Subject: [BUG]=?ISO-8859-1?B??????

From: Qin An <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:58:06 +0800

Hi,

When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles
to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE
insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and
turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to
disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of
stuff.

Thank you in advance.

Qin.
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From: "Vladimir A. Pertsel" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:11:20 +0200

|> Qin An ([email-masked]) wrote:
|> : When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles
|> : to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE
|> : insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and
|> : turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to
|> : disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of
|> : stuff.

It is a typical problem for the Russians. They have a patch at

ftp://ftp.kiae.su/unix/mail/pine3.95-rus-2b.diff.gz

Those patches enable an option not to encode the 8bit header and 
an option not to encode the 8bit body

The patched binary for x86 sun-solaris2.5 may be found at
ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/i386-sun-solaris2.5/pine3.95-koi-i386-sun-solaris25.tar.gz

There was also a discussion (in Russian) on the matter in the group
news://relcom.fido.ru.unix under the thread name 
"pine, that dog, doesn't want to send Russian letters"

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From: [email-masked] (Kaj Haggman)
Date: 9 Dec 1996 09:37:56 GMT

Qin An ([email-masked]) wrote:
: When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles
: to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE
: insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and
: turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to
: disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of
: stuff.

Well, I have to admit I haven't read the nntp and related RFC's
for a while, but regarding the use of mime and smtp, the "subject"
field is not encoded, and thus not allowed to be anything else
that 7bit. So this (the subject line in this thread) is the right 
way to express it.

That is also why the posting was US-ASCII, since the message 
body was not 8bit (this was commented by someone else).  

Um, hope I didn't miss the whole point here, just reading very
quickly through the messages...

Cheers,
HeGe
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From: [email-masked] (Vladimir A. Pertsel)
Date: 10 Dec 1996 07:14:27 GMT

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From: Fyodor Yarochkin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:26:20 +0600 (GMT+0500)

> "pine, that dog, doesn't want to send Russian letters"
 yeah..:) That' was a big surprise for me..:) it doesn't want to 
 put russian subject and whatever..:) 

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