Subject: When All Else Fails

From: Bruce Toews <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:03:40 -0600 ()

Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the
Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond?
thanks.

Bruce

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From: Herb Townsend <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:45:46 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote:

:)---->Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the
:)---->Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond?
:)---->thanks.
:)---->
:)---->Bruce
:)---->
:)---->
There's always your local system admin, although they might not really be
able to help.  Then there's tons of docs available if you want to sift
through them.  If you have web access, try

http://www.washington.edu/pine/

or if you want to ftp...

ftp.cac.washington.edu

good luck

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:37:14 +0100 (MET)

>Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond?

Maybe if you gave a little more detailled description of the problem, someone
might be able to help you;-)

Beside that, there are really good manuals available from pine's ftp-server
and on the net, too. Cf, e.g.:

http://worf.ubalt.edu/~abento/pinemail/pcpinefaq.html or
http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/pine-faq/.

Dunno if that's any help, though.

Cheers and happy holidays.
Robin

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From: Bruce Toews <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:50:20 -0600 (CST)

> Dunno if that's any help, though.

Okay, I'll try one more time to be as detailed as is humanly possible. Our
System Administrator can't help me either, and the answer is not available
in any of the documentation, which I checked before asking my question in
the first place.

I am using my Internet provider's shell service. It runs on Red Hat Linux
version 4, with a kernal of 2.1.18. The version of Unix pine is 3.95.

The problem is that, intermitently, and usually, Pine puts a control-A
into the Date: field instead of the CST, which should be in parentheses to
denote my time zone. If you look at the top of this message, you will
probably see this. The TZ environment variable is correctly set, the date
command in Unix returns the correct date, sendmail is, to my knowledge,
correctly configured. There's nothing more I can offer about this problem,
but it's driving me and other who are affected by my postings crazy. If
anyone can either help or direct me to someone who can, I'd be most
grateful.

Bruce

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:29:13 +0100 (MET)

[snip]

>denote my time zone. 

I know that sounds slightly ridiculous, but have you tried using smail instead
of sendmail? I was told that the problem also uccured at our university.
They've successfully switched to smail.

Hope that's any help.

Cheers,
Robin

	       			      ...  so I got myself Linux.

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From: Bruce Toews <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:40:01 -0600 (CST)

Great. Now we're getting somewhere. How can I get it to use smail? Or does
my system administrator have to do that?

Bruce

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From: Ed Greshko <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:22:00 +0800 (GMT)

> my system administrator have to do that?

	Setting up and running smail on a system is the sysadmin's job.

	However, one thing you can try doing to see if your problem
is really a local MTA problem or another problem related to pine is to
go to setup/config and change the value of:

smtp-server              =

	to the hostname of a machine close to you.  I mean you could
set it to "mit.edu" but then pine would have to talk to that machine and
it would slow things down a bit.

	Ed

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From: Bruce Toews <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:22:57 -0600 (CST)

ATM0
> it would slow things down a bit.

I did as you suggested. The test mail that I have sent since all checks
out properly with the CST in parentheses as it should be. I did, in fact,
use mit.edu.

Bruce