Subject: PC-Pine Problems

From: Sean Innes <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:01:10 -1000 (GMT-10:00)

Hello,

I currently have a unix account at my university where I use pine to read 
and send mail all the time as I'm doing now. I can also do this by 
connecting via PPP and then telneting into my Unix accoutn and running 
pine from there as I'm also doing now. However recently I tried to 
install Pc-Pine but I seem to be having trouble. It seems that I can not 
access my smtp-server as the smtp-server is not the same server as my shell
account. Because of this I think the smtp server is only accessible from 
the unix box where my shell account is located.

Is it possible that my university has made the smtp server not accessible 
unless you are connected to the unix box where my shell account is 
located and therefore I can not use Pc-Pine because of this reason or is 
there another problem which currently exists. This theory I would tend to 
believe as when I use pine normally on unix I first log in to my unix 
account which is known as sand and then after I type pine to access my 
Email I have to re-enter my account name and password on a server known as 
surf before I can access my Inbox to read any mail.

If anybody out there has any suggestions or any useful tricks to possibly 
work around this problem then please give me feedback.

Thanks...
Sean Innes

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Sean Innes,                                               Bond University
[email-masked]                                 Gold Coast, Qld
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From: "Robert J. Wilshe" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:59:21 -0600

Sean:

This is quite possible.  I attend DePaul University in Chicago, where
students like me can access their Pine email on our unix hosts through the
following ways:

1)  In a academic computing lab (intranet) using Telnet
2)  By dialing up (normal communications software, not PPP) to the host,
which emulates a Unix terminal session
3)  By telnetting into the host where my mail account is, using any PPP
connection, and then emulating a Unix session

I cannot, however, use any POP3 or IMAP compatible client software (like
Eudora or the like) on my *PC* to access my mailbox, even though I may be
using PC-Pine.  (Believe me, I tried!)  If I wanted to do such, I need to
subscribe to the University's ISP (for a fee), and then they grant
permissions to the POP3 server to access my mailbox.  Upon paying this fee
and joining their ISP, I can still use a telnet Unix session (locally,
their ISP, or another ISP), *or* use a POP3 client to manage and send mail
from whatever PPP connection I like.

Now, don't get me wrong...  I use pine and my PC mail client
interchangeably (although I have an affection for Pine  :)  But, there are
obvious motivations for using your PC at home to send and receive mail, and
I wanted to be able to do such.  So, I have an ISP with a fully accessible
Unix email account (using telnet, pine, pop3, ... whatever).  But, my mail
from the University is automatically forwarded to the account I'm using
right now.  This way, I get my university mail, and any other mail in one
place.  One drawback:  I can't send email from my university account from
my PC POP3 mailer...  just read it.

It's a roundabout way, but it works.  Ask you sysadmin if this is the case.
 Best case, there might be some local issue on your servers that needs
correcting, or you might need special instructions.  He or she would be the
best person to ask.  Hope this helps.

Happy New Year!!!

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Robert J. Wilshe
Chicago, Illinois

Mail : [email-masked]
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> From: Sean Innes <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: PC-Pine Problems
> Date: Wednesday, January 01, 1997 2:01 PM
> 
> Hello,
>