Subject: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification)

From: [email-masked] (Randall C. Nortman)
Date: 11 Dec 1996 19:00:00 GMT

Is there a way to get Pine (I'm using 3.95) to use DSN (Delivery
Status Notification) if the MTA supports it?

FYI: DSN provides a way for the sender of a message to be notified
upon successful, failed, and/or delayed delivery of the message.  Note
that this is for delivery (the message was placed in the users mail
spool), not receipt (the user's MUA received the message).

It's part of RFC 1891 (Jan 1996), "SMTP Service Extension for Delivery
Status Notifications."  Related RFC's are 1892 and 1894.  It replaces
the Return-Receipt-To header, which was never standard AFAIK.

TIA

-- 
Randall Nortman

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From: Mark Crispin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:06:01 -0800

> Status Notification) if the MTA supports it?

I expect that Pine 4.00 will support DSN.

I just wrote the c-client support for it earlier this week, and I believe
that my colleagues are working on the user interface portion.

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From: [email-masked] (Randall C. Nortman)
Date: 12 Dec 1996 05:45:33 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Mark Crispin wrote:
[...]
>I expect that Pine 4.00 will support DSN.
[...]

No rush, of course, but when will 4.00 be out?  (Just curiosity; I
understand that things like this generally "take as long as they
take")

(Nice work with Pine in general, BTW.  Great work, actually.)

TIA

-- 
Randall Nortman

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From: William C Bonner <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:19:31 -0600

> the Return-Receipt-To header, which was never standard AFAIK.

I've got the following two lines in my .pinerc file.  If I send to
someone who is getting mail on a sendmail 6.x setup, I get delivery
notices.  If I send to someone who is behind a ccMail gateway, I get
actial read receipts.  

customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: William C Bonner <[email-masked]>,
        Bcc: William C Bonner <[email-masked]>

The Bcc: is just so that I get more than the Fcc default.

I can't remember a location to lookup RFCs right now, so I am not
positive I'm answering the correct question.

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From: Rasheed Baqai <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:36:34 -0800

> customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: William C Bonner <[email-masked]>,

How often does this actually work?

Rasheed

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From: William C Bonner <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:36:31 -0600

> How often does this actually work?

These days, with sendmail 8.7 and above in use in more and more places,
the only places I really get return receipts from are places that use
Microsoft Exchange for mail.  I've not taken the header out, just
because it doesn't seem to hurt.