help inside pine >;->

        FEATURE: enable-cruise-mode
        
This feature affects Pine's behavior when you hit the "Space Bar" at the end
of a displayed message. Typically, Pine complains that the end of the text
has already been reached. Setting this feature causes such keystrokes to be
interpreted as if the "Tab" key had been hit, thus taking you to the next
"interesting" message, or scanning ahead to the next incoming folder with
"interesting" messages.
	
	FEATURE: enable-cruise-mode-delete

This feature modifies the behavior of Pine's "enable-cruise-mode" feature.
Setting this feature causes pine to implicitly delete read messages when it
moves on to display the next "Interesting" message.

Enjoy! *grin*

Cheers,
Robin

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From: [email-masked] (Sven Guckes)
Date: 26 Jan 1997 22:55:40 GMT

[email-masked] whines:
> I use pine because I am on a freenet, and the system they use is a lynx
> browser with TIN newsreader and PINE email.  We have a guide to freenet
> manual, which tell you how to access PINE, how to read and post, and reply
> and forward, BUT, about 99% of the features of PINE are not documented.
> There is NO on-line help, NO manual [...] and no way except a usegroup like
> this to find out information.  Do not assume that because a person USES
> Pine, that he has access to the PINE manual.

Do not assume that comp.mail.pine is an interactive manual.
I would not mind people asking where they get the manual from
or where to get the FAQ - but asking questions without having had
a glimpse at either the manual or the FAQ is inappropriate.

Moreover, as you have lynx, you can use a search engine
for the manual and even download it.  Is that so hard?

Take Altavista, for example:
Enter "title:pine & title:manual" and you will get a dozen hits, eg:

http://www.gmi.edu/official/acad/comp_ctr/pine_doc.html
http://www.iit.edu/acc/manual/pine.html
http://www.sp.utoledo.edu/pine.html
http://cavern.uark.edu/~rholder/pine_html/pineman1.html
http://www.uca.es/servicios/correo/pine/

At this I must admit, though, that these are not quite up-to-date.
But I am sure you will find Pine's home page at

	http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/

> I work on the help desk, and we are told when a person asks a question
> that is covered in our user guide, NOT to say read page ## of your user
> guide, because they may NOT HAVE the user guide, and we have to go on the
> assumption that they do not have access to the information, not that they
> are too lazy to look it up.  That MAY be the case, but it is NOT a chance
> we are willing to take.

You work at the help desk of that ISP?  Well, then you deserve it!  ;-)

Sven

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:56:51 +0100 (CET)

>[email-masked] whines:
[snip]
  >a glimpse at either the manual or the FAQ is inappropriate.
True.
       Pine Information Center:  http://www.washington.edu/pine
       Source distribution:
       ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
       Pine Technical Notes, included in the source distribution.
       
What more do you need? Besides, pine _does_ have an online-help in Setup
Config and it _does_ have a man page.

  >for the manual and even download it.  Is that so hard?

Good point.

[snip]  
  >> are too lazy to look it up.  That MAY be the case, but it is NOT a chance

Faulty logic, I'd say - how can they tell you not to refer to a user guide
you said you didn't have?  I must admit I really don't like your attitude.

Just my $.02.

Cheers,
Robin